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Thanks for making this list. I'm glad there's more people who don't think rape is "hot" or...

kimchi February 29, 2016 8:04 am

Thanks for making this list. I'm glad there's more people who don't think rape is "hot" or whatever (and it's really common on here. I got down voted a lot when I said it wasn't lmao). Sadly, I read yaoi more than yuri, but only because there's hardly any good ones and they're either over sexual or sad, tragic stories :/
Oh and if you want a yuri to read I'm reading Virgins Empire ( http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/virgins_empire/). It's cute and there's different couples. They're somewhat sexualized, but it's something.

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    this_is_a_mistake March 2, 2016 8:28 am

    Hey! Thanks for the recommendation! I'll check it out.

    Also regarding rape in yaoi / stories (the violation of bodily consent can be also prolifically found in shoujo/smut/romance novels as well): My current theory is that it serves to fulfill the "need" the character either wasn't aware of or didn't want to permit themselves to indulge in, and therefore that makes it Actually Consensual in the eyes of the reader.

    Well, it doesn't. But the way we're socialized does lend itself to that interpretation, to the fact that I, as an asexual person who really squicks out when it comes to Actual People having sex, still gain a strange enjoyment when this trope is deployed (often).

    Which is why rape yaoi still appears on my list, though I comment about it / consent problems. I'm definitely not proud of it, and someday if/when I am more mentally stable, I do wish that I would find a way to become ~disinterested~ in these kind of stories. To unlearn it, rather. Right now though I appear to be using it as a coping mechanism (whoops).

    As for people who say that it doesn't matter as long as people realize that fictional rape is separate from rape in reality, I would ask them to reconsider the way common story narratives influence feelings of obligation (giving up consent) in a culture / relationships. The argument that fictional rape =/= real rape would be more understandable if it wasn't, you know, basically in every yaoi ever, but as it is now it's important to understand that representation in fictional media influences people.

    At the very least, I hope everyone can reach the step of saying: What goes on in this yaoi is a violation of consent and rape, but I read it anyway.

    And then I hope someday that people (or me on my own) can graduate from these kinds of common representations and make media that portrays healthier alternatives so that the proportion of rape = love/good representations become the minimum.

    Anyway! Sorry for this long response! I just felt that I maybe had to explain some of my choices (making this list, etc.) m(_ _)m

    Hope you have a great day!

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