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Fujoshi#1 January 29, 2019 5:16 am

I hate this manhwa, but why i can't stop reading??

    Momo Todoroki January 29, 2019 11:25 am

    RIGHT?? I KNOW it's too heavy for me but I CAN'T stop T__T

    yeet January 29, 2019 7:31 pm

    Same lmao.

Fujoshi#1 July 19, 2017 12:25 am

Min Gyum it's really a insecure boy. I understand him. I've been on this situation before. He really believes, no matter how Kim Chun Sam it's good to him that he will someday leave him. This is a serious issue. So stop the hate pls

    Quiddisha July 21, 2017 11:07 am

    Yeah he's insecure but he's still one of the most garbage people I've ever seen#-.-) and I have met some GARBAGE people

    Blaenavon July 25, 2017 1:51 am
    Yeah he's insecure but he's still one of the most garbage people I've ever seen#-.-) and I have met some GARBAGE people Quiddisha

    I don't think anyone is garbage. I think they're all dysfunctional people/vampires that don't understand romance very well.

    Sam July 27, 2017 6:01 am

    That's true. He's lived in an environment where he was always despised and disposed by those who he wanted loved from. Then when he stepped it up Sam freaked out. Then the other guy giving him "love" anyone dying for love will fall and do mistakes. Then his guilt over not appreciating Sam is hard on him and seeing how all these girls want him he panics. He's always the loser in everything. So give him a break people. People like him it's hard to believe that finally love is there for him and that this type love and good things will stay. But also I understand that it is too much for Sam. If he cheats well it's part of the reaction process. :(

    Blaenavon July 27, 2017 7:48 am
    That's true. He's lived in an environment where he was always despised and disposed by those who he wanted loved from. Then when he stepped it up Sam freaked out. Then the other guy giving him "love" anyone dyi... Sam

    YES

    BACKOFF July 28, 2017 3:32 am
    Yeah he's insecure but he's still one of the most garbage people I've ever seen#-.-) and I have met some GARBAGE people Quiddisha

    Perhaps you're the garbage.

    Fujoshi_jnu July 28, 2017 6:35 am

    I do understand that he has issues, and has big reasons to sink deeper in them. But there comes a time when you have to grow past that. It's been years since anything bad really happened to him and Sam have given him nothing but love and support. By doing all of that, Min Gyum just treats all of Sam's effort as trash. From the start, Min Gyum has only taken bad decisions, he was lucky to have found Sam and to finally be able to know love and enjoy it. The main reason that Sam only had this whole argument in his head is because there's so much you can do for someone. If your partner can't trust you or give you enough credit then you'll eventually get tired of it, no matter how much love there is and all that will be left is pain and bad memories for everyone. When you think that all of this could be resolved just by Min Gyum changing a tiny bit his bad habits, it's disappointing. we're not hating Min Gyum, at least not me, we're just getting tired because we've been fooled so many times by him and we stopped caring for him. We don't love him as much as Sam does. I do not believe it is okay for him to indulge in his flaws while it makes Sam suffer like this. And that's my opinion.

    Quiddisha July 28, 2017 8:49 am
    Perhaps you're the garbage. BACKOFF

    I seriously doubt that

    Quiddisha July 28, 2017 8:54 am
    I do understand that he has issues, and has big reasons to sink deeper in them. But there comes a time when you have to grow past that. It's been years since anything bad really happened to him and Sam have giv... Fujoshi_jnu

    Oh my gosh someone gets my point(⊙…⊙ ) Probably
    Probably my wording threw some of you guys off but yes I doe see that as being a garbage person because Sam goes through so much for this guy and he uses his lack of trust and insecurities as an excuse to treat others like shit and basks in self pity and that is quite a garbage way to go about doing things. I completely agree I don't hate Min but I didn't care and when somethings happened to him I was a little glad ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ Just because your life was rough doesn't mean you have to make other people's lives any worse(▰˘◡˘▰)

    BACKOFF July 28, 2017 12:20 pm
    Oh my gosh someone gets my point(⊙…⊙ ) ProbablyProbably my wording threw some of you guys off but yes I doe see that as being a garbage person because Sam goes through so much for this guy and he uses his... Quiddisha

