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The Trouble with Trolls.

I Thot You Was a Toad June 28, 2017 6:00 pm

Here are all the reasons why, if you have something worthwhile to contribute to a discussion, you need to create and sign in to an account in order to put a consistent identity behind your words.

Long-term members, here, are relatively known quantities. People get a sense of who they are dealing with. We get to know what to expect from certain names-and-icons. We get to know who shows humour, intelligence, compassion and understanding, who makes spelling mistakes, has writing tics, what some of their tastes are in manga. A sense develops of ages, cultural backgrounds, education, careers, family, past tragedies and mistakes, the things that make them happy, who’s sweet, fierce, subtle, passionate, friendly, lusty, hilarious, has a strong sense of fairness. We know who has a temper and who has a big ego *raises hand*. We know who steals lists and copies reviews. We know who uses bots. It all shows up over time.

Whereas, you … who are you? Seriously. WhoTF are you? Because, as long as you’re anon, you’re the same person as Llort and Hoera-the-Sexplorer and all those assholes who post fake news and revenge porn, sell rohypnol and elephant tranquilizers online, bully teenagers into suicide, and organize crime and terrorism. As somebody pointed out to me yesterday, anonymous chooses to ellide his/her identity into a monolith of all anons, a Leviathan, which means the best anon is only ever as good as the worst anon, and nothing can be done to elevate the worst anon, because the worst anon is only around for the Lulz or worse.

“Judge me only on what I say!” Anon cries. Me, I, only I, I am. Except, that requires individuality, and anon has already eschewed that. The soul is missing. The fate of his or her contribution to the discussion is undermined by every other anon in that monolith, including those who are demonstrably mentally ill, violent, septic with hatred and bigotry, whiny about privilege, butthurt and with a big ax to grind from being exposed as a dickhead, or just eaten alive by envy, pride and malice.

This is because anonymous indicates something to hide, and people here have seen it all: sock puppet theatre, upvote rigging, baiting people into religious/anti-religious intolerance, suppressing dissent, threats of doxxing. It doesn’t matter if anon has clever words or things of value to share. Anon hides from light and exposure, so all worth is lost.

“Everybody on this site is Anon.” Anon blusters. Yes, but no. After time, we get to know each other and get a sense of what to expect. We notice who just signed up, who hasn’t read any manga, who only ever posts during peak troll. Whereas you …

Even if you know your views are unpopular and will probably set off a shitstorm, sign up and sign in before you post them. Otherwise, you’re just ….

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    tokidoki June 28, 2017 11:07 pm
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    Wacky weather in Canada - coldest day was -81C to 45C (that's -114F to 113F) I have only ever experienced -40C to 36C though. Got frostbite a few times, not nice.

    I Thot You Was a Toad June 29, 2017 1:41 am
    Because some people are under the impression that you can get away with it. Also anonimity gives them a freedom without exposing their real identity. Trolls are generally insecure and socially awkward individua... dragonlady

    Yeah, mostly. Mostly a few brats, a couple of frat house-style idiots. I've been warned about some who are more sinister. Actually, we all have. VPNs or Tor are highly recommended unless you share a computer network with thousands.

    I've seen one who showed definite signs of a borderline personality disorder with psychotic moments, possibly schizophrenia. Narcissism. And I've noticed a couple of people who show signs of PTSDs, whose sense of self has been wiped out by violence and tragedy, but for the most part, these ones leave people alone unless they feel threatened. One of these people freely admitted to her PTSDs in one of those sharing threads ... which made me worry about her safety. I got that she's a strong person, but that's a helluva lot of information to put out into the ether about your mental stablity. Again, people really need to watch what they share.

    I Thot You Was a Toad June 29, 2017 2:28 am
    EXACTLY. I had the same sentiment. yeah. i remember that anon thread ranting about those and i hate being angry but i just exploded that time after weeks of silently enduring the troll invasion of the main boar... takame

    Give a person enough rope ... it's weird how it happens, but sock puppets usually out themselves, whether they have an account or not. That's just another reason why, if you have something to say, put a name and face to it. Because there's no reason not to.

    It's true that a person who is signed in can just as easily manipulate sock puppet troll accounts and anon troll comments as any anon, but there are that many more steps involved and it serves as a sober second thought. Identity is more than an account.

    Botssssssss..... obviously, the spam-bots that show up from time to time. And now we have them to thank for Captcha.

    One person floated the idea past me of bots rigging the up-votes, especially for people who achieve greater numbers of approval ratings on their manga reviews than actual people who appear to have read the manga (or rated it, at least.) That may be a bit of a stretch, but it sure involves a lot of sock puppets. I think it's kind of hilarious. Can you imagine having to sign out and in that many times?

