Dollantasy : Please i need Jin and Jian badd

Hmm : Is the author going to write a story for the stalker blind date guy and the guy in the limo? (Chapter 32)

kananana : Thank god the art did the story justice, it's so interesting

donteatoatmeal : and for my next trick i will once again root for the 2nd lead (blonde puppy junior thats a little possessive)

Noelia001 : This manhwa is so trash. It acts like this world has some sort of political laws, but they’re completely nonsensical. An illegitimate child marrying a crown prince is stupid—the only way it would be possible is if she had been acknowledged and registered as legitimate. Let’s say they did that but just forgot to mention it. Then her suddenly breaking off her engagement with the crown prince to go with the duke was nonsense as well. They used a vague excuse about the duke calling in the favor the emperor/king had publicly said he would grant him.
And don’t get me started on the duke. So he fell in love with her because she sent him some supplies through letters during the war? Lmao. Okay, sure, supplies are always needed in war but the transportation costs would have been incredibly expensive! With what money was she buying all of that? Didn’t her family hate her? The duke falls in love with her out of nowhere and doesn’t seem to have any mindset of his own. This character only exists to support her. He has no goals or ambitions of his own, yet the story keeps telling us he’s an amazing warrior. Lmao. Buddy is a bot.

jerking it to buff ukes : damn am i the only one who dont want them switching

OkayOkay : Oviposition is an absolute NO for me eww

BLUE : I don't think anyone can out slut Richard

PassionNerd : I think we really should understand Tae’s character more to understand his decisions. Let me explain.
Human psychology is complicated and Tae is one of the people whose actions/decisions are caused by a lot of intertwined factors at play. It’s just that u have to understand him & his situation from the start to really make sense of Tae’s decisions. Sure, I can totally get the hate on Ilay (I even agree), but Tae??? No way! I analyzed Ilay’s psychology previously, tho I never defended Ilay’s actions.
But Tae?? I’m totally defending Taeui!

I may not agree with every decision Tae made, and I would have done things differently (as me) but I at least understand Tae’s decisions from his POV. Sit down, it’s gonna be a long one.
• “Tae srly told Ilay the ‘truth’ just from one smile???”
When Tae said: “‘Could there really be someone who smiles so joyfully the moment they see him?” And told him the truth….
That smile held so much more meaning for Tae instead of just being persuaded by the ‘beauty’ of that smile. That smile did push him to tell the truth after lots of hesitation. In the novel, there’s A LOT MORE conflict in Tae’s thoughts. Note that, Tae specifically mentioned that: ‘It resembled the smiles during the time he reunited with Ilay at Rahman’s villa.’

Try seeing it from the POV of a guy who has always been undervalued all his life, getting used to being constantly compared to Jae (It’s not Jae’s fault), feeling mediocre, used by ppl for benefits, used by his own uncle, always unlucky, never getting recognized for being his own person, living in his family member’s shadows, getting shunned and beaten by colleagues…To the point where He developed low self-esteem and would always refer to himself as average from a young age.

Ilay was arguably the first person to approach Tae without caring about Jae or Tae’s uncle. Tae saw how Ilay threw away everything just for him as who he was, not anybody’s lucky charm or nephew. (Ofc Ilay had hurt him too but Tae never justified his actions nor forgot it. I'll explain soon) Throughout the story, He always remembers and will always hate what Ilay did; he never thinks he himself deserved it either, but parts of Ilay as a person still made Tae feel so valued. (It fulfilled his emotional needs)