    Hey really I don't get your point, you don't hate him yet your happy if something happened to him. You all thinking one sidedly. You thinking about Chun Sams suffering from Min Gyum. Do you know the word garbage? Remember be careful with your word. Min gyum isn't a garbage, just because he's too insecure, he's too coward to voice out his feelings or to bad at sorting out his indifferences will make him a garbage. The way you're thinking is what a garbage. We got your point you getting tired of Min gyeom for being so insecure, depressed, making his past as an excuse and for not trusting Chun Sam but can you blame him? he was not showered with love, he take his confidence by loving chum sam but having that fear that you'll be alone kicked your defense mechanism and it was to be, not to trust. Do you think love is that easy? You expect their relationship to be like rainbow and shits? This manga is trying to depict reality despite the genre. For now they're having a bump in the road in their relationship, it will be solved but surely it's a slow process that's how relationship is. Just because the story doesn't go with your taste you're going to say bad things about it. The author put it on purpose to make Min gyeom like that if you're looking for smooth sailing relationship then go somewhere else don't go and demean a characters. We all have a freedom to voice out our opinion but sometimes when dealing with a crowd chose your wordings. Sorry but really for me garbage is the lowest adjective you can describe a person.

    Quiddisha July 28, 2017 12:35 pm
    Hey really I don't get your point, you don't hate him yet your happy if something happened to him. You all thinking one sidedly. You thinking about Chun Sams suffering from Min Gyum. Do you know the word garbag... BACKOFF

    I didn't say I didn't like the story I actually loved it but the way Min is going about it is just plain wrong, yes I've been in a situation when u feel like shit and can't trust anybody and I know exactly how this guy feels, but this is speaking from experience. the way he goes about it is terrible and yes it is a garbage move and I apologise for calling him garbage it seems some of you guys do understand what I meant and I'm not going to make excuses for that but he just goes around making other people's lives shit because he had a shit life himself and that gets nobody nowhere fast!!! I didn't hate the story cuz I read and reread it and I don't hate Min but I'm happy when things happened to him cuz it felt like justice to me especially when he hooked up with the dude after he and Sam had their convo. That was the shittiest move I've ever seen and trust me I know a relationship is not all rainbows and being realistic I don't expect that, Min is just terrible for using his past to justify what he did and I understand that he didn't trust Sam to begin with and that's fine but that's no reason to go and allow Sam to be in the pain that he was after only being nice ヽ(`Д´)ノ I've had Min's feelings and I've been in Sam's position and this is just not the way

    Quiddisha July 28, 2017 12:35 pm
    Hey really I don't get your point, you don't hate him yet your happy if something happened to him. You all thinking one sidedly. You thinking about Chun Sams suffering from Min Gyum. Do you know the word garbag... BACKOFF

    Sorry for such a long reply tho ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄

    BACKOFF July 28, 2017 1:40 pm

    How can you say he's making other people life shitty? Are you for real? His life is the one who's shitty. No you don't understand much of Min gyeums feelings, if you had been in Min gyeoms situation you should had understand him more, he's not hurting everyone but instead himself, he can't redeem himself out of his past that he craved for love too much to the point of taking his life. People like that are hard to understand, people say that you get what they feel but have you ever encountered a person with the same situation like Min gyeum? Depressed people, suicidal people and unstable mental health people. I did a lot of them, that's why I understand Min Gyeom and tell you no matter how good things happened in their life it's hard to outweigh negative thoughts with positive thoughts. You said Min gyeom makes everyone's life shitty like you're talking to the whole world. You're talking like he's some kind of a villain. He has issues and he don't need petty words and affection but in his condition he needs professional help. A simple person couldn't understand him and maybe for now chun sam too, they lack communication another thing that makes everything complicated. And when the time Min gyeum hooked up with the other guy do you think it's because he's trying to make everyone's life shitty? He's doing to it to make himself feel like he belong that just a simple show of affection towards him makes him feel like it's a blessing, and besides do you think Chun sam is doing a good thing too? He hooked with a girl he had no feelings, they're both doing shitty things to compensate their unsolved feelings. Actually a lot of readers are hating Min Gyeom for they didn't put themselves in the shoes of Min Gyeom I don't mean any hatred towards you my comments sounds rude but honestly I just want to let everyone understand how to look both sides and not focus on defending someone which infact would just make things more dire. All you people says that he's making his past as an excuse yet did he really did it? It was on his mind, it was engraved in his brain and memories I'ts not easy to just changed and forget it. It's not that easy. You're looking for thr bright side but not on the dark side. Reading such comments makes me sad in reading the story any further cause as the chapters go on and on and so the hatred, too focused on your hate you didn't actually analyze the situation propery. NO offense to you but if you really feel that way then go on I hope in reality when you will deal with a person like Min Gyeom, you'll be able to deal it, cause honestly they're hard to deal with and you need to be more patient. Well just wait for the chapters to reveal itself. I saw that they happily had their wedding with a new addition to their family a cute li'l baby maybe that time everythings fine and all issues are solved.

