Finder (Yaoi) manga

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Yamane Ayano 2001 released.
Action / Drama / Mature / Yaoi
ファインダーの標的; ファインダーの檻; ファインダーの渇望; ファインダーの熱情; ファインダーの真実; ファインダーの虜囚; ファインダーの隻翼; ファインダーの渇望; 探索者系列; Viewfinder; Viewfinder Series; Finder no Hyouteki; Finder no Netsujou; Finder no Ori; Finder no Ryoshuu; Finder no Sekiyoku; Finder no Shinjitsu; Finder no Katsubou; Finder Series; Target in the Viewfinder; Cage in the Viewfinder; One Wing in the Viewfinder; Prisoner in the Viewfinder; Truth in the Viewfinder; Passion in the Viewfinder; Desire in the Viewfinder; You're My Loveprize in Viewfinder
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Summary

The following content is intended for mature audiences and may contain sexual themes, gore, violence and/or strong language. Discretion is advised.

Vol 1: Target in the Finder (Finder no Hyouteki)
1. You're my Loveprize in Viewfinder: Freelance photographer Takaba Akihito is abducted by the powerhouse of the criminal underworld, Asami Ryuichi, who claims both Akihito’s body and soul. Not just for tonight, but forever...
2. Fixer: Again delving into the dark underworld, Akihito meets icy beauty, Fei Long- leader of Hong Kong’s mafia.
3. Embrace the Heat of the Night: Akihito is shocked when Asami show up on his doorstep, one stormy night.

Vol 2: Cage in the Finder (Finder no Ori)
1. Splendor of High Rises 1-4 (Kourou no Hana ~Unobtainable~): The fateful tale of how Asami and Fei Long first met 7 years ago.
2. Body Chase: Working with a police detective, Akihito infiltrates Asami’s flagship club, Sion.

Vol 3: One Wing in the Finder (Finder no Sekiyoku)
1. Naked Truth 1-5: Tokyo arc. Just as Asami and Akihito are beginning to be drawn closer to each other, Akihito falls for a trap set by a vengeful Fei Long.
2. Love Surprise: On New Year’s Day, a very drunk Akihito repeatedly calls up Asami and harasses him over the phone.

Vol 4: Prisoner in the Finder (Finder no Ryoshuu)
1. Naked Truth 6-12: Hong Kong arc, Part 1
2. Takaba's Wonderful Day: After witnessing Akihito being humiliated on the job, Asami offers to take Akihito out for the evening.

Vol 5: Truth in the Finder (You're my Naked Truth in the Viewfinder) (Finder no Shinjitsu)
1. Naked Truth Zero: The story of how Fei Long and Yoh first met.
2. Naked Truth 13-18: The conclusion of Naked Truth, Hong Kong arc, Part 2
3. Naked Truth Extra 1 - Temporary Paradise (Naked Truth epilogue): Asami and Akihito spend time in the South Pacific while they both heal.

Vol 6: Passion in the Finder (Finder no Netsujou)
1. Naked Truth Extra 2 - Drowning in a Sea of Bloody Marys (continuation of Temporary Paradise): Akihito gives Asami a massage.
2. Escape & Love 1-5: Asami and Akihito return to Tokyo. Despite their clashing worlds, Akihito and Asami continue to be drawn to each other.

Vol. 7: Desire in the Finder (Finder no Katsubou)
1. Pray in the Abyss 1-9: Akihito splits his time between being Asami's cook (and housemate) and working as a daredevil photographer. But what happens when he catches another man weeping on Asami's perfectly tailored sleeve? Are business and pleasure about to mix in the worst possible way?
2. Takaba Akihito's Graceful Summer Holiday: Akihito and Asami both find ways to beat the heat.
3. Head of Department Takaba Akihito's Rose Colored Accomplishments: Akihito dreams that he is the General Manger of Takaba, Co., and attempts to bend subordinate Asami Ryuchi to his will.

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Chapters(64)

Finder Vol.8 Ch.64 : Pray in the Abyss 18

Jul 13, 2015

Finder Vol.8 Ch.63 : Pray in the Abyss 17

May 5, 2015

Finder Vol.8 Ch.62 : Pray in the Abyss 16

Mar 4, 2015

Finder Vol.8 Ch.61 : Pray in the Abyss 15

Dec 30, 2014

Finder Vol.8 Ch.60 : Pray in the Abyss 14

Oct 31, 2014

Finder Vol.8 Ch.59 : Pray in the Abyss 13

Sep 5, 2014

Finder Vol.8 Ch.58 : Pray in the Abyss 12

Jul 17, 2014

Finder Vol.8 Ch.57 : Finder Series Extra 5: The Onslaught of Love of the Diligent Photographer Takaba Akihito

Jul 21, 2014

Finder Vol.8 Ch.56 : Pray in the Abyss 11

Jun 2, 2014

Finder Vol.8 Ch.55 : Pray in the Abyss 10

Mar 7, 2014

Finder Vol.7 Ch.54 : Finder Series Extra 4: Hardworking Manager Takaba Akihito's Seductive Night of Overtime

Sep 21, 2013

Finder Vol.7 Ch.53 : Finder Series Extra 3: The Day Businessman Asami Ryuichi's Little Monster Arrived

Sep 21, 2013

Finder Vol.7 Ch.52 : Desire in the Viewfinder: Head of Department Takaba Akihito's Rose Colored Accomplishments

Apr 3, 2013

Finder Vol.7 Ch.51 : Desire in the Viewfinder: Hardworking Photographer Takaba Akihito's Summer Story

Mar 20, 2013

Finder Vol.7 Ch.50 : Desire in the Viewfinder: Takaba Akihito's Graceful Summer Holiday

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.7 Ch.49 : Desire in the Viewfinder: Pray in the Abyss 9

Apr 30, 2013

Finder Vol.7 Ch.48 : Desire in the Viewfinder: Pray in the Abyss 8

Mar 18, 2013

Finder Vol.7 Ch.47 : Desire in the Viewfinder: Pray in the Abyss 7

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.7 Ch.46 : Desire in the Viewfinder: Pray in the Abyss 6

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.7 Ch.45 : Desire in the Viewfinder: Pray in the Abyss 5

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.7 Ch.44 : Desire in the Viewfinder: Pray in the Abyss 4

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.7 Ch.43 : Desire in the Viewfinder: Pray in the Abyss 3

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.7 Ch.42 : Desire in the Viewfinder: Pray in the Abyss 2

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.7 Ch.41 : Desire in the Viewfinder: Pray in the Abyss 1

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.7 Ch.40 : Finder no Rakuin: Fei Long and Tao Extra

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.6 Ch.39 : Finder Series Extra 2- The Romantic Life of Service of Hard-working Photographer Takaba Akihito

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.6 Ch.38 : Finder Series Extra 1- Hard-working Photographer Takaba Akihito's Fulfilling Life as a Housewife

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.6 Ch.37 : Passion within the Viewfinder: Secretary's Duty

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.6 Ch.36 : Passion within the Viewfinder: Escape and Love 5

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.6 Ch.35 : Passion within the Viewfinder: Escape and Love 4

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.6 Ch.34 : Passion within the Viewfinder: Escape and Love 3

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.6 Ch.33 : Passion within the Viewfinder: Escape and Love 2

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.6 Ch.32 : Passion within the Viewfinder: Escape and Love 1

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.6 Ch.31 : Passion within the Viewfinder: Naked Truth Extra 2- Drowning in a Sea of Bloody Marys

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.5 Ch.30 : Truth in the Viewfinder: Naked Truth Extra 1- Temporary Paradise

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.5 Ch.29 : Truth in the Viewfinder: Naked Truth 18 [Hong Kong]

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.5 Ch.28 : Truth in the Viewfinder: Naked Truth 17 [Hong Kong]

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.5 Ch.27 : Truth in the Viewfinder: Naked Truth 16 [Hong Kong]

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.5 Ch.26 : Truth in the Viewfinder: Naked Truth 14 [Hong Kong]

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.5 Ch.25 : Truth in the Viewfinder: Naked Truth 15 [Hong Kong]

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.5 Ch.24 : Truth in the Viewfinder: Naked Truth 13 [Hong Kong

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.5 Ch.23 : Truth in the Viewfinder: Naked Truth Zero [Hong Kong] Extra Episode

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.4 Ch.22 : Prisoner in the Viewfinder: Extra- The Labor Cameraman Takaba's Wonderful Day

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.4 Ch.21 : Prisoner in the Viewfinder: Naked Truth 12 [Hong Kong]

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.4 Ch.20 : Prisoner in the Viewfinder: Naked Truth 11 [Hong Kong]

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.4 Ch.19 : Prisoner in the Viewfinder: Naked Truth 10 [Hong Kong]

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.4 Ch.18 : Prisoner in the Viewfinder: Naked Truth 9 [Hong Kong]

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.4 Ch.17 : Prisoner in the Viewfinder: Naked Truth 8 [Hong Kong]

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.4 Ch.16 : Prisoner in the Viewfinder: Naked Truth 7 [Hong Kong]

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.4 Ch.15 : Prisoner in the Viewfinder: Naked Truth 6 [Hong Kong]

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.3 Ch.14 : One Wing in the Viewfinder: Love Surprise

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.3 Ch.13 : One Wing in the Viewfinder: Naked Truth 5 [Tokyo]

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.3 Ch.12 : One Wing in the Viewfinder: Naked Truth 4 [Tokyo]

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.3 Ch.11 : One Wing in the Viewfinder: Naked Truth 3 [Tokyo]

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.3 Ch.10 : One Wing in the Viewfinder: Naked Truth 2 [Tokyo]

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.3 Ch.9 : One Wing in the Viewfinder: Naked Truth 1 [Tokyo]

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.2 Ch.8 : Cage in the Viewfinder: Flower on the High Loft 4

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.2 Ch.7 : Cage in the Viewfinder: Flower on the High Loft 3

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.2 Ch.6 : Cage in the Viewfinder: Flower on the High Loft 2

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.2 Ch.5 : Cage in the Viewfinder: Flower on the High Loft 1

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.2 Ch.4 : Cage in the Viewfinder: Bodychase

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.1 Ch.3 : Target in the Viewfinder: Embrace the Heat of the Night

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.1 Ch.2 : Target in the Viewfinder: Fixer

Feb 11, 2011

Finder Vol.1 Ch.1 : Target in the Viewfinder: You're my Love Prize in Viewfinder

Feb 11, 2011
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8614 Topics

  1. Anoni Grrl
    February 7, 2016 9:22 pm

    This is just for fun and speculation, so anyone can answer. We all know Aki can get into "street fights" (especially if he is defending someone) but Aki is also able to fight dirty:

    http://iweb6.mangapicgallery.com/imgfiles/koisuru_finder_no_hyouteki/1/046.png

    So where do you think Aki learned the "grab them by the balls" style of negotiation? As a delinquent? From his father's influence? From the dirty cop mentor? Or is this a panel missing from what Fei taught him?

    Of course, it's not in the story. Very little about Aki's past is--and what is there leaves room to speculate--so what do you think?

    • Anonymous February 7, 2016 9:47 pm

      I would like to think that Asami, recognising Akihito's ability to get into trouble at the drop of the hat, either paid for some self-defence lessons for him, or taught him himself.

