Sorry, guys! During system maintenance, some functions like comment are unavailable.

Sigh

misekatte January 19, 2015 5:41 pm

More stuff being dragged from the future into the past, another WWII invention shows up 50 years too early. Oh well, we must suspend disbelief here despite the other historical evidence.

Responses
    misekatte January 19, 2015 5:44 pm

    But I appreciate the hard work in updating this ... not being ungrateful, just smh over the historical inaccuracies (sucks to be a history nut sometimes)

    Anonymouse January 19, 2015 8:05 pm

    I think it's going to be all okay because Ciel will beat them all, and so they won't make it into the history books.

    Erenu January 19, 2015 9:27 pm

    well, blinded weaponery-cars exists before 1911, with "Motorgeschütz" and "Marienwagen", the last one is more similar to a Panzer........ but you´re right, "PAnzer " as trademark/model
    was first built in 1936

    tokidoki January 19, 2015 10:03 pm
    well, blinded weaponery-cars exists before 1911, with "Motorgeschütz" and "Marienwagen", the last one is more similar to a Panzer........ but you´re right, "PAnzer " as trademark/model was first built in 19... Erenu

    This is true, but the treads and 'cannon' on this "Panzer" are all WWII equipment. The first armoured vehicle was more like a car on wheels with a guy standing in the top with a machine-type gun. (built around 1902-4) And you are correct about the the approximate year they used the word Panzer, but I thought it was a little later (1938-40-ish but that could be a faulty memory - I should look it up in my history books to be sure)

    Erenu January 20, 2015 12:05 am

    well this manga is dated aprox on the end of XIX century....... 20 years +-........if we think that they kept the tank on secret in the woods of a remote village in the middle of germany........it somekind fits....look at moustard gas....it was known in 1800 but wasnt used till 1917 as a weapon....

    I strongly recommend you these 2 books to learn on tanks:
    - "Encyclopedia of german tanks of World War Two”, Peter Chamberlain and Hilary Doyle. Arms & Armour, 1999.
    -"Tanks of World War I and II" George Forty, Southwater,2006.

    glad to hear from an History-otaku as well ;)

    Erenu January 20, 2015 12:08 am

    pd. I majored in History, sorry for the long post ;)

    LinkyDink January 20, 2015 4:06 am

    Actually the tank is older than WWII. They came in handy during WWI. I don't know the official date they came into production, but it wasn't WWII.

    tokidoki January 20, 2015 5:59 am
    Actually the tank is older than WWII. They came in handy during WWI. I don't know the official date they came into production, but it wasn't WWII. @LinkyDink

    Sorry to burst your bubble but In Germany: The first Panzer tank was built in 1936/8 (two years before the star of WWII), the first armoured vehicle was built in 1902/4 and was little more than a car with high sides and a man with a machine gun sitting in the top section. The first armoured vehicle with big guns and treads (called a Light Tractor or Leichtraktor) was buitl in 1930. For a general description see wikipedia (not the best site for this but does have a fairly good brief summary without all the technical details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_combat_vehicles_of_World_War_II ) The first tanks were not actually built until after WWI ended in 1918. There are dozens of site with similar information though.

    tokidoki January 20, 2015 6:01 am
    pd. I majored in History, sorry for the long post ;) Erenu

    I majored in History too! Got my Masters - mind you it was more Medieval than modern history, but I still had to cover all the bases LOL)

    tokidoki January 20, 2015 6:03 am
    Sorry to burst your bubble but In Germany: The first Panzer tank was built in 1936/8 (two years before the star of WWII), the first armoured vehicle was built in 1902/4 and was little more than a car with high ... tokidoki

    Sorry for the typos, a couple of my keyboard keys are sticking

    Erenu January 20, 2015 10:21 pm

    Tanks are older, that is true. Failed military Prototypes were known since 1900
    BUT,
    PANZER TANKS were built in 1936 and used as a lethal weapon in WWII.

    Erenu January 20, 2015 10:23 pm
    I majored in History too! Got my Masters - mind you it was more Medieval than modern history, but I still had to cover all the bases LOL) tokidoki

    nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!^^

    :3

    misekatte January 21, 2015 4:37 am
    nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!^^:3 Erenu

    Yeah, exceopt learning the 'old languages' was a pain in the butt! (need to upgrade my classical Latin for medieval Latin and needed Old English (weird language - I tell ya) and Medieval French. LOL :D

    misekatte January 21, 2015 4:39 am

    I have a PHD in Medieval English history - sorry - replied t the wrong post!

    tokidoki January 21, 2015 5:11 am
    nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!^^:3 Erenu

    I studied The Crusades and History of Medicine - what did you study?

    tokidoki January 21, 2015 5:13 am
    I have a PHD in Medieval English history - sorry - replied t the wrong post! misekatte

    Cool, another history lover! Always nice to see people who study this stuff!

    Erenu January 21, 2015 7:50 pm

    well I majored in Contemporary History, but I had to study a full 6 years of Latin so I know your pain xDD (I wasn´t decided between Medieval History and Contemporary History so I chose a bit of both, (yeah I´m a bit masoquist, I know) till I decided. Now I´m doing a Master on " The values and changes of the figures of power through XIX-XX- and its impact on society" ............interesting but heavy xDDDD

    Erenu January 21, 2015 7:57 pm

    when I was trying to read a Theology book writen in Visigothic Minuscule I decided this werent truly my thing....almost gone blind you know......

    tokidoki January 21, 2015 8:46 pm
    when I was trying to read a Theology book writen in Visigothic Minuscule I decided this werent truly my thing....almost gone blind you know...... Erenu

    Oi! Scary. I have a copy of the Anglo Saxon Chronicle - what a pain in the butt to read, not only the actual writing, but the inconsistencies in the actual language (because of poor re-copying) so I totally understand your pain.