From his POV, imagine how valued an undervalued guy felt when ‘the inhumane Ilay’ smiled so widely just from merely seeing him? (At Rahman’s villa) And how just from Tae saying “I’m urs.” earned him the same smile from back then? Ilay’s smiles showed how much the inhumane Ilay changed for him and how much Ilay values him, even though Ilay can’t express himself verbally.He liked how for the first time in his life, his existence felt so valued by S. 1 and he could see Ilay’s feelings for him reflected in that exact smile. But He didn’t dismiss or forgive the rape either nor did he justify it.
• “Wdym, he didn’t forgive Ilay? He totally did!”
Might seem that way but he never did. (A lot of Tae's spiraling thoughts are cut but it’s not the manhwa’s fault bc it’s hard to adapt every detail.)The answer needs ppl to understand Tae’s mindset /nature/upbringing/coping mechanism….(I'll explain soon)
In the novel, Tae told Ilay the ‘truth’ seeing how desperate Ilay seemed (explained in the last comment). As soon as Tae said it, Tae felt a faint surge of ‘frustration’ and ‘anger’ again (about the rape), but then he said:
“Whatever, let’s just…let it go.”
• “ Tf u mean ‘let’s just let it go’? Tae forgave the rape like it’s nothing???”
Let’s understand why he ‘lets things go’ but I will first answer that Tae didn't forgive the rape.[Minor spoiler] Tae, still to this day, hated what Ilay did to him, but he chose not to think about it as a way to cope with the ‘pain’. I guess u could say he let it go for a while, but the painful memories will always pop up throughout the sequels. You know why I said that? Bc…
Even in the sequels, he will always bring it up. Tears would well up and he would get really depressed QUICK whenever he thought about the past incidents. Before you victim-blame, understand that the reason he let things go bc it actually has a lot to do with Tae’s nature, coping mechanisms, and his upbringing:
1/ He constantly feels pain/undervalued all his life. He learned to cope with pain by pushing it away bc he will always feel pain regardless of his will(Uncle forcing him, Ilay mentally/physically tormenting him since UNHRDO, shunned & beaten by colleagues, getting betrayed by the people he loves…etc).
Therefore, he learned to accept the miserable, flawed world he’s living in. He just copes with the harsh reality by pushing away the harshness of it to ‘survive’. Tae has to learn to cope with things bc can you imagine Tae being constantly depressed in his miserable life, not being able to push away pain and trauma?
It would be a suicide story then, ngl.
Tae was written to be a mentally strong character who’s supposed to thrive to survive in his miserable life. And this story’s title literally translates to “suffering”. A book that tells the tale of Tae’s suffering. (Even Ilay later said in terms of mental strength, Tae was stronger than him.) Even when Tae can't help liking Ilay while also about to burst out crying bc of what Ilay did to him, he has to push his mind to let things in the past go bc he can’t change it nor can he torture himself by mulling over it.
2/ He doesn't just let things go with Ilay; this applies to almost everyone. Even with his uncle who used him, he still holds a grudge but he would prefer not to think about it and find the chance to make them pay later. Also with Xinlu who hired a sniper to kill him, too.
3/ Tae’s always been the type to focus on the present instead of the past or future. (Go back to when Ilay said Tae’s frontal lobe might be damaged and his uncle actually described Tae that way.) He can't change the past so he’d rather not think about it bc it only pains him. I mean…his past is painful, his future looks bleak…can you blame him??? Maybe beer also helped dull his mind from the harsh reality too.
4/ Remember: He said he hates people’s actions sometimes, but rarely the person themselves. He’s a people lover, who loves, understand human’s flaws/ nature very well. Ever since the start of the story, Tae empathized with everybody not just Ilay alone.(Ilay, Xinlu, Tae’s colleagues...) That’s why I said he never forgave nor forgot what Ilay did, but he chose to stay with Ilay and try his best to change him as a person bc he understood that Ilay was an inhumane psycho from the beginning. Tae saw the potential in Ilay’s growing humanity and has always been the type to take things upon himself to fix what he could. (Applies to other people too)
5/ Tae still has a life to live and the things he wanted to do aligned with Ilay’s in the first place (since the confession: wanting to be with him).
It just so happened that Ilay didn’t hear him yelling that he’ll be back; Tae had to save Jae and Ilay felt betrayed and used, so things unfortunately went awry. Tae made up his mind and already accepted the future hardship he would face with Ilay. So he just goes along with it bc from his POV why make things harder by making himself miserable thinking about what Ilay did when he still has to repay Ilay and already decided things a long time ago.(AGAIN, HE NEVER FORGAVE HIM.)
• “Wdym Tae didn't forgive him? He went with Ilay!”
Tae didn't choose to go with Ilay just bc ‘he let things go’ or he forgave him.
It takes a lot more than that. Going with Ilay didn't mean he forgave or forgot what Ilay did; there are actually a lot of factors at play that made him choose to go back to Ilay;