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 7, 2016 10:05 pm
      I would like to think that Asami, recognising Akihito's ability to get into trouble at the drop of the hat, either paid for some self-defence lessons for him, or taught him himself. @Anonymous

      That would be fun to see. I would hope Asami taught Aki personally, if that happened. I can imagine the strategy lesson--whose balls you can grab and when, whose you can't and why, and the reasons why Asami's rather large jewels are safe (except perhaps metaphorically, and then they are only vulnerable to Aki).

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 7, 2016 10:06 pm
      That would be fun to see. I would hope Asami taught Aki personally, if that happened. I can imagine the strategy lesson--whose balls you can grab and when, whose you can't and why, and the reasons why Asami's r... Anoni Grrl

      Come to think of it, I can imagine Asami being called away from Aki's training and having Kirishima step in. That could be pretty funny.

    • Reality bites February 8, 2016 12:12 am

      Any of the men that got in trouble had to"train" with Takaba for four hours. he call went out for real balls, people came with baseballs and basketballs. they did not know they meant those kinds of balls. needless to say, there where less and less mistakes made. Suoh thought up the plan.

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 8, 2016 3:00 am
      Any of the men that got in trouble had to"train" with Takaba for four hours. he call went out for real balls, people came with baseballs and basketballs. they did not know they meant those kinds of balls. needl... @Reality bites

      Cute.

  2. Lady February 7, 2016 8:46 pm

    Sooooooo, does anybody know when this manga is slated to publish another chapter? Because I think I'm having withdrawal symptoms T.T

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 7, 2016 9:09 pm

      "28 April 2016 is the most likely date for the Japanese update of Pray in the Abyss; however, this has not been confirmed." I don't know whom I'm quoting. There is also an extra or something coming out in Japan at the end of this month.

  3. trishakiss
    February 7, 2016 7:31 pm

    Me everytime I read a new chapter: Asami is so fuckable. (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

  4. Fei Long's Novel February 7, 2016 5:00 am

    I would really love to read Fei Long's novel but there isn't an english translation! Can anyone at least summarize it for me? I've heard a lot about it, like Tao being Yan's son and Mikhail being in it and all that stuff. v3v

    • deliriumnight
      February 7, 2016 10:44 am

      Actually someone translate the novel, you can find it here:
      Feilong novel, Finder no Rakuin - you can find it on tumblr (feishuanghua dot tumblr dot com).

    • LadyLigeia February 7, 2016 10:14 pm

      That novel has a lot of important information as well as great and sexy moments too. :)

  5. Anonymous February 5, 2016 10:56 pm

    What's in the February special?


    Having looked at the bboy gold advert for the next edition, what it appears to say - and others better at Japanese may be more able to comment:

    Special booklet, finder series, read only here.

    And the contents seem to be:

    Yamane Ayano - long interview
    For a rainy day, Asami and Akihito dress up dolls
    Finder series special mini manga

    • Reality bites February 5, 2016 11:43 pm

      Thank you for the info.

    • Anon February 6, 2016 12:30 pm

      Thanks for the info! Mini manga... Hmm I wonder if it's not really an extra? :/ and what about dressing up dolls lol.

    • LadyLigeia February 6, 2016 2:59 pm
      Thanks for the info! Mini manga... Hmm I wonder if it's not really an extra? :/ and what about dressing up dolls lol. @Anon

      Mini manga? I'm really curious now. :)

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 6, 2016 3:59 pm
      Mini manga? I'm really curious now. :) @LadyLigeia

      An all chibi story? (Just kidding).

    • Lightasus February 6, 2016 4:22 pm

      I have a booklet of an extra at home (44.2). It's about 10 pages (whatever it takes to fit that one extra story) and the cover is paper thin, it's not what I'd call a "mini manga". It's just a format to hold one extra story, and there are actually a couple of them I never got hold of from the Finder series since they're only in the Japanese magazines (when I didn't buy them).

    • Lightasus February 6, 2016 4:26 pm

      They're actually the reason why some extras never released in English, as DMP doesn't seem interested in adapting those formats. The French limited editions actually include them (well only one out of two if the Japanese version had two limited editions, sadly).

    • Lightasus February 6, 2016 4:32 pm

      Actually it's basically some pages and some paper thin smooth cover bound together with some staplers. It actually looks better than what you'd imagine with that description, but yeah, booklets xD.

    • LadyLigeia February 6, 2016 8:12 pm
      An all chibi story? (Just kidding). Anoni Grrl

      I would like to see another threesome instead. This time with Mikhail, Sakazaki and Sudou (Sudou, obviously, in the middle) :)

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 6, 2016 9:19 pm
      I would like to see another threesome instead. This time with Mikhail, Sakazaki and Sudou (Sudou, obviously, in the middle) :) @LadyLigeia

      LOL...I might like that, but I think some people may be upset if there were no Asami and Aki moments.

    • J Unleashed February 6, 2016 10:39 pm
      They're actually the reason why some extras never released in English, as DMP doesn't seem interested in adapting those formats. The French limited editions actually include them (well only one out of two if th... Lightasus

      What extras have been released in the French editions that aren't in the English editions? Just curious (and I can't remember if I've asked this before). Three of the missing extras, Hard-Working Cameraman Akihito Takaba Romantic Life as an Indentured Servant (ch. 39),

    • J Unleashed February 6, 2016 10:50 pm
      What extras have been released in the French editions that aren't in the English editions? Just curious (and I can't remember if I've asked this before). Three of the missing extras, Hard-Working Cameraman Akih... J Unleashed

      (Prematurely hit enter :(
      Ch. 39, ch. 39, and ch. 50 are not available in English as a hard copy, but they are available in digital form (the translation is horrendous). One that is totally missing in English is the extra with Akihito tailing Asami, AS one of Fei Long's men tailS Akihito, followed by the episode where Asami finds the bread and juice hanging on his door.

      Btw, I am talking about volumes 1-7 (7 had three extras in it). I have no idea which extras will be in vol. 8.

      Also, I know Finder no Rakuin and the Finder Character Book were released in German. Were you so fortunate to get any of these in French?

    • LadyLigeia February 6, 2016 11:19 pm
      LOL...I might like that, but I think some people may be upset if there were no Asami and Aki moments. Anoni Grrl

      Maybe Aki dreaming about them? I have a strong imagination sometimes. :)

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 7, 2016 1:42 am
      Maybe Aki dreaming about them? I have a strong imagination sometimes. :) @LadyLigeia

      Sure--Aki could dream the threesome and te wake up and demand sex with Asami to get the image out of his head. :) Why not?

    • Anonymous February 7, 2016 2:34 am
      Maybe Aki dreaming about them? I have a strong imagination sometimes. :) @LadyLigeia

      Erm no thanks. Keep those weird pairings to your own fanfictions. No one wants to see that save you and maybe 2 or 3 others. What a weird idea.

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 7, 2016 2:52 am
      Erm no thanks. Keep those weird pairings to your own fanfictions. No one wants to see that save you and maybe 2 or 3 others. What a weird idea. @Anonymous

      Reading yaoi and then worrying about "weird" ideas seems like it might lead to cognitive dissonance.

    • Lightasus February 7, 2016 3:03 am
      (Prematurely hit enter :(Ch. 39, ch. 39, and ch. 50 are not available in English as a hard copy, but they are available in digital form (the translation is horrendous). One that is totally missing in English is... J Unleashed

      Can't find 54 on Amazon though (not sure why I said 44.2 earlier, the one I have is 54 xD), maybe I'm searching at the wrong place. The other one that was included in the Japanese limited version of Finder 7 was 53, that one too I don't see it. Though maybe it's a matter of time.

      Anyway, I never held much value to digital copies, you're literally paying them to rent them on whatever reader they're bound to unless they give you the pdf. For that I have respect for Sublime xD. But paper is MUCH better, at least here it's always high quality in that aspect.

      As for Finder no Rakuin, no, light novels are only beginning to break in France with SAO xD. Character books too haven't seen them around, though those I really don't mind aha.

    • Anonymous February 7, 2016 4:01 am
      Reading yaoi and then worrying about "weird" ideas seems like it might lead to cognitive dissonance. Anoni Grrl

      Are you implying there is no such thing as weird yaoi/yaoi ideas or plot points because all yaoi is weird?

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 7, 2016 4:35 am
      Are you implying there is no such thing as weird yaoi/yaoi ideas or plot points because all yaoi is weird? @Anonymous

      I'm just sayig....

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOijDxmNxIM

    • J Unleashed February 7, 2016 5:12 am
      Can't find 54 on Amazon though (not sure why I said 44.2 earlier, the one I have is 54 xD), maybe I'm searching at the wrong place. The other one that was included in the Japanese limited version of Finder 7 wa... Lightasus

      English VF 7 had ch. 50, 51, and 52 (I typo'd before-- Amazon's digital chapters are ch. 38, 39, and oddly enough, 50.) If ch. 53 is in the Japanese limited edition of Vol. 7, I'm guessing we won't see an English print version of it :(

      Maybe ch. 54 will be included in Vol. 8? Hopefully? (44.2 is the chapter number on both the file and link title... if you mouse over the link, you'll see "44.2"). So your booklet is in French? Lucky you. We don't even get color plates anymore.

      I don't like digital versions of manga at all, and it worries me that DMP has hinted that they want to release all their English translations this way.

      It baffles me DMP (Juné...?) isn't more serious about releasing VF in English. Here they just did another 1-7 series printing run and already they are either sold out, or on the verge of being sold out.

    • Anonymous February 7, 2016 5:34 am
      I'm just sayig....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOijDxmNxIM Anoni Grrl

      Yea so? That is a weird yaoi. There's plenty of normal ones too you know. Saying that worrying about weird ideas when reading yaoi is cognitive dissonance makes no sense at all. There's weird ideas in yaoi just like there are weird shoujo, shounen, yuri etc.

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 7, 2016 5:44 am
      Yea so? That is a weird yaoi. There's plenty of normal ones too you know. Saying that worrying about weird ideas when reading yaoi is cognitive dissonance makes no sense at all. There's weird ideas in yaoi just... @Anonymous

      Sigh. I just mean that weird is relative. Some people think all yaoi is weird. Some people think all manga are weird. Of course, I like weird.

    • Romanceisdead69
      February 7, 2016 11:56 am
      Sigh. I just mean that weird is relative. Some people think all yaoi is weird. Some people think all manga are weird. Of course, I like weird. Anoni Grrl

      So true!

    • LadyLigeia February 7, 2016 2:36 pm
      Sigh. I just mean that weird is relative. Some people think all yaoi is weird. Some people think all manga are weird. Of course, I like weird. Anoni Grrl

      Thanks for defending me. I consider "weird" stories those involving children and adults in sexual relationships and those with incest. For us westeners those stories involving children are considered as being pedophile.

    • LadyLigeia February 7, 2016 2:41 pm
      Erm no thanks. Keep those weird pairings to your own fanfictions. No one wants to see that save you and maybe 2 or 3 others. What a weird idea. @Anonymous

      Sometimes the more, the better. (For me is enough if the characters are all adult persons) :)

    • Anonymousalso February 7, 2016 3:29 pm

      Come on. You all know that by "weird," Anonymous meant within the context of the story, it would be weird for these three particular characters to suddenly hook up. I personally would need to see some major groundwork done to convince me that Sudou would let Sakazaki touch him in a sexual way, and as they are not the main focus of this story, I would prefer they not be given that much valuable real estate.

