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idk ab you guys but i literally wanna drop this bc of my deep hatred for taehwan .... at f...

shmib February 18, 2021 5:57 am

idk ab you guys but i literally wanna drop this bc of my deep hatred for taehwan .... at first i liked him bc he was hot but i seriously cant stand him im so frustrated rn im ab to cry bruh

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    MarryGRapss February 18, 2021 6:01 am

    No fr. Like he better have some giant character growth bc right now he literally has no redeeming qualities and I don’t like looking at him. I just can’t stand the homophobia.

    Bllover February 18, 2021 6:03 am

    Fr I see all these comments about how hit he is, that doesnt change how much of a dick he is

    shmib February 18, 2021 6:07 am
    No fr. Like he better have some giant character growth bc right now he literally has no redeeming qualities and I don’t like looking at him. I just can’t stand the homophobia. MarryGRapss

    right!! and hes playing the victim too like obviously its difficult to come out especially to someone youre close with .... hes just so annoying and rude i cant stand it

    Tai February 18, 2021 6:46 am

    What specifically did he do that is upsetting u to this degree? I genuinely curious cause I can't figure it out.

    Blk February 18, 2021 6:55 am
    No fr. Like he better have some giant character growth bc right now he literally has no redeeming qualities and I don’t like looking at him. I just can’t stand the homophobia. MarryGRapss

    This!

    ikigai February 18, 2021 7:13 am

    I think he has internalized homophobia according to this chap and that’s why (?) he acted that way. but still, is no excuse for his behavior, I understand you

    Nadeth February 18, 2021 9:19 am
    What specifically did he do that is upsetting u to this degree? I genuinely curious cause I can't figure it out. Tai

    I’m waiting for future chapters because the raws are not very clear but Taehwan is complicated and not in a good way

    shmib February 18, 2021 9:50 am
    What specifically did he do that is upsetting u to this degree? I genuinely curious cause I can't figure it out. Tai

    ive read enough manga and manhwas that i feel like i can feel when someone is going to be a manipulative or just overall bad character .... hes homophobic about everyone but apparently its okay if its him, he treats others like garbage, is supposed to be this “lively, charismatic person that everybody likes” but is not whatsoever its just a character he plays, etc .... idk i just absolutely hate him

    Tai February 18, 2021 9:12 pm
    ive read enough manga and manhwas that i feel like i can feel when someone is going to be a manipulative or just overall bad character .... hes homophobic about everyone but apparently its okay if its him, he t... shmib

    so if i understood you correctly, you hate him for things he hasnt done but MIGHT do based on how other BL webtoons you've read that share some similar tropes? am i right? lol. i mean i get being suspicious or wary of him based on suspicions u have but to hate a character so intensely......but lemme address ur other comments if u dont mind. What did he do specifically that makes u think he's "homophobic to everyone" like his words in the bar can be interpreted in a charitable way or a less charitable way that assumes the worst out of him but at least its based on something he Said. but what has he said and done aside from That which is an example of homophobic behavior?
    "He treats others like garbage" what others? how has he treated anyone like garbage? he's been cold to Yeonwoo but by Yeonwoo's own admission this is based on Yeonwoo doing something to break Taehwan's trust thus ruining their friendship (now what that thing is, or if tae's reaction was warranted, we dont know yet) so far what we HAVE seen is that Taehwan when he feels betrayed will go ice cold on a person and cut all ties (now whether that's acceptable behavior or not is def up for debate/each reader's discretion).
    He IS a lively charismatic person, this is why he's liked by so many. He can also be cold, judgemental and aloof. He can be very loving and deeply loyal but also incredibly petty, stubborn and cold. and ya he def holds back parts of himself from people. but few of us show ALL parts of ourselves good and bad to every person we interact with. basically he can be BOTH things. one doesnt cancel out the other. which is how it works in real life but yeah most stories like this prefer to work in absolutes but what makes this story and his character is interesting (to me anyway) is it allows its characters to have shades and Taehwan in particular has a clear duality to him.
    But getting back to the Homophobia of it all...with regards to Taehwan all we have to go on aside from his words in the bar (which can be taken in multiple ways) is Taehee's observation back in s1 that Taehwan after coming back from studying in the US as a kid became very uncomfortable with anything involving "Guys Liking Guys". later when he is angered by Dojin and Taehee's secret relationship, he never says he's digusted by Taehee or Dojin being gay, even clarifies thats not it. but that they hid it from him (despite them being the closest people to him) and more improtantly he misinterpreted Dojin as a sly person who was preying on his innocent little brother. which is ofc patently false and when he's confronted about it he accepts that he was wrong, gives his blessing on their relationship and reaffirms his closeness (and love) for his little brother.
    So yeah, i dont think he's a person that's beyond criticism or has to be liked by all readers (esp since his inner thoughts are not known to us yet) but i just cant fathom hating him to the extent not just u but some other readers do right now. Esp when i hear what the reasons are Im like are we even reading the same webtoon? (maybe i just havent read enough simplistic and cliche ridden BL so my brain hasnt been hardwired to assume all tops are either Fluffy and Sweet or Rapey Abusive Assholes with no in between).

