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Why is it always top or bottom not both, my gay friend told me lots of guys do it both way...

WTF June 7, 2014 7:38 pm

Why is it always top or bottom not both, my gay friend told me lots of guys do it both ways

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    Blue June 18, 2014 10:45 am

    Someone that is both dominant and submissive is a seke. http://www.mangaupdates.com <---- go there and put in seke. Seme, Uke, and Seke can actually apply to straight relationships too but in manga they are used nearly exclusively as yaoi terms.

    Judo August 30, 2014 2:52 am

    I wanted them to switch too damnit, so frigging disappointed.

    aDDictedToYaoi October 16, 2014 3:48 am

    its a matter of pride, right?? even if you say they are gay or they prefer men,,they still are men..!! its like the position somehow shows their pride as individuals.. but some takes pride of being the bottom..:)

    Anonymous February 14, 2015 10:24 am

    The great thing for gay men,they could do it both ways. Just that they need to compromise.

    Wine September 13, 2015 6:22 am

    Because yaoi is mostly written for girls.

    ~ VampireQueen ~ September 13, 2015 8:05 am
    Because yaoi is mostly written for girls. Wine

    Its also sometimes written by guys and some guys read/watch yaoi/shounen-ai too. Just check out Junjou Romantica, for example, on Youtube.

    Wine September 13, 2015 5:40 pm
    Its also sometimes written by guys and some guys read/watch yaoi/shounen-ai too. Just check out Junjou Romantica, for example, on Youtube. ~ VampireQueen ~

    Some guys read it, but it's not their target audience. Bara on the other hand is made for gay guys. Does this mean gay guys don't like yaoi? No, the same way like some guys like chick flicks, however if you understand the audience that this is written for, you'll get why switching is pretty rare. This isn't a blanket statement about peoples personal taste, but if you don't understand that you really don't understand yaoi. Yes there are some rare yaoi that aren't like that as much, but they are rare. Junjou is really written with women in mind. I like it, not saying that I don't, but I'm also self aware that it's targeting me as an audience. It's again not a bad thing, but you need to be aware of it.

    ~ VampireQueen ~ September 13, 2015 7:11 pm
    Some guys read it, but it's not their target audience. Bara on the other hand is made for gay guys. Does this mean gay guys don't like yaoi? No, the same way like some guys like chick flicks, however if you und... Wine

    Targeted or not, it can be enjoyed by anyone. Its like saying how I should adore shoujo and josei because I'm female ._.

    Anonymous September 13, 2015 7:16 pm
    Targeted or not, it can be enjoyed by anyone. Its like saying how I should adore shoujo and josei because I'm female ._. ~ VampireQueen ~

    Wine is correct. The majority of yaoi is created by women for an audience of women (though of course as with anything, there are exceptions.) The point of yaoi is to remove gender barriers to allow women to explore thoughts of sex and sexuality without carrying all of the societal baggage that is dumped on women. It really has nothing whatever to do with gay sex. In real life, gay sex doesn't focus nearly as much on anal sex as you see in yaoi. The emphasis on penetration in yaoi is for women readers, who do not relate to blow jobs or frotting.

    ~ VampireQueen ~ September 13, 2015 7:24 pm
    Wine is correct. The majority of yaoi is created by women for an audience of women (though of course as with anything, there are exceptions.) The point of yaoi is to remove gender barriers to allow women to exp... @Anonymous

    Are you even getting what I am saying or are you just talking/writing to feel good about being 'right'?

    Anonymous September 13, 2015 7:35 pm
    Are you even getting what I am saying or are you just talking/writing to feel good about being 'right'? ~ VampireQueen ~

    Right back atcha. I did say there were exceptions but it is silly to ignore the clear point and purpose of yaoi.

    Wine September 14, 2015 12:36 am
    Targeted or not, it can be enjoyed by anyone. Its like saying how I should adore shoujo and josei because I'm female ._. ~ VampireQueen ~

    What part of what I said didn't say that it's ok for to have your own personal taste? Everyone has them, which is why it's called personal taste. Even the yaoi you mentioned was written by a female for a female audience. (Just like some guys like chick flicks and some girls like guy flicks, it still doesn't change the demographics that they are going after when they make that kind of media.) You claim other people are only saying stuff to feel good about being right, when you are talking in circles. All I did was point out a fact to the original question being asked.

    ~ VampireQueen ~ September 14, 2015 5:36 am

    I give up. You are too 'smart' for me :v

    iamxrae October 31, 2015 7:54 am

    I think in the yaoi universe, it has a lot to do with plot. All the manga where the main characters dispute who gets to be seme or uke, there would be no story if they were all seke. Then there's the manly seme and pretty ukes - not everyone wants to see what looks like a little boy doing a hunky guy, tho I have nothing against it. IMO, seke characters would actually make for more plot opportunities.

    LadyBelle March 28, 2018 10:46 pm

    because a couple that switches makes some straight readers uncomfortable. Most yaoi is written by straight women for straight women, not gay men

    elf November 17, 2019 5:17 am
    The great thing for gay men,they could do it both ways. Just that they need to compromise. @Anonymous

    Yes exactly. Which In the las story the guy didn't do that compromise at all.