    • LadyLigeia February 7, 2016 3:45 pm
      Come on. You all know that by "weird," Anonymous meant within the context of the story, it would be weird for these three particular characters to suddenly hook up. I personally would need to see some major gro... @Anonymousalso

      Yes, I know that it would be completely out of context at this point of the story, but I would like to see something about the secondary characters too, even later in the future. :)

    • Romanceisdead69
      February 7, 2016 4:12 pm
      Yes, I know that it would be completely out of context at this point of the story, but I would like to see something about the secondary characters too, even later in the future. :) @LadyLigeia

      I also think Sakazaki and Mikhail are people I'd like to see more of…if you catch my drift! I don't know who I'd want to be in the 3p alongside them though…maybe Akihito :P - It doesn't matter if it's possible or not lol.

      But is anyone else wondering why Sudou was groping Akihito's naked ass in that Twitter post from Sensei? I worry it could end up being some crazy alternate play out of that scene 0_o

    • Lightasus February 7, 2016 4:21 pm
      English VF 7 had ch. 50, 51, and 52 (I typo'd before-- Amazon's digital chapters are ch. 38, 39, and oddly enough, 50.) If ch. 53 is in the Japanese limited edition of Vol. 7, I'm guessing we won't see an Engli... J Unleashed

      Well both 53 and 54 were in the limited Japanese editions. 54 in the standard and Amazon's limited edition, and 53 in the Animate limited edition. So I guess it's natural that in France we got 54.
      Anyway, they're there: http://yamaneayano.com/books/ja/135

      They have those at every manga release since Finder 6 it seems, so I believe the extra we're awaiting this month will be the one included with Finder 8. Finder 6 limited edition had the threesome extra if my memory serves me right, however at its release I wasn't a fan yet so I missed it u_u.

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 7, 2016 4:24 pm
      Come on. You all know that by "weird," Anonymous meant within the context of the story, it would be weird for these three particular characters to suddenly hook up. I personally would need to see some major gro... @Anonymousalso

      It would be a bit sudden--but I think maybe that's why it was presented in the context of a dream. But no one thinks YA is sitting by her laptop writing down what people post here anyway. It wasn't serious.

      I took "What a weird idea." and "No one wants to see that..." to mean "Your kink is weird." It one thing to think it would not fit the plot, and quite another to implicitly kink-shame someone. Threesomes aren't my personal thing either, but it's not weird. An entire generation was raised in a world where tentacle porn no longer raises an eyebrow--the standards for weird have shifted.

    • LadyLigeia February 7, 2016 5:10 pm
      I also think Sakazaki and Mikhail are people I'd like to see more of…if you catch my drift! I don't know who I'd want to be in the 3p alongside them though…maybe Akihito :P - It doesn't matter if it's possi... Romanceisdead69

      Yes, I'm wondering about the same Twitter post too. :)

  6. tskino_usagi
    February 5, 2016 7:06 pm

    i wonder how aki was in high school?was he a wannabe delinquent? I imagine sometimes the story going like aki, first year high school student in an all boys high school with asami as the dean. heh heh naughty studentxprinciple relationship ugh sensei when will the next chapter come out ╥﹏╥

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 5, 2016 8:44 pm

      Aki seems so good natured--it's hard to imagine him being a bully or mugging someone. I suspect what he did was hang around with the wrong crowd, skip class, and party maybe. I could see trespassing and being places he shouldn't too.

    • tskino_usagi
      February 5, 2016 10:16 pm
      Aki seems so good natured--it's hard to imagine him being a bully or mugging someone. I suspect what he did was hang around with the wrong crowd, skip class, and party maybe. I could see trespassing and being p... Anoni Grrl

      that's what I meant by wannabe delinquent. aki seems like he could tell from what is right from wrong. he just goes with the flow, but sometimes i guess he wants to act "badass"(example he tries to intimidate asami)but deep down hes very genuine

    • puppieluver0 February 7, 2016 4:52 am
      that's what I meant by wannabe delinquent. aki seems like he could tell from what is right from wrong. he just goes with the flow, but sometimes i guess he wants to act "badass"(example he tries to intimidate a... tskino_usagi

      Didn't it say earlier in the manga that Akihito was kinda estranged as a teemager. I'm not sure if this counts as being a dilinquant though lol. Then it says that his father took him under his wing and introduced him to photography. So maybe this whole Aki as a dilinquant thing is canon hehe

    • tskino_usagi
      February 7, 2016 5:42 am
      Didn't it say earlier in the manga that Akihito was kinda estranged as a teemager. I'm not sure if this counts as being a dilinquant though lol. Then it says that his father took him under his wing and introduc... puppieluver0

      i feel like we should get an inside in aki's and asami's past but i just picture aki as a not so tough delinquent. I always thought he was disowned by his parents i mean didn't that courupt cop take aki underneath his wing?

    • Anonymous February 7, 2016 3:25 pm
      i feel like we should get an inside in aki's and asami's past but i just picture aki as a not so tough delinquent. I always thought he was disowned by his parents i mean didn't that courupt cop take aki underne... tskino_usagi

      No, he wasn't disowned by his parents. He met the cop during his delinquent period and the cop took an interest in him and became a mentor, not an adoptive parent. You don't have to be disowned by your parents to have another adult take an interest in your well-being.

    • tskino_usagi
      February 7, 2016 3:47 pm
      No, he wasn't disowned by his parents. He met the cop during his delinquent period and the cop took an interest in him and became a mentor, not an adoptive parent. You don't have to be disowned by your parents ... @Anonymous

      true, i just forgot since its bern so long since i read viewfinder.

    • Anonymous February 7, 2016 6:00 pm
      Didn't it say earlier in the manga that Akihito was kinda estranged as a teemager. I'm not sure if this counts as being a dilinquant though lol. Then it says that his father took him under his wing and introduc... puppieluver0

      No maybe. It is canon. Scroll to the first paragraph at the bottom of the page for the end to all of this speculation:

      http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/finder_character_book/uu/finder_character_book-chapter-1/5/

    • puppieluver0 February 8, 2016 2:40 am
      No maybe. It is canon. Scroll to the first paragraph at the bottom of the page for the end to all of this speculation:http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/finder_character_book/uu/finder_character_book-chapter-1/5/ @Anonymous

      Hooray! I remembered reading it, but I didn't want someone to be like "no, you fool, it says such and such on page x" lol

  7. lurei February 5, 2016 9:55 am

    you know a manga is good when it hasnt been updated since july of last year and probably wont be updated till around april yet its still all ways on the top 5 of the day/week/month/etc lists (▰˘◡˘▰) i cant think of a single manga ive read and reread as many times as i have this one lol

  8. ... February 4, 2016 10:31 am

    I have a question - does anyone know if Yoh is Chinese or Japanese? I don't think it's ever mentioned...I was wondering because although he is (or was) one of Asami's men, wouldn't him being Japanese have made Feilong suspicious towards him already when they met? I mean, wouldn't he have suspected a connection after what happened? Then again, I think "Yoh" is a Japanese name, but I'm not sure about it.

    • anon February 4, 2016 10:36 am

      I think it's said in the novel that he is the son of Fei Longs adopted brother, in which case he us Chinese.

    • Nightfall February 4, 2016 11:07 am

      I believe he is Japanese - he was Asami's employee and Asami offered to bring Yoh home (to Japan I assume) and Yoh helped Fei in prison which helped him earn Fei's trust - despite being Japanese.

    • Anonymous February 4, 2016 12:19 pm

      Yoh is Taiwanese. He returns to Taiwan after the events in volume 5.

    • LadyLigeia February 4, 2016 2:25 pm
      I think it's said in the novel that he is the son of Fei Longs adopted brother, in which case he us Chinese. @anon

      I think that you are talking about Tao (the kid). :)

    • J February 5, 2016 2:44 pm

      葉(Yoh) is a common family name of Chinese. He might be Taiwanese or Korean, but definitely isn't Japanese.
      Remember a man in "Flower on the high loft". He was a high ranked cop or something of HongKong and he told Asami that he would do anything for him, so Asami might have his men or accomplices all over Asia. Yoh was one of them I think, but highly trusted and trained one.

    • LadyLigeia February 5, 2016 3:39 pm
      葉(Yoh) is a common family name of Chinese. He might be Taiwanese or Korean, but definitely isn't Japanese.Remember a man in "Flower on the high loft". He was a high ranked cop or something of HongKong and he ... @J

      Yes, it's a chinese name. The only thing tha isn't clear is where he met Asami the first time (Hong Kong, Japan? - Yoh speaks japanese very well)

    • Anonymous February 7, 2016 4:54 am
      I think it's said in the novel that he is the son of Fei Longs adopted brother, in which case he us Chinese. @anon

      Tao is Yan Tsui's son?

    • LadyLigeia February 7, 2016 6:22 pm
      Tao is Yan Tsui's son? @Anonymous

      Yes, he is. The way the poor boy discovers who his father is almost make me cry. :(

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 8, 2016 3:04 am
      Yes, he is. The way the poor boy discovers who his father is almost make me cry. :( @LadyLigeia

      Yes. In a way, it almost echos Fei's biodad's sentiments, but Tao is younger and hi dad was worse.

  9. Romanceisdead69
    February 3, 2016 11:41 pm

    I'm not sure how you guys will take this - it's not an insult to Sensei or anything, just meant as a bit of fun!!!!!!! - But does anyone have their LEAST favourite Viewfinder frame or moment? Like something that just made you go 'wha-?' 'HUH?!'

    I know this manga is great for it's lack of 'Yaoi hands' etc unlike some others but it's true there must be at least one weird thing for everyone, right?

    I'll start off with mine: http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v01/c001/35/ - Just how long is Asami's face on the bottom of this page! (Like so…)

    Again, is only meant as a bit of a joke - we all know we love this manga x

    • J Unleashed February 4, 2016 12:19 am

      THIS ONE THIS ONE:
      http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v03/c014/14/

      A witchdoctor shrank poor Asami's head :(

    • Anonymous February 4, 2016 2:43 am

      The ones with Akihito giving Sakazaki a blowjob :( why Aki :( my poor baby Aki have to suffer that.

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 4, 2016 3:07 am

      I need two links to show mine. First, Aki is just about spilling coffee on Asami's lap:

      http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v08/c050/6/

      And then, Asami pulls Aki into his lap:

      http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v08/c050/7/

      What did Asami do? Grab the coffee and then pull Aki? Spill the coffee and ignore it? Sue Aki for burning his lap with coffee?

    • I=stupid
      February 4, 2016 4:06 am

      The bottom scene looks really weird to me, the proportions seem off:
      http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v05/c030.1/8/

    • Romanceisdead69
      February 4, 2016 7:28 am
      THIS ONE THIS ONE: http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v03/c014/14/ A witchdoctor shrank poor Asami's head :( J Unleashed

      Ahahahahahahaha!!!!! Yes that's a gem! Would that be considered a Yaoi head? Or Yaoi body?

    • Romanceisdead69
      February 4, 2016 7:31 am
      I need two links to show mine. First, Aki is just about spilling coffee on Asami's lap:http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v08/c050/6/And then, Asami pulls Aki into his lap:htt... Anoni Grrl

      Oh Anoni girl, did you not know about Akihito's vaporising powers?

    • Anonymous February 4, 2016 7:32 am

      Akihito's first sighting of Asami:

      http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v01/c001/4/

      Those are some shoulder pads you've got there Asami

    • Romanceisdead69
      February 4, 2016 7:41 am
      The bottom scene looks really weird to me, the proportions seem off:http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v05/c030.1/8/ I=stupid

      That's a Yaoi bed if I've ever seen one! (≧∀≦)

    • J Unleashed February 4, 2016 7:41 am
      Ahahahahahahaha!!!!! Yes that's a gem! Would that be considered a Yaoi head? Or Yaoi body? Romanceisdead69

      Umm...