1/ He promised to pay back the debt he owed to Ilay. Remember that Ilay said:
“As much as I risked for you, I’ll make sure to collect it from you.”
Tae had always planned to pay it back since the call. Tae only GET TO pay it back after what Ilay had done. Tae’s not the type to neglect his responsibilities or break his promise.
2/Tae’s initial goal aligned with Ilay’s, so resisting wasn’t going to do him any good. As I explained earlier, the situation turned unfortunate. That’s why Tae said the ‘situation was unfair’ and Tae said he himself ‘didn’t’ deserve it. But since his mind was already made up long ago, he considered it the hardship he had to go through for the decision he made to go back to Ilay.
3/ During a conversation with Xinlu, Tae said:
“I have to pay back what he lost and what he did because of me.”
Meaning that he felt responsible for the whole thing that happened when he asked Ilay to get him out. It might sound ridiculous to some thinking that Tae is a victim who feels guilty about the abuser’s actions (Ilay) but I would argue that it’s just Tae’s nature. For example: In ch. 101, when Ilay warned Tae not to meet Xinlu, Tae retaliated saying he felt responsible for Xinlu becoming miserable in his job, leading him to quit.
Therefore, He doesn't just feel responsible for Ilay but also for plenty of others. Tae has always been that way. When he felt the need to help or be responsible for s.1/sth, he took it upon himself to make it right/repay it.
4/ Ch. 101 talking with Xinlu, Tae said sth about:
“Becoming Ilay’s weakness.” And in ch.145 Tae said sth about: “To protect innocent people from getting hurt, he has to take charge of looking after Ilay.”
Tae meant that he would hold his inhumanity down and make him suffer by having a weakness. (Using Ilay’s humanity for Tae against Ilay)
It’s more about Tae as a people lover and would always want to save ppl even back in UNHRDO. (Even strangers). Remember when he pointed a gun at Ilay to save a random dude? Yeah, that’s just how he is. U see how many ppl’s lives he saved as Ilay’s assistant instructor? Tae has this moral obligation to help keep Ilay’s inhumanity under control using Ilay’s humanity for Tae and using Tae’s ‘Tact’.
5/Tae’s feelings for Ilay compounded since long ago and so did Ilay’s. Realizing Ilay’s feelings for him and seeing Ilay’s effort to change himself just for Tae was the ultimate thing that made Tae unable to help but like that part of Ilay even when he also hated what Ilay did. Tae felt genuinely so valued for the first time as who he was.
Tae is a people lover; he loves people and understands people very well, which makes it harder for him to hate people. (Ex: his colleague who shunned and beat him) Tae understood Ilay’s nature so well; he kept feeling bad for Ilay even when he sometimes hated Ilay, too. Notice how Tae said he hated Ilay’s actions, not the person? That’s Tae’s nature at play.
• [Conclusions]
It’s not as simple as “He’s dumb.” Type shyt. Ppl around him hide stuff from him all the time and kept him in the dark, Ilay is incredibly hard to read too, so everything IS SUPPOSED to be confusing for him.
It’s quite unfair to judge his decisions without actually considering or understanding Tae’s character as a whole and his situation. Reading from a character’s POV requires the reader to put themselves in the character’s shoes. Though one may not agree with their decisions, one should at least understand them. When u judge a person for their behavior, you should ask what options they have. It’s not like Tae wasn’t thinking at all; he was spiraling the whole time.
• “So then, will Ilay suffer for what he did?”
The answer kind of depends on whether you count only the end of book 1 or include all of the sequels.
• [If we think about all the sequels]:
[General ideas of the sequels spoiler]
Then I would argue that Ilay does suffer throughout the story Eps in the sequels, but not in the sense that people would normally expect or in a typical Black Flag apology type. He suffered the worst punishment for him as ‘Ilay’. Killing or torturing Ilay won’t even make the guy flinch. Throwing him in prison is impossible (The story’s setting is technically about corruption and about people who are ‘above’ the laws.) The best punishment for Ilay is to hold Ilay’s humanity for Tae against Ilay and make him suffer mentally. (But it’s unfair bcTae has to suffer, too) Read the sequels and you’ll get what I mean.
• [If we count only in book 1]:
[Next chapter spoiler]
Unfortunately, no. Tae chose to go with Ilay in the end; there’s a time-skip afterward and side stories. Understandably, people might not like what Tae did and expect a redemption arc from Ilay (including me). I wanted Tae to get a proper apology, honestly. I’m still, to this day, pissed off at Ilay, but I read the sequels for Tae.
•[Opinion]
Maybe there are other factors that I haven’t mentioned or may have missed. I guess I’ll reread the novel again. I think this story’s characters’ psychology is so so interesting to analyze and the characters are consistent with their nature instead of just ‘changing overnight’. The characters fit well in the environment they’re in, too. And I think this story is just getting started at the end, eps Iltae’s relationship progression.