    I'll take my leave here sorry for the long ass reply. Adios.

    Quiddisha July 28, 2017 2:47 pm
    How can you say he's making other people life shitty? Are you for real? His life is the one who's shitty. No you don't understand much of Min gyeums feelings, if you had been in Min gyeoms situation you should ... BACKOFF

    *Sigh* I have dealt with a lot of people like these and you have good points but I still think that Min's reaction was terrible n did what he wanted for himself and didn't think about anybody else. Plus his life was shit but Sam's life was bad too as they showed but at least thanks for sharing your thoughts

    Fujoshi_jnu July 28, 2017 3:32 pm

    @BACKOFF and @Quiddisha, I agree halfway with both of you. I do not approve the word garbage but if that's how you feel you can express it best and although, you've been saying that you know people like Min Gyum and Quiddisha has been saying she's been in the same situation as both characters, you just dismissed her feelings and that's not okay. People are different and react differently when faced to a situation. Min Gyum had a shitty past and decided to let that shitty past ruled him, he has no resolved and no experience in love, which makes things even worse. His story with the cheating with a guy, although wasn't something he deserved, was something he worked for and many times, in the story, he put Sam on guilty trip because of that. Sam being with the girl, wasn't right either but no way did he deliberately hurt Min Gyum as the other did. Sam had a shitty past too, hating to his very existence, they both experienced loneliness, even cheating guy did. And Sam is the only one out of the 3, who has a positive view even so. I could have sided with Min Gyum if his relationship was unstable or something he could doubt of but its not. Their relationship only exists because from the start Sam has put on the work, and I do not think its okay for him to just roll in self pity when you have such an understanding partner right in front of you. I guess that's due to lack of communication, which is pretty ironic since min gyum has always been the most vocal one out of the 2. Sam has basically been carrying min gyum on his shoulders and what if he didn't get sick when he was emotionally overwhelmed? Would it make it okay for Min Gyum to torture him this way? The truth is in IRL he probably would have already been left behind and he knows that so when you know how lucky and blessed to have someone who loves you this way, you try to do better and Min Gyum doesn't.

    BACKOFF July 28, 2017 4:22 pm

    In what way did I dismissed her feelings? And haven't I explained how Min Gyeom's situation are did I say he's doing good? And did I say that what he did was correct? Haven't I pointed out the he doesn't trust Chun sam which is basically the reason in all of the problem? I did not deny the problem what I've been telling from the start is for Min gyeom's point of view cause basically everyone misunderstood him. Really I do all get your point and did I say I hate chun sam or that he doesn't have a shitty past too?. What I'm trying to explain is that your hatred for Min gyeom is kinda out of place to begin with. Actually you saying that I deliberately dismissed her feelings is like I've been stomping my friends condition you didn't even know how I deal with it. Basically your reply was about me so here's my pov.

