hello there, random passerby here.
i beg of you to not take anything in this as a personal attack, or me hating on you, because it is none of that. I do not support all of FRUITY LOOPS/Kimiko's actions, but not all of yours either. let me play Devil's Advocate for a while, please.
the labeling with mental illness on you was absolutely not acceptable and I understand your anger there, but i ask you to follow your own advice sometimes.
"You’re genuinely acting like I killed y’all’s family. It’s the Internet. Just label me as a troll and move on with your day. These comments just get worse and worse, and I’m starting to realize how truly pathetic y’all are. You are literally bringing out every single fucking weapon against a minor just to make them feel like absolute shit."
... What about your actions to FRUITY LOOPS? To Kimiko (or whatever they go by now)? You've made several callout posts to them, calling them the worst things as well (although no mental illnesses, etc).
one particular line stuck out to me:
"It’s the Internet. Just label me as a troll and move on with your day. "
If you just simply flip the words around:
"It’s the Internet. Just label them as trolls and move on with your day. "
So, why didn't you? You criticize them for not doing so, yet refuse to do so yourself.
In another callout post of yours, you asked them to take it to DMS, yet failed to do yourself.
"Why are y’all so mad about a random person online? Why you spend so much energy on publicly hating me? The bars so fucking low at this point, that I genuinely don’t like Mangago users. Y’all are pathetic, and preices of shit for constantly going after a MINOR! At least when I criticize fruit loops, I call them out on truly disgusting shit they did. All you got on me is that in an pseudo intellectualist, and an asshole? I challenge your YT fragility? "
Why are YOU so mad about a random person online? Why do YOU spend so much energy on publicly hating them?
"At least when I criticize fruit loops, I call them out on truly disgusting shit they did. All you got on me is that in an pseudo intellectualist, and an asshole? I challenge your YT fragility? "
So, in your logic, your criticizing and publicly shaming FRUIT LOOPS was condoned, because they had "truly disgusting shit" on them? And you don't?
There's something I see commented on your posts often: if it makes you mad, then [OP's] probably right. This isn't always correct, but I'd like you to this of from an outsider's perspective. You call everyone on this site horrible things, do you REALLY think they'll support you after this? Really.
There's a limit between "spitting facts" and "being an asshole." The line is very meager, but yet, it's still there.
They called you asshole. You made a callout post for them.
With this logic, because you called mangago users pathetic and disgusting, shouldn't we all be out here writing up callout posts too? Don't be mistaken, this isn't a callout post. It's more of a, 'wake up and look around you', type of post.
I understand that many things that FRUITY LOOPS and Kimiko have said might have angered you, but as is the thing with online arguments. You get angry in them. Hence the argue.
You can't think the world revolves around you. Race is not the only thing that matters.
There's no online persona. There's no public image. Sorry, but when you say that sort of stuff, you're not garnering popularity or clout. The more posts you do, the more you look like a fool -- and this is for everyone involved. The drama doesn't make you look superior, or cool. It just makes you look petty.
I've also seen you say that they're gaslighting.
They aren't psychologically manipulating you.
ending note: Don't take this too personally. I understand I'm not perfect either.
You seem to be VERY stubborn with your opinions, and that's not always a bad thing. Being adamant is sometimes an extremely helpful feature. But part of growing is accepting that you're not always correct.
At least FRUITY LOOPS has apologized for their errors, and I'm pretty sure the only thing Kimiko did that involved you was argue with you on your Picrew post. AGAIN: IT HAPPENS EVERY DAY. ONLINE ARGUMENTS EVEN MORE RELEVANT THAN THIS ILLEGAL SITE HAPPEN EVERY DAY. Just follow your own advice: either take it to DMS, or label them as trolls and move on with your day.
Also, just in case you fight back with the fact i'm being racist by saying this: Nah. i'm not trying to be racist, there was nothing entailing race during my whole post, but sometimes you need to admit not everything's about what color you are.
This drama is completely unwanted. There is no victim. It's not gaslighting. This is an online argument spiraled out of control, and I'd appreciate if we all just calm down and stop.
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I’m so fucking late well hi I guess
Lets just stop talking about this unnecessary drama, leave it to them if they want to keep fighting on a yaoi website, it's none of our business anyway, and let's start talking about the good yaoi shit again(╯°Д °)╯╧╧.