      I'd rather discuss Asami's Yaoi penis. Which offends me not in the least.

      (First frame, obviously):
      http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v07/c043.1/17/

    • Romanceisdead69
      February 4, 2016 7:45 am
      Akihito's first sighting of Asami: http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v01/c001/4/Those are some shoulder pads you've got there Asami @Anonymous

      Ooh!!! You could fit a small family on those shoulders. I raise you Akihito's freakishly huge shoulder in the first frame:

      http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v02/c008/14/

    • Romanceisdead69
      February 4, 2016 7:51 am
      Umm... I'd rather discuss Asami's Yaoi penis. Which offends me not in the least. (First frame, obviously): http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v07/c043.1/17/ J Unleashed

      Ab-so-lutely! The penis in the second frame to me is a work of utter art, the penis in the first frame however *shivers* - makes me a bit (A LOT!) squeamish (⊙…⊙ ) it looks like it's its own living entity, independent from Asami somehow and freaking GINORMOUS!!!

    • Anonymous February 4, 2016 7:57 am
      Ooh!!! You could fit a small family on those shoulders. I raise you Akihito's freakishly huge shoulder in the first frame:http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v02/c008/14/ Romanceisdead69

      Haha - I can sorrrt of justify that to myself as Akihito wearing a cheap, poorly fitting suit, perhaps borrowed, but Asami has his clothes tailored to fit. By comparison, this is a reference shot of Daniel Craig in his dinner jacket in Casino Royale, the Bond film where he famously wondered out of the sea in a pair of little blue trunks and was very well built.

      Well built, real man in suit: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v409/xshellofamanx/AffordableBond/CR_0742-1.jpg

      Asami in suit: http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v01/c001/4/

      I know manga doesn't aim to be hyper-realistic, but I can't get over the angle of Asami's shoulder seams!

    • Anonymous February 4, 2016 8:02 am
      Umm... I'd rather discuss Asami's Yaoi penis. Which offends me not in the least. (First frame, obviously): http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v07/c043.1/17/ J Unleashed

      I handwave Asami's, ahem, proportions in that special to myself as:

      1) The harness restricts blood flow and makes him larger than normal and
      2) he really does find being tied up by Akihito very exciting.

      Otherwise they just make me boggle.

    • Anonymous February 4, 2016 8:11 am
      Ab-so-lutely! The penis in the second frame to me is a work of utter art, the penis in the first frame however *shivers* - makes me a bit (A LOT!) squeamish (⊙…⊙ ) it looks like it's its own living entity... Romanceisdead69

      I'm here because of the penis reference.i am not disappointed.
      Thank you.

    • Romanceisdead69
      February 4, 2016 8:53 am
      I handwave Asami's, ahem, proportions in that special to myself as:1) The harness restricts blood flow and makes him larger than normal and2) he really does find being tied up by Akihito very exciting.Otherwise... @Anonymous

      It's just so um, fleshy….

    • Nightfall February 4, 2016 11:08 am

      Quite a few times the noses of the characters disappear - which is quite funny (I am aware that it is an illustrators shortcut but it amuses me)

    • J Unleashed February 4, 2016 3:07 pm
      I handwave Asami's, ahem, proportions in that special to myself as:1) The harness restricts blood flow and makes him larger than normal and2) he really does find being tied up by Akihito very exciting.Otherwise... @Anonymous

      Or: 3) Akihito is still dreaming.

      Naughty Akihito. (づ˘ ³˘)づ

    • LadyLigeia February 4, 2016 3:27 pm
      The ones with Akihito giving Sakazaki a blowjob :( why Aki :( my poor baby Aki have to suffer that. @Anonymous

      I was thinking about the same thing, because in those frames Sakazaki didn't restrain himself in any way and clearly (in my opinion) tried to humiliate Takaba.

    • J Unleashed February 4, 2016 3:53 pm
      Quite a few times the noses of the characters disappear - which is quite funny (I am aware that it is an illustrators shortcut but it amuses me) @Nightfall

      They look cute without noses... except when they accidentally morph into a wacky alien right after:
      http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v07/c045/10/

    • Romanceisdead69
      February 4, 2016 5:55 pm
      They look cute without noses... except when they accidentally morph into a wacky alien right after: http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v07/c045/10/ J Unleashed

      I love any character in Chibi form, though Asami in Chibi form just seems wrong!

      http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v06/c035.3/14/

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 4, 2016 7:58 pm
      Quite a few times the noses of the characters disappear - which is quite funny (I am aware that it is an illustrators shortcut but it amuses me) @Nightfall

      That it kind of reminds me of the way they sometimes erase penises or make those glowy lightsaber replacement phalluses*. So an anus may be drawn with all the detail of a blooming chrysanthemum, but noses and penises are too much for our gentle sensibilities.

      Latin scholars, is the plural of phallus phalluses or phalla?

    • Anonymous February 4, 2016 8:14 pm
      That it kind of reminds me of the way they sometimes erase penises or make those glowy lightsaber replacement phalluses*. So an anus may be drawn with all the detail of a blooming chrysanthemum, but noses and p... Anoni Grrl

      I'm not much of a Latin scholar, but I think it would have to be phalli. Although phalluses might work as well as a lower register variant.

      Gotta love this kind of discussion. ^^

    • Anonymous February 4, 2016 8:18 pm
      I'm not much of a Latin scholar, but I think it would have to be phalli. Although phalluses might work as well as a lower register variant.Gotta love this kind of discussion. ^^ @Anonymous

      Was just going to ay the same thing - it is late latin so either works as grammatical rules started to erode in the 5-6th century. Interestingly - they used to call it lignum - which translates as wood/wand/tree.

    • Nightfall February 4, 2016 8:22 pm
      They look cute without noses... except when they accidentally morph into a wacky alien right after: http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v07/c045/10/ J Unleashed

      True, the alien look is pretty funny. There are also images where things like eyes disappear 'cast in shadow' but the shadow is never dark enough for that loss of detail. (reminds me of Kisuke in Bleach - how often did his eyes show when he wore that hat ...)

    • Romanceisdead69
      February 4, 2016 9:12 pm
      That it kind of reminds me of the way they sometimes erase penises or make those glowy lightsaber replacement phalluses*. So an anus may be drawn with all the detail of a blooming chrysanthemum, but noses and p... Anoni Grrl

      This made me LOL so hard "Latin scholars, is the plural of phallus phalluses or phalla?" - those dirty Yaoi reading Latin Scholars! *perverted laughter*

    • J Unleashed February 4, 2016 9:49 pm
      That it kind of reminds me of the way they sometimes erase penises or make those glowy lightsaber replacement phalluses*. So an anus may be drawn with all the detail of a blooming chrysanthemum, but noses and p... Anoni Grrl

      Yes, Asami's missing penis is... disturbing.
      http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v07/c039/18/

      In this case, the plural form would be "fallacies".

    • Romanceisdead69
      February 4, 2016 9:56 pm
      Yes, Asami's missing penis is... disturbing. http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v07/c039/18/ In this case, the plural form would be "fallacies". J Unleashed

      Hmmmm, I'd go for another 'D' word in this case (< not sure if there's a penis pun in there somewhere)
      - I'd say Asami's missing penis on this page is…Disappointing >_< That's one thing I hate about Yaoi, it's like 'hey, we all know what's going on here! We might as well see it!!!!'

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 4, 2016 11:41 pm
      This made me LOL so hard "Latin scholars, is the plural of phallus phalluses or phalla?" - those dirty Yaoi reading Latin Scholars! *perverted laughter* Romanceisdead69

      My impression of Latin scholars is that they go around making dirty jokes no one else can understand. Some may be reading Summa Theologica, but the rest are looking for ancient Roman porn. I would not be at all surprised to see them here snickering. When you see a Latin translation of 10 Count hit the Net, you'll know I am right (and that some scantaltor found a sort of loophole).

    • Anonymous February 4, 2016 11:47 pm
      My impression of Latin scholars is that they go around making dirty jokes no one else can understand. Some may be reading Summa Theologica, but the rest are looking for ancient Roman porn. I would not be at all... Anoni Grrl

      I love making dirt jokes in Latin, and I had a lovely teacher who taught us how to order fries and a burger, to say "beam me up Scotty" and brought in Asterix and Obelix (in Latin) for us to watch and assigned Winnie the Pooh (Winnie ille Pooh) for homework translations!

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 5, 2016 12:32 am
      I love making dirt jokes in Latin, and I had a lovely teacher who taught us how to order fries and a burger, to say "beam me up Scotty" and brought in Asterix and Obelix (in Latin) for us to watch and assigned ... @Anonymous

      See there? Latin scholars reading yaoi. And Winnie Ile Pooh. Hopefully not on the same host site. If there are Winnie the Pooh DJs, I don't want to know about it.

      or...

      Maybe I do?

      Would it be wrong to ship Tigger and Rabbit?

    • Anonymous February 5, 2016 8:36 am
      See there? Latin scholars reading yaoi. And Winnie Ile Pooh. Hopefully not on the same host site. If there are Winnie the Pooh DJs, I don't want to know about it.or...Maybe I do?Would it be wrong to ship Tigger... Anoni Grrl

      Nope - have not seen Pooh dj and hope I never do! Eeek! And for you to ship Tigger and Rabbit shows that you have a sick, sick mind too flooded with yaoi ... erm, actually, I think I could almost see ... nope! Wreck my childlike innocence - I now need bleach for my eyes and something fluffy, like Attack on Titan.

    • lurei February 5, 2016 10:14 am
      See there? Latin scholars reading yaoi. And Winnie Ile Pooh. Hopefully not on the same host site. If there are Winnie the Pooh DJs, I don't want to know about it.or...Maybe I do?Would it be wrong to ship Tigger... Anoni Grrl

      1. You need Jesus

      but also:

      2. Lmfao

      and have you considered:

      3. Tigger and Piglet

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 5, 2016 5:09 pm
      1. You need Jesusbut also:2. Lmfaoand have you considered:3. Tigger and Piglet @lurei

      Well, now that I think about it, isn't Kanga the only female in the Hundred Acred Woods? And the rest is all about dripping honey and getting stuck in holes and such.

    • I=stupid
      February 5, 2016 5:46 pm
      Well, now that I think about it, isn't Kanga the only female in the Hundred Acred Woods? And the rest is all about dripping honey and getting stuck in holes and such. Anoni Grrl

      noooooo!!!!! Stop! my childhood...

    • Anonymous February 5, 2016 6:04 pm

      I know I'm late but...look at their arms in the first panel. *shudders*

      http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v02/c007/10/

    • Anonymous February 5, 2016 7:01 pm
      I know I'm late but...look at their arms in the first panel. *shudders*http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v02/c007/10/ @Anonymous

      Oh, that's not right...