animegirlalexa : if anyone else wants to discuss the contents of the chapter with me please do or please write some comments so we can drown out the negativity

Mae : So they will be living as terrorist?

miaomiaomao : Am I tweaking or did they use ai to draw the first panel

fish : The anime is free on youtube it was really good ALSO the main character is voiced by adonis otagori in ensemble stars and sang the theme song to the anime (I love his voice)

mosaicked : Ilay is such an enigma to me. It's not that I endorse his actions, it's just that I can't seem to understand him at all to the point that it humors me

Sage : Glad Taeha let Ari's dad know what happened. Instead of her going down the wrong path

LONG HAIRED MANS PUBIC HAIR : Tf why does hong yiran look like my dad dawg

animegirlalexa : hello can we please discuss the contents of the chapter instead of fighting and being rude this comment section is very uncivilized. anyway i am very glad to see this chapter and i think that eventually something big will happen. I love seeing the two of them like this bickering, it brings me back to their high school days. i also love seeing eunhyuk caring for suae so gently it makes me happy. dohwa I am disappointed in you that you have not contacted suae at all during this time and not even checking if she is okay through of all this mess. anyway i am hoping soon that the conflict between eun and suae will be resolved so i can see some lovey dovey moments between them. i know dle and kkl will never see my comment but i really appreciate them for this story. also suae is snatched

Rin47 : Not really a spoiler...





Just finished the late 399 and I'm shipping Saehoon & Soleum so much!!

Rin : Wow. She really does look like Seju and Sungji from WDTFS. Ughh, I miss Seju

Kiranemo : An updateafter uploading chapter 12 not too long ago? We're being fed

Nigh V. Lancaster : Wew he' got meister!

Furu : It has been multiple months and years since i kept checking, this is still not update, i miss my mother, i miss little a, and i miss kendrick, please come back quickly because i am tired of reading non fetish content, love - Me. (▰˘◡˘▰)

toe_lickerrrr03 : Nah they got to incinerate the other twin

Crybaby69 : This chapter was such an important thing to happen for the mc to understand that the ml would love him no matter what

Yuuko Ichihara : If one day Nan Chan will finally be made into a serialized manga, I hope thay make it like this. This art is heavenly, this art is., god. So good. Imagine the part where Jing Lin is crying when Cang Ji died and he saw Cang Jis reverse scale. Oh my god.

KangYujin유진 : i need to drown in the smell of their mixed pheromones pls it probably smells like heaven

witwics : Does bro know he can pivot?

Yahwi♡♡ : Who cares when this was your shit years ago? Who cares when you don’t like it now? Leave this alone amd stop spreading your hateful shit here because not everyone read this back then.

So go find smth u like and stop shitting this

Onemillionyengirl : Boringgggggggggg

starlikeeyes : WHEWWWWW i need to be between both of them

Lenzav33 : "my mana is in his mana hole" what a word choice indeed

핑쿠 : they're watching all that cuddling on a sofa without A BACKREST

Lisa : Wow that was a long back story. I miss the FL

Nowmiee : Y'all are out there stressing and getting mad about the chapter like ur the only one reading, as if it should only fit your preference. If it's not your cup of tea, then skip. God forbid an author gives fanservice to their fans, maybe not for those on the same page as u, but there are other fans who likes it.

