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Reading the comments I feel I interpreted Satois intent differently. Like I felt he was trying make a point or show Soutarou what it looks like if its only take take take from one side. And for Satoi he wants Soutarou to stop idolizing him like he's this perfect doll Soutarou must please.
I mean thats how Soutarou is acting, as if Satoi is a shallow doll easily won with nice words and a pretty face and its insulting. Its really really insulting. Satoi response wasn't healthy and Soutarou doesn't seem to the emotionally capacity for this relationship. Feeling pretty toxic right now tbh.
I Dunno I feel Soutarou treatment from the start has been like that or a fan more than a lover. Like Satois not allowed to be a flawed normal human with doubts and fears. Nope he is just "perfect". And thats not really healthy. Satois just a clumsy lovestruck idiot too yah know. He's imature, a teenager, and he wasnt right and he doesn't know what the fuck hes doing. And if Soutarou could realize that they might have a shot.
"I kind of laughed when Satoi said Soutarou was the one who was self absorbed.
Soutarou: People will find you weird if you're with me
Satoi: Ok. Oh I see. Then talks about his own problems with Mifune.
Look at the way Soutarou stays away from Satoi after that. For Satoi's sake. He said "If people think Satoi is weird for just being friends with me. What if we're dating?" Oh look at Soutarou, so self-absorbed trying to protect Satoi. And he is thinking all this, the moment after he got bullied. He is not even being afraid of being bullied more, he's afraid for Satoi.
Soutarou: Don't tell Mifune about your crossdressing. People said you look good together. You won't need me anymore.
"You won't need me anymore." Basically telling you that he thinks that you're with him only because of the secret. Which is it really wrong? When did Satoi ever tell him the reason he loved him. They got together at the start because Satoi thought Soutarou asked him out knowing that she was a he. Then after all that drama, it was Soutarou who confessed that he likes Satoi both as a guy and a girl. The only reason he hurt Satoi at the first place when he found out that Meg was actually a guy was because he himself was bullied by a girl playing a prank so it isn't difficult for him to believe that Satoi a cool kid, would play a prank on him as well.
Satoi: You ever think about me and my feelings when you say stuff because you're the one hurting and insecure?
Hmmm. But Soutarou is self-absorbed."
Satoi has not once actually told Soutarou why he liked him. Soutarou can only guess it's from the fact that Soutarou accepted him and knew about the secret. Satoi could have talked it out. Satoi have to realise he is actually being self-absorbed. He expects Soutarou to be able to have so much confidence when he has done nothing for Soutarou to have that confidence. It is not that farfetched for Soutarou to think that Satoi is only with him because of the secret because Satoi agreed to be with him(as a girl) because he thought Soutarou knew of the secret. SO Satoi is not at all blameless.
Actually he's worse because he has exacerbated Soutarou's insecurities. I have friends that would ask their bf if they look fat and would get so upset if their bf told them they were getting chubby. But here is Soutarou telling his bf that he is too weird for him(after getting bullied, knowing that Soutarou gets bullied for being weird. I mean Satoi's own friend bullies Soutarou) and Satoi did not do anything about that. Seriously?
Satoi has so many chances to be supportive to Soutarou at least ONCE. When Soutarou dressed up as a girl, Satoi called him ugly. Isn't that great?
I don't know but Satoi's treatment of Soutarou has always been of "Hey I'm happy I get to crossdress with someone and they know that I'm crossdressing." Like Soutarou is nothing else but there for Satoi's own confidence. So easy for me to twist it around huh?
yup, I agree. I saw comments like the other one above and it puzzles me why some people absolutely want to disregard anything wrong that Soutarou did because Satoi fucked up. It's not like Satoi was someone who would rape Soutarou at first. Refusing to acknowledge the impact of Soutarou's actions on Satoi is really just wanting to look at one side of the story and that side alone.
The fault of one doesn't disappear or get negated the moment the other's fault is more important. It's stupid to try to think who is more at fault and ignore the other factors of the situation.
That is exactly what I think.
Did you really just try to justify it by saying that we should see Soutarou's actions on Satoi's first that caused him to do that? Seriously?
It does not matter the action that Soutarou does. If your first reaction is violence then this is your own problem. If your reaction to someone simply TALKING to you is violence, then there is something wrong with you.
So what? Since Satoi ignored that his boyfriends gets bullied, ignored that his boyfriend doesn't feel worthy of hanging out with him in school because he's too weird. I should be able to punch Satoi right? I mean I'm not the type to punch first but Satoi's actions makes me want to punch him so I should right?
Your reasoning is nonsense. Nobody's at fault for YOUR OWN violent reactions. If your first reaction is violence then that means that there is something deeply wrong with you. You don't get to blame others for that. That's what abusers would say "I'm not the type to hit people but you made me do it" You are repeating exactly what abusers say. Please check yourself for abusive tendencies.
I want to preface with this I think the LOV are well written and complex bad guys with excellent motivations and back stories. They are people who have been ostracized and struggled and that makes them relatable.
But I am terrified at how many people actually think them winning is a good outcome.
Just in the last few chapters alone should be enough to prove the point I am making. gigmanchia or whatever his name is. Godzillad his way through 3 densely populated cities. He leveled buildings and residential areas. The league did. Not. Blink.
Is the system messed up? Most likely yes. Is there discrimination? Absolutely. Does this country need change? No doubt.
Do I think a group of people who were perfectly okay picking up where chisaki left off with Eri if they had gotten there hands on her are the answer? The same group of people led by a tortured and brainwashed young man whose only wish is absolute destruction so he feels better?
No. Absolutely not.
I know its a manga but we can not ignore that their wish isn't for a better world but to punish and hurt others because they were hurt.
Dabi was willing to kill Shoto despite knowing he went through the same pain.
Toga wants a world where she can stab and kill as she pleases.
Shigaraki wants everything dust because he wants someone else to blame for what he did to his family.
The paranormal society want to eliminate the quirkless to move forward in evolution and create a survival of the fittest world where everyone can use quirks how ever they want and the strongest quirks have all the power.
These dont sound like world orders I'd like to live in.
The best part of this manga for me is that I cant confidently say either side is the good guys. Just sides that have less terrible implications than others.
If you agree with the leagues reasons then okay. But if you think their methods are acceptable.... well then we have differing viewpoints on how much violence we can ignore.
You said everything I wanted to say
Well said, and clear points. I togally agree.
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I agree. You just took the words right out of my mouth.