    • Sammy
      February 7, 2016 4:58 am
      I need two links to show mine. First, Aki is just about spilling coffee on Asami's lap:http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v08/c050/6/And then, Asami pulls Aki into his lap:htt... Anoni Grrl

      I never notice that before

    • Sammy
      February 7, 2016 5:07 am
      Umm... I'd rather discuss Asami's Yaoi penis. Which offends me not in the least. (First frame, obviously): http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v07/c043.1/17/ J Unleashed

      I'm offened by it either. I love the next frame way bigger than Akihito's head

    • Sammy
      February 7, 2016 5:35 am

      My least favorite moment is when Asami leavs Akihito at the hotel to meet that guy who was fleeing fei

      http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v03/c010/19/

    • J Unleashed February 7, 2016 5:58 am
      I'm offened by it either. I love the next frame way bigger than Akihito's head Sammy

      Heh... he also has a pair of sizable cajones.

      But we already knew that ;)

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 7, 2016 6:48 am
      My least favorite moment is when Asami leavs Akihito at the hotel to meet that guy who was fleeing feihttp://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v03/c010/19/ Sammy

      Yeah, Mr. "I have places to be" could have at least left a guard.

    • Romanceisdead69
      February 7, 2016 11:58 am
      Yeah, Mr. "I have places to be" could have at least left a guard. Anoni Grrl

      Oh haha I always thought 'awww isn't he so cute for tucking Akihito in' - but then I'm like 'um Asami, if he sleeps in that wet towel he's going to catch a cold!' - http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v03/c010/20/

      yes my interpretation of that scene is a little different ^^'

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 7, 2016 2:39 pm
      Oh haha I always thought 'awww isn't he so cute for tucking Akihito in' - but then I'm like 'um Asami, if he sleeps in that wet towel he's going to catch a cold!' - http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_lo... Romanceisdead69

      LOL. I forgot the towel was wet.

    • Anonymous February 7, 2016 6:01 pm
      Yeah, Mr. "I have places to be" could have at least left a guard. Anoni Grrl

      Nice to see you've come around on this. You argued against the idea a few months ago.

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 8, 2016 3:10 am
      Nice to see you've come around on this. You argued against the idea a few months ago. @Anonymous

      A few months ago, I forgot that point momentarily. I admitted it later in the same thread. It didn't change the original point I was making at that time, but think what you want to think.

  10. Aito Tanaka
    February 3, 2016 10:31 pm

    O.o When is this going to update? It's almost been a whole year! Do any of you VF fans out there know where the next chapter is? Maybe in a different site? If you do know, Thanks (=・ω・=)

    • Anonymous February 3, 2016 10:41 pm

      28 April 2016 is the most likely date for the Japanese update of Pray in the Abyss, however this has not been confirmed.

    • Aito Tanaka
      February 3, 2016 11:40 pm

      O.o so loooonnnnnggggg.....
      anyway, thanks for your reply!

  11. Question February 3, 2016 11:39 am

    I am not sure myself that is why I'm fishing for your opinions. What level of education would you say aki completed?

    • reiko February 3, 2016 1:15 pm

      I think he graduated from university. his friends both have good jobs that need qualifications so I think it's likely that Aki met them while he was at university too

    • Hanne February 3, 2016 2:38 pm
      I think he graduated from university. his friends both have good jobs that need qualifications so I think it's likely that Aki met them while he was at university too @reiko

      He probably did - most professional photographers need a university degree (I have one myself) and Akihito was new to the profession at the beginning of the manga and was 23 years old - a four year degree would fit that king of time frame

    • Anonymous February 4, 2016 2:49 am

      Since the manga is old...i mean it startesd something like 15 yeara ago...i dont think ab university degree was required in japan in order to be a freelance photographer.

    • Romanceisdead69
      February 4, 2016 8:58 am

      I think Akihito barely made it through school (because of his delinquent ways, and got his first scoop/job through Yamazaki and selling that scoop to the paper.

    • Anonymous February 4, 2016 9:14 am
      I think Akihito barely made it through school (because of his delinquent ways, and got his first scoop/job through Yamazaki and selling that scoop to the paper. Romanceisdead69

      Um, you need at least some education to become a photojournalist. Most papers will not hire someone who has not been taught. Aki has his own darkroom, SLR cameras and knowledge of lighting/film and how to catch a good image, and you need some classes for that. I took photography classes for four years, so I know how competitive the journalism industry is, you do not get steady work without the proper know-how and that is very hard to teach yourself, even if someone hands you a scoop.

    • Nightfall February 4, 2016 11:15 am
      I think Akihito barely made it through school (because of his delinquent ways, and got his first scoop/job through Yamazaki and selling that scoop to the paper. Romanceisdead69

      I am sure that he needs some photography classes - my friend is a fashion photographer and it took four years of intense training at a University to attain her skills, as you need to know what kind of film to use, how to use lighting and framing to best advantage, how to process and develop film/photos (Aki does his own) and how to compose images to best effect. A photojournalist will also need writing/joutnalism classes (even if they don't write stories - though many professionals do) and a photographer would not be able to have a career or repeat business based on one scoop - the field is very competitive. This info comes from conversations with a professional photographer)

    • Romanceisdead69
      February 4, 2016 6:00 pm
      Um, you need at least some education to become a photojournalist. Most papers will not hire someone who has not been taught. Aki has his own darkroom, SLR cameras and knowledge of lighting/film and how to catch... @Anonymous

      There is a device in the performing arts world - 'suspension of disbelief.' This means that Asami can be a badass businessman who speaks 50 languages and shoots people without ramifications, or that Akihito can be a photographer without a degree…and get caught up in black market stuff, and triad stuff etc etc……..it's possible for Akihito.

    • Romanceisdead69
      February 4, 2016 6:01 pm
      I am sure that he needs some photography classes - my friend is a fashion photographer and it took four years of intense training at a University to attain her skills, as you need to know what kind of film to u... @Nightfall

      It is completely possible to be self taught however, this is an alternate universe anyway so ordinary rules don't apply…

      It's what 'I think' anyway, I didn't present it as fact.

    • Reality bites February 4, 2016 6:50 pm

      I thought Takaba's father was also a photographer. Would he not have learned from him? He dotes on a camera his father gave him. When we meet Takaba he is working freelance , selling what he can to who he can. Romance is about having to suspend belief . If Takaba was developing film in that small apart. , he would have passed out. hahahaha.

    • J Unleashed February 4, 2016 8:46 pm

      Sensei has never listed university education for Akihito. In character profiles, she always states Asami's educational background (highest level, Master's degree), but nothing for Akihito in this regard. Because of this omission, I think it can be assumed that Akihito did not attend university.

      Akihito was set on becoming a photographer after graduating high school. According to Sensei, he is not self-taught but received training from a photography teacher.

      [Ref: http://view.thespectrum.net/series/youre-my-love-prize-in-viewfinder.html?ch=Volume+5&page=195 ]

    • Anonymous February 4, 2016 10:13 pm

      Y'all are taking the concept of "suspension of disbelief" a little too literally and too far. It doesn't give the creator complete license to disregard reality, but in fact states that the creator must ground the work in a semblance of reality that the audience recognizes to a sufficient extent that they are then willing to suspend their suspicion of the unreality of the work--which they know full well to be unreal.

      Asami can speak 50 languages and we believe it because we've been told he has an advanced degree and is highly intelligent. Akihito has sufficient background and training laid out by the author to ground his stated profession in reality. No great leaps of poetic faith required.

      The original quote by Samuel Taylor Cooleridge: "It was agreed, that my endeavours should be directed to persons and characters supernatural, or at least romantic, yet so as to transfer from our inward nature a human interest and a semblance of truth sufficient to procure for these shadows of imagination that willing suspension of disbelief for the moment, which constitutes poetic faith."

    • Romanceisdead69
      February 4, 2016 11:40 pm
      Y'all are taking the concept of "suspension of disbelief" a little too literally and too far. It doesn't give the creator complete license to disregard reality, but in fact states that the creator must ground t... @Anonymous

      Oh god I'm having University flashbacks!

      Sensei can do what the hell she likes anyway, it's her baby :P

    • Anonymous February 5, 2016 1:32 am
      Oh god I'm having University flashbacks! Sensei can do what the hell she likes anyway, it's her baby :P Romanceisdead69

      Anybody may do as they like, but that doesn't mean the result will be successful. Sensei understands the rules and gives the information necessary to create the proper suspension of disbelief. She is a skilled storyteller.

    • Romanceisdead69
      February 5, 2016 7:30 am
      Anybody may do as they like, but that doesn't mean the result will be successful. Sensei understands the rules and gives the information necessary to create the proper suspension of disbelief. She is a skilled ... @Anonymous

      LOL I'm really not arguing against that point though am I. I know, that's why I read it.

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 8, 2016 3:22 am

      Although a university degree is preferred and opens more doors, someone could get low-level freelance jobs without a degree, especially if he had training with a known photographer and his dad's name opened doors. I would not have to suspend much disbelief to accept that Aki might not have a degree.

    • Lightasus February 8, 2016 5:49 am

      Akihito is only freelance, and he had a teacher to teach him most stuff, on top of having a father right in the industry... From what I understand he basically takes photos and the guy pays him for them or not if he doesn't like them.

      I kind of don't really doubt it, aha. My own experience tells me it's quite possible, it's not like he's an aspiring lawyer :L

      I mean, I just found this:
      In the end, I decided that if what I really wanted was to do amazing work and eventually get hired in the field, I could instead build my own graduate photojournalism program.
      And that's exactly what I did. I attended the Missouri Photo Workshop. I flew to Moscow, Russia and worked for the Moscow Times and did an assignment or two for Paris Match. I took a lighting course. I freelanced as much as possible. And guess what? In 13 months' time (or the end of what would have been my first year in graduate school) I became chief photographer at the Provo (UT) Daily Herald, a 30, 000 circulation daily in one of the prettiest spots to live, anywhere. It cost me a fraction of the money a graduate degree would have. I was able to make enough money to pay off all my student loans and buy a new car not long after. It also started me on a career that took me to other newspapers litterally from coast to coast--papers where I was in charge of hiring photographers who had made the decision to go back to school to get graduate degrees in photojournalism.

      How I got my own job in the VFX industry was in a quite similar fashion... By self-teaching (LOTS of self-teaching) and putting myself out there with some volunteering work and developing amicable relationships with people from the industry (at bars and stuff, getting to know where they hang out is great intel xD) etc. Certainly not the standard way, but surely the one that worked for me. Got in there in less than a year...

    • Lightasus February 8, 2016 6:07 am
      Since the manga is old...i mean it startesd something like 15 yeara ago...i dont think ab university degree was required in japan in order to be a freelance photographer. @Anonymous

      And this, probably xD

    • Reality bites February 8, 2016 8:55 am

      Light. Kudos to you. Doubly so. there are many ways to get where you want to go. Very impressive. Not to compare you to an manga charac. but I can see Takaba doing the same thing. He is going to do it his way, learn on the run. Thanks foe sharing. Very interesting.

  12. yukikun
    February 3, 2016 12:50 am

    does anyone know of any fujoshi groups on whatsapp or Line?

  13. Anonymously February 2, 2016 12:05 pm

    I am glad it almost near for the Extra, but eager for the continuation of the next chapter and to know, to see what in the world going on with chapter 54. Look at it this way, at least we have something new to talk about until then.

    • lurei February 5, 2016 10:18 am

      whens the rumoured date for the extra?? is it confirmed or??