Calm down and stop overanalyzing everything that's literally how some stories get discontinued and some authors get ruined because of some people who keeps complaining, demanding, hating and overcomplicating everything. Lol. I don't ship them either but I didn't even get mad after reading the chap, I just laughed because potato probably got slapped hard LMAO

Eating vinegar : Seriously, will he make the same kind of mistakes he made in the past?

persephone : FUCK WITH OPEN ENDING! (╯°Д °)╯╧╧ BUT I STILL LOVE THE ANGST THOU!

Meraki : ok they definitely look like sadistic beauty's top nd btm

Potato : Finally all this misunderstanding are getting solved

Frankenstein : Hyunjae wanna be recruited by Lezhin so bad

Kuro : The art changed sm omg even the cover pages art degraded, it was so majestic before

Matcha latte : Uhm so first time seeing someone using their cum to loosen up their partner after jerking off right infront of them ahem hot. Hahaha they were so cute totally recommend yall should read ts hha kinda feels rushed but it was cute

Chrollos sweet n sour cum : FINALLY LEEJUN!! showthem what that dih got

Tine : Can i know the name of the novel or the author
Want to find the novel

Sehun is my hubby : Guys go and read the novel .this is only half story ... novel is really soo good

kkkerryy : Are they both transmigrated? But the ML thinks he’s regressed?

♡♡♡♡ : They will be fiiiiiine... they better be

nana : terrible

ManlyBottom : Uwah, we finally see Eve grew up. I'll stick here because I'm sure it will be happy ending for Gozu and Eve

아지 : YES BABY???

ryan : id be embarrassed

starlikeeyes : “and how can you tell who is kind and good hearted?”
“you’ll be the one to let me know.”

i hate how funny ilay can be

Zzz : GIMME MORE!! GIMME MOREE

miaomiaomao : Oh my god underrated masterpiece

lili : Yk how either at the beginning or the end of that chapters, sometimes the author will put something like “snippets” of what their future will be like (i.e. showing taeha w his daughter that looks like haesu or haesu dressing glamorously (being thrown into taeha’s world)).. but what if it’s only a “what if” type of thing and they end up going separate ways bc of taeha’s master mindful 1000 steps ahead light yagami strategic way of thinking, he swears up and down that haesu will end up hurt by the end of his schemes

I’m rereading for like the 5th time so these are just some thoughts I’m having

mars : Torment him more please

Yuuko Ichihara : What kind of heavenly art is this. I like arts like these!!!

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i was interested in the story after reading the manhwa and decided to read the novel thinking there’s gonna be good days ahead. :))))))) how wrong i was. now i’m traumatized.

Jam❤ : Maybe end of season 1, right?? That's not kind of ending that I'm expecting.. Ughhh

Octavia34 : People will complain, they will about anything, but this is actually a very good plot. I don't really think there were any gaps. You don't need to beat the dead horse of details. We didn't need a bunch of chapters on minor details that in the end, don't really matter all that much. Everything that needs to be there is there.

Some of the art isn't properly finished, that's obvious enough, but it was terrible and at least they weren't using unaltered 3D body assets for the main group of characters like I've seen other manwhas do. So what if they forgot to color a foot or forgot to erase a few lines. The level of work that goes into making a manwha is a lot more than I think most people give them credit for. To me, these few artistic mistakes are little more than a typo that didn't get caught before publishing a book.

I really really appreciated that the monsters were actually creepy and dangerous. I absolutely loved that they didn't really hold back on the gore and horror of what a gate would be. This wasn't the fantasy that gates are in most other stories, it was legitimately catastrophe. Not just some destroyed buildings or out-of-sight-out-of-mind-inside-gates like most other guide verses. They didn't hold back with how terrible and bloody it was, and that's a risk most manwhas just don't take.

Wish there was more of the sex, but we also know why there isn't. Lots of frontage play which you barely glimpse in other manwhas. It is funny to me though that with as much gore as we see, the artist was extremely conservative with the sex and didn't let us see jack shit of the penatrative sex. What little bit of it there was.

My only lingering question after reading this is if the American nonamed's kids are normal human beings.

Shu : I'm only a few chs in and I hate the ml sm, he's just so annoying. Hope my opinion will change going forward though(〜￣△￣)〜