Now that the comments are back, I would like everyone to know that this manga is trash. Keith is a 100% trash rapist. I have no idea what yeonwoo is thinking. Even the special episodes which were supposed to be some sort of redemption/character developement for keith is 100% trash. With yeonwoo going through shit in the special episodes and keith having anger issues every 10 seconds because his spouse is scared af of him is so stupid. Also the way he treats literally everyone else besides yeonwoo is terrible, and such a terrible example for his child. And not to mention him admitting to doing terrible things to yeonwoo but understating the gravity of his actions in ch 18 of the special episodes: "I forced you to sleep with me against your will" you mean you RAPED him Keith, use the word rape, because that is what you did. He cried and struggled but you held him down and put it in. This was not a 1 second mistake, YOU had full on penetrative sex (RAPE) with this man for what 5-10 minutes while he told you no. You are a rapist.
Yes, I think this manga is trash and anyone who read this and gave it a 5 star needs to look themselves hard in the mirror and examine why they think that this rape romance anger-issue therapy-needing fantasy is ok. Yes, I read it all the way through. Yes, I am deciding to leave a comment here rather than "move on". No, I do not spend all day hating on this manga, just the 2-3 hours of my life I spent reading it, the 1 billion braincells I lost as a result and the 5 minutes I spent to write this comment.
you are allowed to dislike whatever you want, that is totally valid! but shaming the people that enjoy this and acting like it says something about them is stupid
I am not accusing anyone of anything but yes I am telling people to look in the mirror and for good reason. Reflect on what part of this relationship is even remotely ok. Can you see what is wrong with this relationship? If not, why do you like it? Why are you ok with a story that romanticizes an abuser and rapist? Do you think Keith is a redeemable character? Why? This is a story that romanticizes a jerk who told someone to just let themselves be raped. A story that romanticizes a jerk who raped someone. A story that tried to redeem said jerk. Ya'll can downvote me all you like but make sure to look in the mirror on the way out instead of hiding behind "its just a story." Rape culture is something that should never be normalized and I can only pray that everyone who read this manga and liked it has not already become desensitized to it. I've said my piece and now I'm out. You all can decide whether to actually reflect or not.
if u don’t like it it’s okay but like why are u reading it in the first place like ppl know they have a toxic relationship and they still like it it up to them and nobody is normalizing anything ppl know its wrong that why it’s a story it’s fake and ppl have different reasons to like it
plus it a omega verse story what did u expect
You can dislike a story and continue reading anyway to see the ending, and if there is any justice...
and also just because it is omegaverse doesn't mean there has to a romanticization of rape. Plenty of omegaverse either has no rape or doesn't romanticize it.
Hmm, you might be getting something wrong here. The fact that people enjoy reading stories like this doesn't mean they romanticize abusers and rapists. I'm confident that each person who gave this story five stars is fully aware that the relationship is toxic and that nothing like this should even remotely happen to anyone. I'm not a fan of stories like this myself, but I love watching gory-bloody-trashy horror movies. Does that mean I accept & normalize chopping other people into pieces? No, I just like that stories like that allow my brain to disconnect and get some rest from all the thinking & processing. It might be that this story is a sort of "power-off" tool for someone, and I don't think they need to go and look in a mirror for any other reason than to see how beautiful they are.
It is okay to let your frustration and anger out. I would simply discourage you from targeting it towards others.
great way to explain it
I agree with you...if you are aware that its rape in the plot and that part is still "good" for you then you need to reflect on it. Its a abuse/rape story and it is frown upon in society for a reason. But if you are reading this purely for the art and sex scenes like a porno then its okay...i can understand the 5* rating.
Hummm not everyone thinks like you and ofc not everyone thinks like me...but there are ppl who read it and find it convincing enough to stay in a abusive relationship. If you are not aware that this story is bad then what judgment will you make irl? We are human. We learn from reading and observation...if we dont read/listen about law and different situations how will we know what our rights are? I have 0 problem which ppl who are aware and not normalising it (props to them, i love you) but for the small minority who are....uhhh...please (respectfully) seek professional help...