    • Anonymous February 5, 2016 7:00 pm

      The next edition of Bboy gold released 27 Feb 16 will have a cover by Yamane Ayano and a commemorative booklet. What's in the booklet - we don't know.

      http://www.b-boy.jp/next/

  14. Sammy
    February 2, 2016 1:44 am

    happy birthday Fei

    • LadyLigeia February 2, 2016 1:24 pm

      :) :)

    • Anonymous February 2, 2016 5:20 pm

    • Aoki Kurokawa February 3, 2016 12:08 pm

      Happy birthday Feilong-sama (● ̄(エ) ̄●). Ask Tao to make you a birthcake.

    • Hanne February 3, 2016 2:39 pm

      He was born on groundhog day???

    • Anonymous February 3, 2016 4:03 pm
      He was born on groundhog day??? Hanne

      Lmao that'd be great :D I think he was born January 1st though...

    • Sammy
      February 3, 2016 5:46 pm
      He was born on groundhog day??? Hanne

      Nope the first of February

  15. Anonymous February 2, 2016 1:03 am

    Yamane Ayano deserve a million prizes for the sex scenes.

  16. Anonymously February 1, 2016 1:22 pm

    My post is create to have fun with please do so. I assume everyone know all the characters in here well or pre well. Choose one character and describe his character in a few words or more if you like. Asami character to me is like a hard candy in the surface, but the same time sweet and creamy inside.

    • Anonymously February 1, 2016 1:27 pm

      Sorry, disregard the surface.

    • LadyLigeia February 1, 2016 4:01 pm

      If Finder was a more "traditional" story, Fei Long would be the classic dark lady of noir novels: seductive, beautiful, tragic, cruel and misunderstood. The kind of character that I like the most. Even my nickname talks about that. :)

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 1, 2016 6:37 pm
      If Finder was a more "traditional" story, Fei Long would be the classic dark lady of noir novels: seductive, beautiful, tragic, cruel and misunderstood. The kind of character that I like the most. Even my nickn... @LadyLigeia

      I like that. I can image Sam Spade saying, "I knew the dame was trouble when she sauntered in."

    • LadyLigeia February 1, 2016 9:23 pm
      I like that. I can image Sam Spade saying, "I knew the dame was trouble when she sauntered in." Anoni Grrl

      Yes! :)

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 1, 2016 9:54 pm

      I think Aki is like a long island ice tea--a drink that looks harmless and sweet, but that has a surprising combination of ingredients that can sneak up on you and kick you ass.

    • Reality bites February 1, 2016 11:36 pm

      'Sam play that song one more time.you know the one ." No boss Yoh , no. . As Feilon struts out the door. like that Lady.

    • Reality bites February 1, 2016 11:44 pm

      wrong film Lady L. Casbalanca ref. still like your view of Fei and your view of Takaba Anoni.

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 2, 2016 12:23 am
      wrong film Lady L. Casbalanca ref. still like your view of Fei and your view of Takaba Anoni. @Reality bites

      "If that plane leaves and you're not with Tao, you'll regret it. Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow. But soon and for the rest of your life."

      RB, I think Casablanca works.

    • LadyLigeia February 2, 2016 12:31 am
      I think Aki is like a long island ice tea--a drink that looks harmless and sweet, but that has a surprising combination of ingredients that can sneak up on you and kick you ass. Anoni Grrl

      A sweet and cool drink. Good!

    • Sammy
      February 2, 2016 12:32 am
      I think Aki is like a long island ice tea--a drink that looks harmless and sweet, but that has a surprising combination of ingredients that can sneak up on you and kick you ass. Anoni Grrl

      Yes! That totally sounds like Akihito!

    • LadyLigeia February 2, 2016 12:34 am
      "If that plane leaves and you're not with Tao, you'll regret it. Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow. But soon and for the rest of your life."RB, I think Casablanca works. Anoni Grrl

      Fantastic! I love Casablanca so much. :)

    • LadyLigeia February 2, 2016 1:32 am
      wrong film Lady L. Casbalanca ref. still like your view of Fei and your view of Takaba Anoni. @Reality bites

      Maybe "Gilda" or "The lady from Shangai" match better the idea.

    • Anonymously February 2, 2016 1:54 am
      I think Aki is like a long island ice tea--a drink that looks harmless and sweet, but that has a surprising combination of ingredients that can sneak up on you and kick you ass. Anoni Grrl

      Nice one. Your response took me back to that scene Asami took Aki for a drink.

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 2, 2016 2:13 am
      Maybe "Gilda" or "The lady from Shangai" match better the idea. @LadyLigeia

      Somehow I've never seen that one--but I am going to find it. I will also brush up on my Poe, because I almost missed the significance of your name. :)

    • LadyLigeia February 2, 2016 3:30 am
      Somehow I've never seen that one--but I am going to find it. I will also brush up on my Poe, because I almost missed the significance of your name. :) Anoni Grrl

      Quote: " Here then, at least," I shrieked aloud, " can I never- can I never be mistaken- these are the full, and the black, and the wild eyes- of my lost love- of the lady- of the LADY LIGEIA. "

    • Anonymously February 3, 2016 8:24 pm

      Thank you LadyLigeia, Anoni Grrl, Reality bites and Sammy for having fun, making it fun and being creative.

  17. Sammy
    February 1, 2016 12:58 pm

    I was filling out a job application and it asked me what prompted me to apply there and that got me thinking what it would be like if Asami and Akihito were real and not just manga chacters *I know reality bites* and Asami had job applications for his places of business.

    I would like to know what you would replay to the question: What prompted you to select Sion as a potential employer?


    me, my answer is simple. I want to be Asami-sama's minion.

  18. Anonymous February 1, 2016 5:52 am

    Fei Long is not liked just for his hair. Takaba is not liked just for his round butt. Asami is not liked just for his crotch. Drops mic.

    • Reality bites February 1, 2016 9:32 am

      Picks up mic Asami He does what he says he will do when he says he will do it. He will tell you the truth of a situation,( if that dress is not right, he will offer a second choice.)hahahahaha Will not play love games, if it is just for sex, you will know it, and still want it. As long as you stay away from his bus. he can be a caring , protective , knowing lover willing to please his partner. the places he has been to, the people he knows, the conversations you can have with him. He is more than his........,.............. puts down mic.

    • ... February 1, 2016 10:36 am

      I like this comment a lot. :)

    • Reality bites February 1, 2016 11:21 am

      Mic in hand....... Feilon would bloom in the garden of a mature minded lover. Fei would be loyal and faithful even though he has been betrayed many times. He seeks to balance himself with some one that will accept him for who HE is not what he is. He in pure need and want and not of the sexual kind. He is a seeker of love. his needs may be many but you will want for nothing. He will be very loyal and you will never be bored pruning this mans garden. his hair smellls of roses................puts mic down.

    • LadyLigeia February 1, 2016 1:36 pm
      Mic in hand....... Feilon would bloom in the garden of a mature minded lover. Fei would be loyal and faithful even though he has been betrayed many times. He seeks to balance himself with some one that will ac... @Reality bites

      Kudos to you!!!

    • Liquid Plumber February 1, 2016 4:09 pm
      Mic in hand....... Feilon would bloom in the garden of a mature minded lover. Fei would be loyal and faithful even though he has been betrayed many times. He seeks to balance himself with some one that will ac... @Reality bites

      But you might get tired of cleaning out the shower drain.

    • Reality bites February 1, 2016 6:39 pm

      hahahahaha. That's what plungers are for. Thanks for the kudos and your likes of Asami.

    • Anon February 7, 2016 8:06 pm
      Mic in hand....... Feilon would bloom in the garden of a mature minded lover. Fei would be loyal and faithful even though he has been betrayed many times. He seeks to balance himself with some one that will ac... @Reality bites

      His garden is so nice because all the " roses" are usually trimmed. Because he is a beautiful man

  19. Anonymous January 31, 2016 8:24 am

    Is it only me or not..Asami looks like an uke lately....

    • Anon January 31, 2016 9:10 am

      Haha - I suspect you're trolling and trying to get a reaction from people saying 'Asami doesn't look like a uke - how dare you!' as though being a uke was a bad thing.

      However, I'll play along. I don't think Asami looks like a uke lately. He's wearing his hair ungelled more often - in universe because he's been shown in more casual situations - out of universe Yamane Ayano has said it's because the gelled hair is a pain to draw. He's also wearing more causal clothes, in universe only for the last couple of hours because it's night time, though out of universe it's been for about two years.

      However, he's still tall, he's still heavily muscled, he's still dark-haired and he's still showing very little facial expression/ emotional reaction despite being in the middle of a gun fight - those are are pretty stereotypically seme characteristics. He's also wearing a shoulder holster and carrying a big gun, just to underline the point.

    • Reality bites January 31, 2016 10:27 am

      IF he was. just saying he would put all the others to shame. He would be the best damm uke ever with that fine butt. Asami would turn a straight man gay for life damm.

    • J Unleashed January 31, 2016 10:52 am

      Now this is getting into something that has always pissed me off since since I first began reading BL manga.

      Why being a uke considered to be so degrading?

      Why would a male who chooses to be on the "receiving" end of m/m sex, be considered to be lesser and weaker than the one doing the penetrating?

      And I wholeheartedly agree with Reality bites-- Asami has the capability of enslaving ANYONE... regardless of what position he takes.

    • Anon January 31, 2016 10:52 am
      IF he was. just saying he would put all the others to shame. He would be the best damm uke ever with that fine butt. Asami would turn a straight man gay for life damm. @Reality bites

      Heh. He would be absolutely terrifying, oh my god. Without the constraint of having to play the self-controlled seme he'd be like Akihito on the aphrodisiac drug, but all the time. Cutting a swath of destruction across Japan and leaving a trail of exhausted semes behind him.

    • Anon January 31, 2016 11:01 am
      Now this is getting into something that has always pissed me off since since I first began reading BL manga. Why being a uke considered to be so degrading? Why would a male who chooses to be on the "receiving" ... J Unleashed

      I think it's straightforward. Ukes are seen as effeminate. Women are seen as inferior to men. Taking the 'female' receiving role is therefore degrading because it puts the man in the woman's role.

      I don't agree, but women being seen as inferior is very common, sadly probably the default, across cultures and throughout history. It's not a specifically a BL manga issue.

    • A Good Reader January 31, 2016 11:17 am
      Now this is getting into something that has always pissed me off since since I first began reading BL manga. Why being a uke considered to be so degrading? Why would a male who chooses to be on the "receiving" ... J Unleashed

      Ideally there shouldnt be a problem about it, but having a guy on the receiving end is against the common perception of masculinity. Most gays dont really bother about these roles (at least not as much as the people around them). I think it kind of makes sense that the wrong message became a recurring theme in yaoi mangas seeing that most of yaoi mangakas and yaoi readers are actually women, who may or may not have contact with gay men, and who are probably straight.
      Yaoi manga is actually a very "straight" genre in my opinion (straight mangakas, straight readers), therefore the common idea of masculinity may fit better.

    • Anonymous January 31, 2016 11:34 am

      If Asami was really a uke or a seke, he would probably not be half or even a quarter as popular as he is now. Right now he is seen to be one of the top seme and I think part of the allure is the dominating, controlling part of his character. It's just another yaoi trope but a trope that's effective anyway in drawing the fans in.

    • Anon January 31, 2016 12:01 pm
      If Asami was really a uke or a seke, he would probably not be half or even a quarter as popular as he is now. Right now he is seen to be one of the top seme and I think part of the allure is the dominating, con... @Anonymous

      Asami would be dominating and controlling as a uke, as others have said. It's a change in sexual position not character. But I agree Asami would be less popular as a uke even if his character stayed the same. Semes are seen as higher status and more masculine because they penetrate rather than are penetrated. It's the bizarre reasoning behind that thinking which is interesting.

