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Kakami has a creepy smile...

Jesss June 1, 2016 4:53 am

am i the only one that thinks so? plus, it bugs me that he was so cowardly the first time and had to use an aphrodisiac. made me wonder if he had what it took to attract him without doing something like that.

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    C Me June 6, 2016 7:05 am
    blackdia July 25, 2016 2:00 pm

    uhm, I don't know. If you read the entire story and try to think a little about it (like we all did like a bunch of maniacs…) you'll probably change your mind. I'm not trying to tell you what's "true", because every reader find their own meaning to the story, but I think that Shingo actually falls at first sight. He just can't admit it, because Keiichi, in the beginning, represents everything he's afraid of, like in the page C ME linked. Kei is too brightening for Shingo, who's afraid of that kind of allure for some reason... I'm not going any further in case you haven't gone yet through the entire story, I don't want to spoil it for you. Yes, Kei was a bastard at the beginning, but the thing is…by mere coincidence (a guy making another guy drunk in order to have sex) …they found real love, the kind of love everyone dreams about. The real drama about Sakyo Aya is that she seems to be unable to develop all the potential in her own plots. She could reveal so much about the "real" Keiiichi, why such a famous and beautiful man acts like that… but she never did (until now). Just, please, remember Keiichi is not in love in the beginning, that's way he acts that way, he just wants to play but Shingo steals his heart. And then, the real trouble starts...

    Jesss July 26, 2016 1:16 am
    uhm, I don't know. If you read the entire story and try to think a little about it (like we all did like a bunch of maniacs…) you'll probably change your mind. I'm not trying to tell you what's "true", becaus... blackdia

    yep, im up to date. still stand by my comment. i cant really have any admiration for a seme that has to rape the uke for the first time. shingo may have fallen for him, it doesnt change the fact that he was forced the first time. not sure why the author did that. regardless, love is different for everyone and they are happy together now,.

    C Me July 26, 2016 3:10 am
    yep, im up to date. still stand by my comment. i cant really have any admiration for a seme that has to rape the uke for the first time. shingo may have fallen for him, it doesnt change the fact that he was for... Jesss

    Shingo was a free spirit who enjoyed going out and walking out in the city. I don't think he was at all attracted to Keichi or that it was love at first sight. It may have been love at first sight for Keichi and I guess he was used to getting what he wanted at whatever cost and when he saw that Shingo was not interested he then decided to drug and rape him. Shingo was not a willing participant for that first encounter at all. Yes I am also glad that they ended up happy now, but the road to that was not a nice journey for Shingo at all.

    blackdia July 26, 2016 10:34 pm

    I never really had the impression it was a rape, but, instead, a more subtle matter of self-discovering. Shingo does not want to admit he liked it, but he enormously did, that's why I accept a second then a third round. It's his first passive role, so it's almost a shock to him to discover the idea of himself he held dear to that moment was not the definitive one. Fist pages might give the impression of a rape, yes, but the entire story seems to suggest Shingo wasn't that happy, in the end, to wander off with no goal in life. He wasn't ready to admit his own desire for love and tenderness - that's why he falls for someone so possessive if not abusive toward him. This does not "justify" Keeichi's behavior, that I always wished was going to be enlightened a little bit by the author. She never did, so we can only go with the most banal interpretation, a rich prince with no limits. Shingo is not a stupid or a crybaby, so I've always been uncomfortable with the idea of him falling in love with someone bad. He felt in love, in my opinion, because what happened between them wasn't bad at all, to him.

    C Me July 27, 2016 12:21 am

    Rape is a type of sexual assault usually involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration perpetrated against a person without that person's consent. The act may be carried out by physical force, coercion, abuse of authority or against a person who is incapable of giving valid consent, such as one who is unconscious, incapacitated, has an intellectual disability or below the legal age of consent. The term rape is sometimes used interchangeably with the term sexual assault. Regardless of what happened after, the first time was without any doubt rape.

    blackdia July 27, 2016 1:13 am

    Yeah, thanks for the legal advice. What I meant is that Shingo was consensual, even though he didn't want to admit it to himself the day after because it broke his own idea of masculinity. You are all so obsessed with rape that I don't get why you read a genre based on rape. I don't like rape-based story at all, but this one is not, in my personal opinion, one of those stories to begin with. This forum recently went so mad on the rape-issue that it has become pretty hard to change perspective into deciphering a story. If you are making love with someone that clearly likes it, you tend to think that the person is involved, not that you're raping them. Shingo was not drugged, he was drunk but not to the point he was powerless, his being unable to reject Keiichi depended on the simple fact that whereas his previous sexual habit prevented him from that kind of sex, his body accepted it with great pleasure. In this story, not in the general issue about rape, if Keiichi hadn't seduced him Shingo would have actually lost the possibility to explore real pleasure and even happiness. Keiichi is not my idea of "man of my dreams", being extremely possessive and egoist - but not cruel to Shingo, he adores him and proves it continuously. We see the story from Shingo's perspective, that's why everyone sympathize with him. But I wouldn't like to be in Keiichi's shoes. Shingo treats him in a very confusing way for the most part of the time and Kei's not reading a description of his lover's thoughts as we are doing. So it's not all fun for him either, like on the other hand it happens in real life: two people involved in a story share good and bad things. One thing is forcing someone into things, but Shingo is pretty free and he can't live without Keiichi, so, sorry, but I don't buy the version of him as the poor victim. The only thing that got sacrificed was a stereotyped idea of himself. But he seems pretty happy after he changed his mind.

    C Me July 27, 2016 2:39 am

    You're welcome.

    Jesss July 27, 2016 3:14 am
    I never really had the impression it was a rape, but, instead, a more subtle matter of self-discovering. Shingo does not want to admit he liked it, but he enormously did, that's why I accept a second then a thi... blackdia

    "Shingo does not want to admit he liked it, but he enormously did, "
    you can enjoy being raped. he woke up with some mans penis inside him. it was rape, theres no other way to explain it. even if all the other times were consensual, the first time was not. in real life, he would either be a person really into the rape fantasy, or someone mentally unwell. there are people who are raped and stay with that person because their self esteem is gone. the only reason he went along with this and they are happy, is because its a manga. lol simple as that.

    C Me July 27, 2016 4:01 am
    "Shingo does not want to admit he liked it, but he enormously did, "you can enjoy being raped. he woke up with some mans penis inside him. it was rape, theres no other way to explain it. even if all the other t... Jesss

    (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ ding, ding, ding. Yaoi manga got to love it, brings out the best in all of us.

    Jesss July 27, 2016 4:16 am
    (๑•ㅂ•)و✧ ding, ding, ding. Yaoi manga got to love it, brings out the best in all of us. C Me

    i know lol i love yaoi, but ive read some crazy stories. although i hate spoilers i try to look at tags and comments before reading anything anymore.

    C Me July 27, 2016 4:42 am
    i know lol i love yaoi, but ive read some crazy stories. although i hate spoilers i try to look at tags and comments before reading anything anymore. Jesss

    Me too, just can't help it anymore. I go and read the comments and then I'm like "okay let's see how I see this one." xD

    Jesss July 27, 2016 5:26 am
    Me too, just can't help it anymore. I go and read the comments and then I'm like "okay let's see how I see this one." xD C Me

    thats exactly what i do too XD