    Tai February 18, 2021 9:19 pm
    I’m waiting for future chapters because the raws are not very clear but Taehwan is complicated and not in a good way Nadeth

    i think the raws could not be more clear about the fact that this man is deeply traumatized by *spoilers and spoilers* so...i mean its one thing if u dont sympathize with him anyway (or are witholding ur final opinion on taehwan until u see the translations which is fair enough) but even with just what the pictures showed us alone.....im amazed he's not 100x more messed up than he actually is. (which is interestingly enough what the korean commenters on bomtoon also reacted with, and they can actually understand the dialogue so...again...i'd say we're close enough to an idea of what is motivating some of taehwan's actions and feelings over the course of this comic to draw a more charitable conclusion on taehwan's overall personality than say others who may not have seen the raws would.)

    aa_432 February 19, 2021 12:51 am

    I really think you should continue reading this webtoon. To start with the author, "Dolsha" isn't the typa person to just write seemingly toxic characters without a reason. and there is a reason taehwan acts like he does. i recommend you read the raws and use a translating app to translate the dialouge. taehwan has a lot of trauma and theres def more to learn ab him, so i suggest you continue reading, :). https://mega.nz/folder/TxwUyCrQ#p5xPN-KB0Wo8T6PmF_4VGA

    aa_432 February 19, 2021 12:54 am
    No fr. Like he better have some giant character growth bc right now he literally has no redeeming qualities and I don’t like looking at him. I just can’t stand the homophobia. MarryGRapss

    I don't want to sound presumptuous or anything but when has he ever been homophobic? (〜 ̄△ ̄)〜. he doesn't rlly have a problem w taehees nd dojins relationship and hes never said or done anything to an lgbtq+ person that would be seen as homophobic. all he does is state that he himself does not want to be put under the labe of "gay". The author, "Dolsha" isn't the typa person to just write seemingly toxic characters without a reason. and there is a reason taehwan acts like he does. i recommend you read the raws and use a translating app to translate the dialouge. taehwan has a lot of trauma and theres def more to learn ab him, so i suggest you continue reading, :). https://mega.nz/folder/TxwUyCrQ#p5xPN-KB0Wo8T6PmF_4VGA

    aa_432 February 19, 2021 12:57 am
    right!! and hes playing the victim too like obviously its difficult to come out especially to someone youre close with .... hes just so annoying and rude i cant stand it shmib

    goodbye i literally cried reading this comment. he literally is a victim. and youll see that in the coming chapters. pls do not be so quick to judge somebody. especially not a *spoiler*

































    sexual harassment victim. theres more to taehwan than you would think. and btw I don't want to sound presumptuous or anything but when has he ever been homophobic? he doesn't rlly have a problem w taehees nd dojins relationship and hes never said or done anything to an lgbtq+ person that would be seen as homophobic. all he does is state that he himself does not want to be put under the labe of "gay". The author, "Dolsha" isn't the typa person to just write seemingly toxic characters without a reason. and there is a reason taehwan acts like he does. i recommend you read the raws and use a translating app to translate the dialouge. taehwan has a lot of trauma and theres def more to learn ab him, so i suggest you continue reading, :). https://mega.nz/folder/TxwUyCrQ#p5xPN-KB0Wo8T6PmF_4VGA

    aa_432 February 19, 2021 1:02 am
    Fr I see all these comments about how hit he is, that doesnt change how much of a dick he is Bllover

    okay yall r rlly gonna regret these comments in like 5 weeks (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ. you should def read the raws tho, it'll clear up a lot of things ab taehwan. heres the link, https://mega.nz/folder/TxwUyCrQ#p5xPN-KB0Wo8T6PmF_4VGA (i recommend do loading a translating app onto ur phone and translating the raws like that. it wont be very accurate but itll help you understand the a bit.)