    • Anonymous January 31, 2016 12:09 pm
      Haha - I suspect you're trolling and trying to get a reaction from people saying 'Asami doesn't look like a uke - how dare you!' as though being a uke was a bad thing.However, I'll play along. I don't think Asa... @Anon

      Pardon me if you think I'm a troll. But if you read the latest chapter, when he sees Takaba's panic face, his face a bit softer if I compared to him in vol 1-6, which is much more musculine. He even a lil bit looks like Takaba. Sensei draw His eyes bigger than before.
      Have you read Cs? Havi even looks a lil bit girlier....

    • Reality bites January 31, 2016 12:52 pm

      Sensi is drawing emotion, not sexual position or orientation. That is supposed to indicate he is open to a given situation or person to hear what they have to say . It's like saying come into my personal space. Sensi is drawing initimacy. He is giving comfort to Takaba.

    • Anonymous January 31, 2016 1:45 pm
      Pardon me if you think I'm a troll. But if you read the latest chapter, when he sees Takaba's panic face, his face a bit softer if I compared to him in vol 1-6, which is much more musculine. He even a lil bit l... @Anonymous

      Actually I was just noticing that same panel earlier today and thinking the same thing. People were complaining that Akihito is being drawn more small and less manly in recent chapters and now you mentioned Havi looking girlier as well. It could be that sensei's drawing style is changing to a softer style, maybe.

    • Anonymous January 31, 2016 2:13 pm

      Our adorable Asami would be the King of ukes! He would be so incredible sexy to dethrone the current King: The tyrant Souchi Tatsumi. :) :) :)

    • Romanceisdead69
      January 31, 2016 3:20 pm

      Sensei's over all drawing style has certainly grown more feminine since the beginning of this manga, less sharp lines and angles of faces etc. Her work in general has become a lot more 'pretty' over the years. I think also with how Akihito's and Asami's relationship is developing his eyes betray a lot of his emotion and genuine feeling for Akihito - not something we really see in a lot of Yaoi with our seme's - it's normally wham, bam, thank you ma'am and feelings become second billing to sex scenes.

      I think that's what you mean by he looks like an uke? The level of emotion which which he expresses himself? The softness of his features?

      I know people pretty much hate fan fic lol - but I'll always remember one of my fave fics of Viewfinder by Sunflower. It's perfectly IC and to me sums up their relationship, and what being seme and uke means. Asami as an uke is just ლ(´ڡ`ლ) and Akihito as his seme is likeヾ(☆▽☆)

      crikey. Definitely worth a read!

    • Romanceisdead69
      January 31, 2016 3:36 pm
      Now this is getting into something that has always pissed me off since since I first began reading BL manga. Why being a uke considered to be so degrading? Why would a male who chooses to be on the "receiving" ... J Unleashed

      Isn't it sad? I always think that too. That people see the Uke as the 'feminine' position in a relationship, therefore submissive and of a lesser position that the Seme. But I reckon that for these judgemental people, it says more about how they view themselves (in a relationship) if they think that (pardon the expression) taking a dick is any less than um, giving a dick…

      I mean, have they ever watched gay porn? You watch that and tell me those Uke's aren't any less of a man just because they have a cock (or two) up their asses!

      Ehem. I drank too much last night, please excuse me...

    • Anoni Grrl
      January 31, 2016 3:51 pm
      Pardon me if you think I'm a troll. But if you read the latest chapter, when he sees Takaba's panic face, his face a bit softer if I compared to him in vol 1-6, which is much more musculine. He even a lil bit l... @Anonymous

      See, this is the problem behind the whole question. I realize you are just reflecting something others have mentioned: society can have some really weird ideas about ukes and semes relating to "masculine" and "feminine", and it all links back to sexism which values females less and assigns restrictive and often inaccurate gender role stereotypes.

      As anon and others have said, in real life, how someone looks reflects nothing about their sexuality or preference in sexual positions. Having a softer side doesn't make someone feminine and being "feminine" doesn't make someone a uke. But in yoai it too often it does, so I understand why you might think that way.

      My favorite yaois are the ones that don't play into those stereotypes much, but I have to admit that sometimes Finder does. I still like Finder for many, many reasons, but those restrictive views on sex roles and sexual positions still exist, and it is probably because a large portion of the fan base likes it that way. One would think yaoi fans, of all people, would be open minded and embrace diversity--however, one would probably be disappointed.

      But to answer your questions, I didn't interpret Asami allowing more feeling to show as him being softer, or growing new sex organs, or wanting different sexual position. I saw it as the relationship progressing and Asami letting his guard down a little. I guess that is just a matter of interpretation though.

    • Anoni Grrl
      January 31, 2016 3:57 pm
      I think it's straightforward. Ukes are seen as effeminate. Women are seen as inferior to men. Taking the 'female' receiving role is therefore degrading because it puts the man in the woman's role.I don't agree,... @Anon

      Actually there is evidence it is not the default, but this probably isn't the forum to debate that. Sexism is certainly present in most dominant cultures of our time and recent history--much like it is present in the dominant religions of our time (which I do not believe is a coincidence).

    • Romanceisdead69
      January 31, 2016 4:18 pm
      Isn't it sad? I always think that too. That people see the Uke as the 'feminine' position in a relationship, therefore submissive and of a lesser position that the Seme. But I reckon that for these judgemental ... Romanceisdead69

      Dammit f****g typo's again! Stupid hangover, I mean "are" not "aren't" - lordy, talking about miscommunicating my own point ^^'

    • Hanne January 31, 2016 4:19 pm
      Isn't it sad? I always think that too. That people see the Uke as the 'feminine' position in a relationship, therefore submissive and of a lesser position that the Seme. But I reckon that for these judgemental ... Romanceisdead69

      I find this quite funny too. I have two friends (gay - of course) and the one with more feminine mannerisms (In tease him that he is a screaming queen) is a top, and the furry, bearded and more muscle-bound friend is a bottom (they are not a couple). So when I see a huge dichotomy in the way the top/bottom characters are illustrated, it seems to me that the mangakas are trying to depict a more tradition male/female type of imagery while still writing m/m relationships. I am not really bothered by it, but the imagery tends to be fairly blatant.

    • Reality bites January 31, 2016 4:50 pm

      The writers are producing for an audience who are rather trad. minded JPN.( mostly women) who want to see their ideal strong Seme ( male) lover in the main character. We westerners are secondary.

    • LadyLigeia January 31, 2016 4:58 pm
      I find this quite funny too. I have two friends (gay - of course) and the one with more feminine mannerisms (In tease him that he is a screaming queen) is a top, and the furry, bearded and more muscle-bound fri... Hanne

      True!

    • Romanceisdead69
      January 31, 2016 5:24 pm
      I find this quite funny too. I have two friends (gay - of course) and the one with more feminine mannerisms (In tease him that he is a screaming queen) is a top, and the furry, bearded and more muscle-bound fri... Hanne

      Yes good point and I think that's totally legit considering the majority of Yaoi readers and artists are straight women. We write for our owns tastes after all.
      I like seeing the dynamics in Bara for a more 'macho' kind of Uke, though teehee. All that muscle and hair! ( ̄∇ ̄")

    • Anoni Grrl
      January 31, 2016 6:09 pm
      Yes good point and I think that's totally legit considering the majority of Yaoi readers and artists are straight women. We write for our owns tastes after all.I like seeing the dynamics in Bara for a more 'mac... Romanceisdead69

      I confess I don't care for the Bara style--though it's cool if other people like it. A large part of it may be that the sort of men drawn in yaoi are more in line with what I find attractive than the big bear type of guy (nothing against that type either, just a personal thing). But even in Bara, I've seen a lot of younger ukes who look like boys (or at least teens). I don't now if it has less stereotypes or a different focus. For some reason, I perceive Bara as closer to hentai, where I don't really look for a plot so much as an excuse for sex.

    • Romanceisdead69
      January 31, 2016 6:35 pm
      I confess I don't care for the Bara style--though it's cool if other people like it. A large part of it may be that the sort of men drawn in yaoi are more in line with what I find attractive than the big bear t... Anoni Grrl

      Oh yes, the plots are always awful! That's for sure!!! But it goes back to saying that (for me at least) I do not perceive Akihito to be feminine at all or Uke's (or Seme's for that matter) because the character happens to be in touch with their feelings or drawn in a certain way. Aesthetically too I love Asami and Akihito together, even if Asami the larger and 'manlier' of the two would be Uke one day, well, that'll be just fine :D

      I read Bara purely for kicks, and sometimes for comedy value. I do like bears, I hate shota with a passion and think it is disgusting, this is one of the things I hated about living in Japan, seeing people openly reading and buying stories with young characters being sexualised. A big no thank you.

      You'll certainly never get the same feeling from Bara as we would from a manga like viewfinder. It's both unique and irreplaceable <3

    • wow February 1, 2016 12:34 am
      Oh yes, the plots are always awful! That's for sure!!! But it goes back to saying that (for me at least) I do not perceive Akihito to be feminine at all or Uke's (or Seme's for that matter) because the characte... Romanceisdead69

      That's weird, is that because they're not as exposed to paedo-rings constantly being caught on the news, so it's far removed from reality for them? Not that I think makes it okay.
      Anyone else a fan of Mentaiko here, it is very different from BL but very likeable. I usually stay far far away from these masculine feminine discussions. Some people love their characters balanced out in a 'traditional' dynamic and others are disgusted by characters too 'girly' or who cry, refusing to just accept them as characters from another reality, it's hypocritical, why can't a man be feminine or a woman be masculine. I think BL is definitely improving but just when you think ah the Yaoi world is changing along comes something completely ordinary and my addiction dictating I must shut of half my rationale to enjoy it.
      It's all worth it though for when you find those gems that make it alllllllll right again.

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 1, 2016 1:34 am
      That's weird, is that because they're not as exposed to paedo-rings constantly being caught on the news, so it's far removed from reality for them? Not that I think makes it okay. Anyone else a fan of Mentaiko ... @wow

      No one can dictate why you enjoy what you enjoy--any more than they can tell you what to enjoy and what not to enjoy. They can, however, explain what they like or don't like, and it's okay to disagree. For example, I personally don't like "girlie" characters of any gender because (1) I don't find them entertaining, (2) I think they are based on unrealistic and restrictive gender stereotypes (which can be sometimes applied to ukes just because some see them as feminine), and (3) I think these roles somehow imply that being vapid and useless is sexy, and so love interests or "cute" characters need to fit this mold rather than be fully developed as unique and interesting people. But if you find them entertaining or empowering, good for you. Everyone likes different things. I probably wouldn't mind a "girlie" character who was fully developed and showed she had more to offer than being cute and being rescued.

      I agree that finding those stories we like makes it all worth it. :)

    • Anonymous February 1, 2016 9:28 am
      Sensi is drawing emotion, not sexual position or orientation. That is supposed to indicate he is open to a given situation or person to hear what they have to say . It's like saying come into my personal sp... @Reality bites

      It's sensei, not sensi, RB. :)

    • Romanceisdead69
      February 1, 2016 4:54 pm
      That's weird, is that because they're not as exposed to paedo-rings constantly being caught on the news, so it's far removed from reality for them? Not that I think makes it okay. Anyone else a fan of Mentaiko ... @wow

      There are so many issues with young people being sexualised way too early, the age of consent in some areas of Japan is 13 - To me that is unbelievable!!! Is some areas though it's as old as 17. Phew. Also as you've probably heard getting groped on a train or elevator etc is shockingly common : ( - My friend was actually felt up on her way home from work when we lived there, she was very upset.
      It doesn't help that the school uniforms for girls are always based on cute sailor outfits or something either!!!! Nope, I think in that regard Japan has to sort themselves out. (Not that the UK is perfect either! HA!)