    I Thot You Was a Toad June 29, 2017 2:50 am
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    Well, *ahem* *blushes*, I do get triggered a lot, and I'm not shy about letting it out. I react, emotionally ... but, also, rationally. That's another reason why there is no point to trying to pretend to be an anon. Whatever for? Who wants everybody to agree with them all the time? So what if some people are offended? People can't even agree on what kind of manga is fluffy. (Apparently. I mean, some folks think Finder is cute. Wut?) So set your thoughts apart from the bottom-feeders and cultivate an identity. Unless you actually ARE a bottom-feeder, in which case, thank you for making that so clear by staying anon.

    I Thot You Was a Toad June 29, 2017 2:51 am
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    *shifty eyes*

    I Thot You Was a Toad June 29, 2017 4:27 am
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    Oop, the last part of that comment was directed to universal you, not personal you.

    KyoZaNa✿ June 29, 2017 6:19 am

    Refer to the obscene spam mails incidents from various accounts & lot of downvotes on the topic telling how to delete trolling / threatening / insulting topics..
    Those various kinds of troll have already created many a/c.

    KyoZaNa✿ June 29, 2017 6:24 am

    And it's worse that they create a/c just to troll.

    dragonlady June 29, 2017 8:04 am
    Yeah, mostly. Mostly a few brats, a couple of frat house-style idiots. I've been warned about some who are more sinister. Actually, we all have. VPNs or Tor are highly recommended unless you share a computer ne... I Thot You Was a Toad

    I couldn't agree more. Ever since the introduction of social media to our lives, everyone became so willing to share sensitive information online. Sometimes I see others share very private things in here, it's not really safe to share them in here.

    I also agree with you about VPN but one must be careful about which VPN service they choose. Some of them are willing to share personal info with 3rd parties and some others have serious security loopholes.

    I Thot You Was a Toad June 29, 2017 3:50 pm
    I couldn't agree more. Ever since the introduction of social media to our lives, everyone became so willing to share sensitive information online. Sometimes I see others share very private things in here, it's ... dragonlady

    And some are simply fronts for different security agencies, which may or may not be a good thing depending on in whose security they are invested.

    I'm of two minds about what people should share, especially related to mental health. On the one hand, that sort of information can lead to missed job opportunities, being turned down for educational grants and bursaries, being declined for things which require responsible behaviour like volunteerism or working with children. It can set up misconceptions about capabilities in people's minds that can impede relationships, lead to problems securing loans, establishing credit or renting apartments and other problems. And it can stay on the web for a very long time.

    Yet if people aren't frank about who they are, what they've experienced, how they've grown and changed, what they've learned, how can we learn from them? How do we learn to see past the wound to the person, with all their good intentions, hopes and contributions?

    I Thot You Was a Toad June 29, 2017 3:53 pm
    Refer to the obscene spam mails incidents from various accounts & lot of downvotes on the topic telling how to delete trolling / threatening / insulting topics.. Those various kinds of troll have already cr... KyoZaNa✿

    ヾ(☆▽☆) How are you doing?

    tokidoki June 29, 2017 4:56 pm
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    ***

    I Thot You Was a Toad June 29, 2017 5:09 pm
    *** tokidoki

    Oh great. Lots of pics of plucked chicken.

    tokidoki June 29, 2017 5:52 pm
    Oh great. Lots of pics of plucked chicken. I Thot You Was a Toad

    Well, chicken flesh anyway O.O, although it is warmer today, not so many goosebumps. Want me to send you the photos? (Here is a sexy reclining pose ... ) http://www.mangago.me/home/photo/1704525/

    I Thot You Was a Toad June 29, 2017 6:05 pm
    Well, chicken flesh anyway O.O, although it is warmer today, not so many goosebumps. Want me to send you the photos? (Here is a sexy reclining pose ... ) http://www.mangago.me/home/photo/1704525/ tokidoki

    Ah, the ancient art of chi-bari.

    tokidoki June 29, 2017 6:22 pm
    Ah, the ancient art of chi-bari. I Thot You Was a Toad

    Yes! Who knew Moi? had such endowments? The bras and sweatshirts usually hide it well, don't you think?

    I Thot You Was a Toad June 30, 2017 5:45 am
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    That reminds me, Chapter 3 of Chicken Stalker is up.

    tokidoki June 30, 2017 6:31 am
    That reminds me, Chapter 3 of Chicken Stalker is up. I Thot You Was a Toad

    Choke it ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9BQAAT10Mw