I am just trying to look at the bigger picture... precautions is better than cure after all...if that one person still likes abusive/rape relationship even after counsellor then thats nothing nobody can do about lol
As a psych major, it's quite common for r*pe to be within peoples' fantasies, especially in the receiving end. Of course, none of us would want to actually experience that (hence why they are fantasies rather than actual calculated reality-based desires); however, because manhwas are a disconnect from reality (especially BL, if they're not representative of our actual genders and/or biological sex, which I'm saying since the vast *majority* of ppl who read BL are female and fem-presenting), it becomes easy for most to dissociate from the emotions that they'd otherwise feel in real scenarios, ESPECIALLY since the authors usually make them out to feel as even more of a fantasy by adding thrill to the moment, even when they show how the victim suffers to an extent. Anybody who has experienced it would know it's... a lot worse than what was presented, and therefore this is a romanticized version, meaning that it's a fantasy.
Why would people crave this fantasy? Quite simple. Power control dynamics (hence why CNC is so popular), Taboo and Transgression (the thrill of experiencing socially forbidden scenarios, since fear and excitement are in similar areas of the brain), Coping Mechanism (allows them to process their own agony if they've been in similar situations), the fluidity of the brain's Arousal Template (which tends to go against one's actual behaviour) -- albeit these are all merely common examples of why, and it varies from person to person. However, do allow me to re-emphasize: fantasies are NOT definitive of their behaviour nor moral standpoints. For example: I enjoy the thrill of these fantasies to an extent myself, but as a victim of these situations, actual real-life perpetrators make me feel nauseated and I fully acknowledge how they require severe psychotherapy treatment.
Your moral standpoint is not definitive of how the human brain works. Although, I do agree from a subjective standpoint that Keith is absolutely trash and I wanted to break my screen through the entire Manhwa; he got what he wanted, in the end. #－.－)
Every manga on here has some form of r*pe. It's not normalizing it but it's not a nice thing in bls but it's in it. If you don't like it you don't have to read, but don't shame other people for liking it.
All i can gather from that was all humans are born problematic fuks regardless of morals and behaviour (other than the coping mechanism one...i kind of understand that one) coz i have never ever thought, experienced or fantasied anyone raping me or anyone else or rape in a romantic way...my morals always took over me maybe. ig i cant understand normal ppl...thats that ig, its okaybye
If that is your individual case, that's valid and acceptable.
However, morals are not synonymous to one's fantasies and I'm unsure where you're gathering that from. I studied psychology precisely to help change the people that would otherwise be the perpetrators in this scenario, amongst many other reasons -- but that is one of them, which says more than enough about my moral standpoints since I also express it into behaviour.
Yes, humans are "problematic" by most people's definitions if you leave our rationale apart, because then we'd merely be one more Mammal species acting on instinct. And I'm sure you know just how much all of us have grown to despise instinct. Regardless, I don't see how partaking in these fantasies safely is damaging, because that is what they are: a fantasy (unless one partakes in them to the extent of it impairing their daily function, since that'd become an addiction qnd could hint that the individual may actually act on said thoughts). Examples of these fantasies being implement safely is things such as Consentual-non-Consent, with one's partner, or consuming media such as this Manhwa (and millions of other, which I'm sure you've seen).
Again, to clarify since you misunderstood: NOBODY who isn't mentally ill (and possibly could pose a risk to themselves or others) believes that the rape part is good; however, it is largely uncommon for that to impact one's ability to enjoy the Manhwa even when acknowledging how the rape is immoral, because it's.. executed as fantasy, fiction. Again, I've been a victim of rape, and it did not feel like this one bit, it felt much more horrid and gruesome; and this Manhwa purposefully left those details aside when Keith raped him (what victim would hold tightly onto their r*pist and call them "My Alpha" during the act?), to further indicate that it is a fantasy, NOT a thought that is desired to be implemented directly onto reality.
Editing the reply I left to you bc I cannot find an editing option on this website: *NOBODY who isn't mentally ill (and possibly could pose a risk to themselves or others) AND immoral
This comment really shouldn’t have as much dislikes as it has
Maybe the ones you read, but that says more about you...
Late reply here, but thank you for this thoughtful comment. If you're reading this, are aware that the relationship is trash, but somehow find enjoyment in it, then you do you. What I don't think is good, however, is people who don't realize this is healthy, see the 9 stars, and think this is ok because everyone else likes it.
The 35 people who liked my comment give me hope for this society. The 15 people who disliked a comment calling out romanticized rape, well, I got nothing.