      Oh yes, it's nice when you have those stories you keep coming back to time and time again ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

    • Anonymous February 2, 2016 6:58 pm

      Whoever thinks that being a bottom is effeminate or the "women's" role hasn't been around real gay men. Just like in hetero relationships, there are a variety of preferences. Some men are exclusive bottoms, but that doesn't mean they're feminine. Some bottoms take control, some are power bottoms. If Asami were a bottom, he would still look and act the same. In fact, he would be doing his best to make Akihito lose control because Asami is just a controlling guy in the bedroom.

    • Bebi February 7, 2016 4:24 pm
      Sensei's over all drawing style has certainly grown more feminine since the beginning of this manga, less sharp lines and angles of faces etc. Her work in general has become a lot more 'pretty' over the years. ... Romanceisdead69

      Hi! Can you give me the link? I love to reaf finder fanfic.. <3
      Thanks! XD

    • Romanceisdead69
      February 7, 2016 6:45 pm

      I think it's F-list locked on Sunflower1343's LJ profile. I'm reluctant to link something on her journal sorry, if it were on Ao3 or FF.net I would as that's on a public forum. But you can go ahead and add her on LJ - sorry again!

    • Bebi February 7, 2016 11:06 pm
      I think it's F-list locked on Sunflower1343's LJ profile. I'm reluctant to link something on her journal sorry, if it were on Ao3 or FF.net I would as that's on a public forum. But you can go ahead and add her ... Romanceisdead69

      Is ok, you already told me the author.. I'll find it on AO3 or LJ. Thanks anyway ;)..

  20. Anonymous January 31, 2016 7:45 am

    Okay, I sort of have to get this off my chest right now...because I'm really taken aback at how much negativity and hostility is going on around here. Every other post has some form of insult or troll or mean remark in it. Of course everyone is allowed to share their opinion, but can't they be a bit more friendly about it? And let people with other opinions and preferences express theirs without attacking them? It's kind of scary. We could all just be nice and get along. ._.

    • Anonymous January 31, 2016 8:48 am

      It's on-par with other quasi-anonymous, unmoderated places on the internet, better than some probably because it has lower traffic. There are forums which are a lot more hostile - Youtube, Reddit, the comment sections of any major news outlet, for example - but I don't know any unmoderated space on the internet where posters do not have their opinions attacked. (It happens in moderated spaces too, but mods delete the comments.)

      Complaining actively makes the problem worse. It encourages the trolling because the trolls can see they are getting a reaction. Engaging with the posters who are commenting in good faith and ignoring those who aren't is the only way to improve the content to noise ratio.

    • Reality bites January 31, 2016 10:23 am

      It has been worse. It could be better, but it has a kind of flow to it. People do try to keep it somewhat decent. I have noticed no cussing, direct bitch slapping or ass calling. That is an improvement. People here can be a bit to passionate in their long held head canons. the team Takaba and Fei lovers are strong defenders . Trolls come and go, so do these hot times. If you see it getting to hot in here start a new conversation thread. Some times that works.

    • J Unleashed January 31, 2016 11:24 am

      People tend to get defensive about things they're passionate about.

      VF generates a lot of passion-- positive, negative, love & hate. It means readers are fully engaged in the story... which indicates the author must be doing a pretty good job.

      If it was bad or boring, nobody would say much about it, and this manga would've died long ago.

    • Romanceisdead69
      January 31, 2016 3:26 pm

      I think we've all been subject to trolls at one point or another in our Viewfinder foruming adventures - it's definitely not a nice feeling and you do wonder why some people are major douchebags when it comes to making a point. But you just gotta remember, there are all sorts of people in the world. Some are assholes. Some are nice! :D

      Best to skim over the stuff one here that is clearly aimed to cause a reaction or purposefully upset or insult, the psychology behind trolling is fascinating though lol. I suppose everyone needs a hobby...

    • Romanceisdead69
      January 31, 2016 3:26 pm
      I think we've all been subject to trolls at one point or another in our Viewfinder foruming adventures - it's definitely not a nice feeling and you do wonder why some people are major douchebags when it comes t... Romanceisdead69

      Urgh, typo. Sorry!

    • Anoni Grrl
      January 31, 2016 4:57 pm

      A wise person posted a comment in another forum that stated, "Sure, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you have to expect to be told to f*ck off if you intrude on someone else's pleasure." This makes total sense. However, I think this can lead to friction too.

      Suppose some plot point or character in a manga that annoys me. I like the story a lot and I don't want to apply the simple "Don't like, don't read" rule, but I want to vent about this one thing. It's probably because I liked the story that I want to talk about the issue. Suppose someone else really likes the same thing that bothers me. My venting intrudes on their pleasure and when I judge that action or character, they feel judged. Of course they tell me to F- off--and of course I answer, because I see my position as valid.

      It's nice if we can step back and just see it as a difference of opinion, but it's also natural to dig in and argue. I think humor helps, but some humor can be seen as snarky and may make it worse. I don't know. I try to add a lot of "in my opinion" and "as I see it" phrases, but part of me feels like that is a step back from just sating what I think flat out and trusting others to know it is my opinion.

      If we were face to face and could hear the tone, probably it would not be an issue. If we were the only Yoai fans we knew in our town, we'd probably be friends even if one disliked Mikhail (or whomever) and another shipped him with everybody. It would be a friendly bickering resolved over the beverage of your choice, and we'd be united against all those who hate yaoi in the first place.

    • Anonymous February 1, 2016 9:58 am
      A wise person posted a comment in another forum that stated, "Sure, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you have to expect to be told to f*ck off if you intrude on someone else's pleasure." This makes to... Anoni Grrl

      Regarding the sentiment you quoted, I find that neither wise nor does it make sense to me. There is a reason that so many people who used to be regulars here have no wandered off to seek greener pastures. In other words: They have joined groups where they can in fact express their opinion freely, without being dissed, attacked or told to eff off. They can also express their opinion and people will let it be, just like that, without a big discussion and people trying to challenge their views or likes. I am in a group, for example, where we have people who ship AxA, AxF, FxA, AxF, MxF and what not. You will not find a single fight there. Every ship is fine. Every opinion counts. No opinion is questioned. But there is a respect there that I am missing here.

      You say that it is natural to dig and argue. And you say that you like to add "in my opinion" and "as I see it" a lot (basically Psychology 101 - the golden roles of communication and cooperation yada yada). It may be in your nature to dig and argue, but that is not the case for everyone else, AG. I have to admit I have a problem with that when it is in REPLY to someone. Why can't we let person A express their preference for AxA and let person B express a preference for, say AxF? Let both opinions BE and not REPLY to a person saying that you don't see it that way or start questioning its validity (which is something you very often do). I like your presence here and I love your posts, but I find I don't want to get into discussions with you, AG, because I often experience you as someone who strongly pushes her opinions on others and likes to have the last word on the matter. And the fact that you word it with "I think/feel" or "in my opinion" does not change that. You may experience it as a fruitful discussion. I find it tiresome and unneccessary when all I want is for my opinion to accepted as my very own, very subjective, very personal view that as I will accept yours and those of others. Sometimes I would just wish people would simply let everyone's opinion be. You don't have to get into a discussion or a dig all the time to try and convince people of your point of view (which, again, you do a lot). Sometimes I would just like to express an opinion here without having it disected, put into question and discussed by you and others. Eventually, I found I cannot do that here (for aforementioned reasons), which is why I no longer post opionions or likes here and do so elsewhere. I wish it wasn't the case, but sadly, it is. In other words: You were writing about what, in your opinion, seems to be the problem here, but to be honest, AG: You are part of the problem. As I said: I like your thoughtfulness and your posts, but sometimes, someone just wants to voice an opinion without going to a four-hour 45 post discussion with you. And I did not write this to stir the pot in any way, but as someone who USED to be a regular here and no longer is, it has been on my mind for a while. And as I said, this is just me voicing my opinion - so I won't join you in a discussion on that one either. :)

    • Cap February 1, 2016 1:04 pm

      I agree with every single word in the last comment posted in this topic. I am also someone who used to be very active on here in the past, but I've long since given up on this board because I don't like what's become of it and the quality of some of the people here. Yes, we survived the Troll War from a couple of years ago, but this board has now been taken over by certain individuals who fancy themselves as being judge and jury, while posing as rational and mild-mannered fans. Someone said recently (in a completely unrelated topic) that on this board, you're either with VF fans or against them. Agreed. I've noticed that you have to tread very carefully so as not to upset the ''leaders''. Months ago, someone posted something about Yamane Ayano updating her works, but not in a way that they insulted YA or used any derogatory words, merely stating a fact and airing out a grievance. I was shocked to see a person I used to hold in high regard violently lash out with a virulent, verbally abusive post, in which the OP was demeaned to the point that the conclusion reached was that the OP was a nobody, doing nothing with his/her life and the subtext was that they were beneath Yamane Ayano simply because they were not a mangaka, and had no right to speak of YA if it was not to praise her.

      That is a textbook case of bullying. Most shocking and frankly, disgusting, was that it came from a person who has always been viewed as an example of how civil and rational a VF fan should be on this page. A person that in the past positioned themselves against trolls and bullies ultimately became the bully. The good people that used to post here are no more, and although there are a number of people here that are articulate, make relevant and intriguing points, I do believe it's ultimately gone to their heads. They seem to have assumed this position of moderators, and although there have been praises that VF fans have mellowed out and are more polite in their debates, to me it's all an illusion. There is an air of oppression on this board, and people bend over backwards so as not to upset with their comments because they don't want to be shunned from this community by the ''judges''. Bluntly put, there is a lot of ass kissing going on here and there is something fundamentally wrong at the core of this Mangago community. To try to rationalize and explain the abusive language being used here in an attempt to make it seem somewhat okay and normal by saying that VF fans are passionate, that's just the way thay are, they mean no harm, is despicable and it just breeds online violence. It is the reason why VF fans have gotten such a bad rep since the start of THIS community, do not generalize, there are many that do not agree with your way of enforcing things here under a guise of keeping things civil. There&rsquo;s a whole other world out there when it comes to fans of this manga.

    • Anoni Grrl
      February 1, 2016 2:27 pm
      I agree with every single word in the last comment posted in this topic. I am also someone who used to be very active on here in the past, but I've long since given up on this board because I don't like what's ... @Cap

      The word bully implies an imbalance of power. While some people may not like to debate or be questioned, there is no Lleadership" or power game at play. Everyone is on equal footing. I've never even seen people gang up on a poster the way I have at other forums. No one "enforces" anything except by answering. No one can "shun" you--the most they can do is talk back. To call it "abusive" or "online violence" is hyperbole at best. The most it is may be annoying or less accepting than you would prefer.

    • Anon February 1, 2016 2:53 pm
      I agree with every single word in the last comment posted in this topic. I am also someone who used to be very active on here in the past, but I've long since given up on this board because I don't like what's ... @Cap

      Hope you didn't think you were going to be able to say all of that here without being told how very wrong you are.