    aa_432 February 19, 2021 1:04 am
    so if i understood you correctly, you hate him for things he hasnt done but MIGHT do based on how other BL webtoons you've read that share some similar tropes? am i right? lol. i mean i get being suspicious or ... Tai

    bye cuz im literally in love w you omg. the passive aggressive way you reply to comments just makes me happy. im ur biggest fan fr ( ̄∇ ̄").

    shmib February 19, 2021 1:15 am
    I really think you should continue reading this webtoon. To start with the author, "Dolsha" isn't the typa person to just write seemingly toxic characters without a reason. and there is a reason taehwan acts li... aa_432

    i assumed he would have some sort of trauma that makes him act the way he does but even under that assumption i still dont like him .... bc of 2 reasons: a) we havent (or at least i havent bc i dont like reading raws) seen what happened to him so its hard for me to sympathize and b) plenty of people have trauma and stuff and dont act like a dick .... this is coming from someone who absolutely loves sangwoos character, a person with an unbelievable amount of trauma and is a bad person but not in a dick-ee way ... i just dont like taehwan

    Tai February 19, 2021 3:28 am
    i assumed he would have some sort of trauma that makes him act the way he does but even under that assumption i still dont like him .... bc of 2 reasons: a) we havent (or at least i havent bc i dont like readin... shmib

    ...sangwoo the uh serial murderer? he's the favorable one to you in a comparsion between him and Taehwan a person whose only crimes so far amount to *checks notes* being mean to one guy he was friends with as a teen and hasnt spoken to in years and fighting with his bff and baby bro one time....ok. well i see that...we're just clearly not on the same page here so i think its fine if we just agree 2 disagree... (brutalizing and murdering and raping is not Dickish u say? sure y not. sounds legit 2 me~~)

    Tai February 19, 2021 3:32 am
    bye cuz im literally in love w you omg. the passive aggressive way you reply to comments just makes me happy. im ur biggest fan fr ( ̄∇ ̄"). aa_432

    lmao. ur welcome? i try not to be pass agg but then in the end....it comes out that way. but also this commenter in particular....has me feelin some kinda way...

    Nadeth February 21, 2021 4:27 pm
    i think the raws could not be more clear about the fact that this man is deeply traumatized by *spoilers and spoilers* so...i mean its one thing if u dont sympathize with him anyway (or are witholding ur final ... Tai

    I’m withholding my opinion of him until I red the translations because I’m not sure exactly what happened. I’m a bit behind on the raws but I’d rather wait for translations :)

    shmib February 21, 2021 5:10 pm
    so if i understood you correctly, you hate him for things he hasnt done but MIGHT do based on how other BL webtoons you've read that share some similar tropes? am i right? lol. i mean i get being suspicious or ... Tai

    theres definitely an inbetween for the fluffy and sweet or rapey and abusive tropes and personally i dont think taehwan falls under either of the categories .... also as to why i dont like him, i genuinely couldnt give you a solid reason as to why i hate him ... everybody has personality types they dispise in particular. everything i listed or said was things that added more hatred into it you know? he has the “homophobic yet gay” vibe to him based of the things he said & what weve seen .. also we dont know what yeonwoo did to upset taehwan to the point that he acts like this (without reading raws) so its difficult for me to sympathize and same goes for what intensely traumatized him ... we havent seen it nor do we know about it so i cant sympathize. also the whole thing with dojin and taehee makes me not like him because of how he acted in the situation. sure, its unfair to assume the average person would act calmly especially given how much he treasures his brother but the fact that he made himself the victim in the situation without taking a second to think “yeah its understandable they didnt tell me because of what ive said before & its hard in general coming out” or something along the lines .... again im not entirely sure as to why i despise him to the degree i do but i just do and unless i see some AWFUL trauma or some BIG redemption its gonna stay that way