    Fujoshi_jnu July 29, 2017 12:47 am
    In what way did I dismissed her feelings? And haven't I explained how Min Gyeom's situation are did I say he's doing good? And did I say that what he did was correct? Haven't I pointed out the he doesn't trust ... BACKOFF

    Well that's what I felt you did when you said that she should have understand Min Gyum more if she had been in his situation. It basically sounds like that since she doesn't side with Min Gyun then she couldn't possibly have had the same experience. And I do not hate Gyum, I do not care for him, which is not the same thing. I never said you hated Sam either, I said that you're trying to convince people that Gyum needs more sympathy and I was saying why I disagree. And, no offense here, but for real, I do not need to know your situation to make a comment about something you posted since it wasn't about your personal life but about a character and other people's reaction to this character (again, no offense). Finally, I am just sharing my opinion on the character and why I do not care for him anymore, that part was my general pov of the character.

    Quiddisha July 29, 2017 1:39 am
    @BACKOFF and @Quiddisha, I agree halfway with both of you. I do not approve the word garbage but if that's how you feel you can express it best and although, you've been saying that you know people like Min Gyu... Fujoshi_jnu

    I totally agree with you on this(▰˘◡˘▰) Thanks and I know garbage may not have been the best word but that's what comes to mind ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Quiddisha July 29, 2017 1:42 am
    In what way did I dismissed her feelings? And haven't I explained how Min Gyeom's situation are did I say he's doing good? And did I say that what he did was correct? Haven't I pointed out the he doesn't trust ... BACKOFF

    I don't this the reply was about you honestly and I don't think anyone said you hated Sam you were just defending Min and basically giving him a poor excuse for his behavior. It was quite one sided. And it's not that his misunderstood, it's that he went about it the wrong way

    Quiddisha July 29, 2017 1:45 am
    Well that's what I felt you did when you said that she should have understand Min Gyum more if she had been in his situation. It basically sounds like that since she doesn't side with Min Gyun then she couldn't... Fujoshi_jnu

    I don't understand this is a place to post opinions that doesn't necessarily mean that you hate a character. I mean what can hating Min do for me ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    BACKOFF July 29, 2017 2:18 am

    Well basically, that's what I've been doing from the start right? Defending Mingyeom since you' all have been hating him? Isn't that clear? Don't worry idc about my personal life and I don't want you all know about it but since your words been tramping people in general I can't help but compare. Well I wont explain myself anymore when you all dslike Min gyeom, of course no matter how i bend my words you're going to stand your point. Doesn't mean to hate a charcter? psshh don't deny it girl your post means you hate him. But anyways Min gyeom is still a garbage for you, then okay. I can still see you see posting more about Min gyeom in the later chapters . This site is for pointing opinions I know that but it's undeniable that people are exaggeratingly using their words, you know i don't do like this usually but your comment is kinda off, so don't blame if I do this it's for opinions right? (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜. Anyways I do get your point that you don't care about Min gyeom and I still cant understand why people like to choose sides of a character actually I just understood that Min Gyeon is like that and chun sam is like that no need to make a fuss, perhaps it's just me so yeah I should be more understanding more. But reallt trash talk is my shit, I don't like it so pardon my actions, besides you're not the only one I saw commenting like this.

    Bye, both of you.

    Fujoshi_jnu July 29, 2017 2:48 am
    Well basically, that's what I've been doing from the start right? Defending Mingyeom since you' all have been hating him? Isn't that clear? Don't worry idc about my personal life and I don't want you all know a... BACKOFF

    Idk who you were talking to for each point, it's kinda confusing. Anyway, I also think that garbage was a bit too much, we all did a good job on making her understand that, she also admits that she knows it's a bit over the top. We all also understand that you like min gyum or empathize with him, what nobody (at least not me) blames you for. We just don't agree and tried to make you understand why we don't, it doesn't mean that we hate him (he's not a bad character after all) You're entitled to your opinion like everybody else, so you can defend him all you want as much as we can disagree with it all we want too. It doesn't mean that one of our pov is better than the other. We all feel what we feel, and there's nothing wrong with the fact that they might be opposite to the other.

    Quiddisha July 29, 2017 11:53 am

    This person just took everything I was trying not to do and stuffed it into a paragraph saying I did it ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ But whatever man, hope my point went across and I don't mind a little shit talking either (●'◡'●)ノ

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