This site isn't a yaoi website either...
@Cestelle where was this energy when kageyama made her 5th post about me, after claiming in her 4th post that they were done with the drama? Exactly, it was no where to e found, as a matter a fact you were hyping them up every post they made. Stop picking nd choosing who you wanna talk about. And i never started talking about the drama again, i was responding to this post REGARDING the drama, if i wanted to talk about this drama i would've done it long ago. I am the only one who hasn't made a post regarding/speaking on the drama, before you come for me look at your online buddy kageyama.
I didn't make this post to start more drama, just to point out some key points I'd think many people missed, so I'd greatly appreciate if one of you kindly heeded my advice instead of using this post as a place to further argue and took it to DMS or just simply forgot each other.
You both are very stubborn with your own opinions, and I know if one is not willing to back down or come to a peaceful agreement, this argument will never end.
That was not the point of the post, my post was pointing out the dumb shit people were saying to me: calling me slurs, lying about stuff I didn’t do, calling me dumb shit, assigning me mental illnesses, demonizing me for being reactionary when it’s apart of a mental illness, etc.I was commenting on how disgusting the actions were that were handed TOO me, and I don’t let that slide by. There’s a difference between being a troll, and saying disgusting shit. At the end of the day, I didn’t SAY horrible shit. They did, so I called them out on it. That’s all.
But the other parties involves were ALSO commenting on how disgusting they thought actions were that were handed TO them were, and they didn't let that slide by.
At the end of the day, you believe you didn't say horrible shit, and they did. So you called them out on it. But they obviously thought you did, and called you out on it.
Just like you did.
Personally, i think this reply proves my point a bit further. The point of MY post, was that you were giving yourself double standards. That's it.
People in the Taku~ post were the same.
People in every SINGLE troll post are the same.
People in EVERY SINGLE POST THAT IS NOT DAILY do the same thing.
It is not a different procedure.
They comment overused memes and repeat overused sentences. Yet, no one batted an eyelash. But when it's used on your post, it suddenly becomes a bigger thing. I must add, there is quite a bit of hypocrisy going around with ALL the people involved in this.
Well, as is life on the internet. I'm not super invested in this, so I haven't seen all the posts and can neither confirm nor deny Fruity Loops and your claims, but i understand that you'd be hurt by it. Yet, did you think fanning the flames was going to help?
If you simply thought Fruity Loops/Kimiko were trolls, i doubt you'd be so worked up over it. If you find someone you dislike, follow your own advice. Block them or work it out privately, and be over with it.
I don't agree with all their actions, but I don't believe ANYONE involved responded correctly in this situation either.
I agree, i wasn't right (in a sense) but i couldn't take this drama to the dms anyway because i was blocked. Kageyama your point that your a "minor"is irrelevant, I'm a minor to. Most of the people on this site are minors. You were being an asshole, i won't apologize for calling you one, no one on this site has the balls (other than a select few) call to call you out. You mentioned all the things i did but you brought that up randomly, we were speaking on your online persona and how you care so much about what others have to say. Calling someone a dumbass for disagreeing with your opinion is an asshole move. This so called "public image" your talking about, what the fuck does that even mean? YOU ARE ON A PUBLIC ILLEGAL READING SITE. Any online clout you have is not to be taken seriously. And you bringing race into something that is completely irrelevant to race just makes you look pitiful. As i mentioned before multiple times kageyama i HAD respect for you, but i don't anymore because you honestly clowned yourself trying to make yourself the victim in a situation where everyone did something wrong, but YOU are more in the wong for making this situation public. Take some time and reflect on your bullshit. As i have said i won't sugar code shit to you, because i don't care about your feelings, i care about the facts.And stop saying someone's gaslighting you when they only called you out for YOUR own bullshit, it makes you look like a clown. You aren't a victim sweetie.
Also i know you didn't block me because i did "disgusting" shit. We all know why you ACTUALLY blocked me
If you wanted the drama to stop so badly why'd you start talking about it again after it already stopped smh
as far as i know, it's still ongoing. if it already ended, then it's my error, yet still wanted to put it out there.