Now that we have comments back... Can anyone please tell me what is going on with this manga??? I used to buy the raws when they came out in CRAFT but now I can't find the new updates anywhere :/
Plz inform me as well. It's been more than a year
exactly, and it left us on such a cliffhanger ugh!!!
yea... this isn't great. Why did wanibuchi wait for koiziumi to be dead drunk or really sleepy before making his move? Once I could overlook but that pattern of behavior seems a bit predatorial.
yeah ☠
omfg comments back after 10 years I missed reading everyones comments so much!!!!!!!!
THAT DUDE SEXUALLY ASSAULTED YOU WHY ARE YOU TALKING TO HIM NORMALLY???
YEEEEEAAAAH LIKE WHAT THE HELL
Yes yell at report him get angry
Hmmmm this is very very similar to "at the end of the road"...
Not that I'm complaining or anything
Typical plot
Isekai, reincarnations, swap body.
Anyway I still love it
P.s. kill the light novel(2012) while at the end of road manhwa(2016)
noo remember that other work where the dude was killed by his lover's lover and he was an actor and there was another actor who liked him and was sleeping with the boy whom the dead actor transferred to? i forget whats called
I don’t know the one you mentioned because there’re many novels and mangas that have the similar plots.
For me, I like true star and kill the light.
...oh no i'm not that much into yaoi novels, just comics (not sure if the one i mentioned has a novel tho)
uh i think they kill the actor in a car accident... the boy commits suicide at the same time or overdoses but survives with the other dude's consciousness... then makes a name for himself since he used to be a good actor the other dude eventually realizes that that it's the author who died and obvs end up together... *grabs shoulder* well???
Bruh can someone tell me why craft vol 92 came out and usage no mori is not in there? There hasn't been a new chapter out since February and the next volume won't come out till August and even then there is no guarantee there will be a new chapter... At this rate it will be 6 months between updates.
Ps. We are all caught up. No more raws.
Ya'll need to stop shipping a literal rapist with Mr. Yoon...
The ending was kinda bad because it kinda solidified the dynamic between the two of them that it was the uke's job to "make" the seme want to live, and if not the seme will kill themselves.
(realistically) this would either end in the uke becoming constantly tired/worn out becuz of suicide always hanging over them and all the emotional baggage of the seme, OR the seme eventually commits suicide and the uke blames themselves (even though they shouldn't)
I think the seme's just joking. He meant stay with me forever
Now that the comments are back, I would like everyone to know that this manga is trash. Keith is a 100% trash rapist. I have no idea what yeonwoo is thinking. Even the special episodes which were supposed to be some sort of redemption/character developement for keith is 100% trash. With yeonwoo going through memory loss in the special episodes and keith having anger issues every 10 seconds because his spouse is scared af of him is so stupid. Also the way he treats literally everyone else besides yeonwoo is terrible, and such a terrible example for his child. And not to mention him admitting to doing terrible things to yeonwoo but understating the gravity of his actions in ch 18 of the special episodes: "I forced you to sleep with me against your will" you mean you RAPED him Keith, use the word rape, because that is what you did. He cried and struggled but you held him down and put it in. This was not a 1 second mistake, YOU had full on penetrative sex (RAPE) with this man for what 5-10 minutes while he told you no. You are a rapist.
Yes, I think this manga is trash and anyone who read this and gave it a 5 star needs to look themselves hard in the mirror and examine why they think that this rape romance anger-issue therapy-needing fantasy is ok. Yes, I read it all the way through. Yes, I am deciding to leave a comment here rather than "move on". No, I do not spend all day hating on this manga, just the 2-3 hours of my life I spent reading it, the 1 billion braincells I lost as a result and the 5 minutes I spent to write this comment.
most dramatic comment i've ever read
yes because thinking rape is bad is dramatic.
This comment is worth pinning.
I wonder how a perfectly normal person who has lived his life as an average member of the society ends up in love with a trash like that.
I respect your opinion but, there's no point in calling Keith a Rapist. Yeonwoo liked Keith for years and he does think of having dirty scenes with Keith. Keith cannot control his Rut. Yeonwoo can't also control his heat cycle so what's the point?.. They both loved each other ever since or even before Keith had sex with Yeonwoo. It's Omegaverse what did yall expect. Anyways just my opinion don't take it seriously and don't be trigger. (▰˘◡˘▰)
Its just a story bruh chill out. None of it is real.