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Which character, that has gone for a long time, do you never want to see again?

Tea April 7, 2016 2:51 pm

I must be one of the few who does not want feilong to ever come back. Whenever I reread I tend to skip his scenes. Which character, that has gone for a long time, do you never want to see again?

Responses
    Lightasus April 7, 2016 3:14 pm

    Not a fan of Fei Long either. I wouldn't be totally against it, as long as there's a logical reason he's coming back and not just for the sake of fan service, but yeah, I'm rather neutral toward the guy. Wouldn't want too much of him, I find him boring for some reason. Can't pinpoint exactly why.

    But honestly I'm not a fan of the Hong Kong Arc to begin with. Feels too overly dramatic to me, not enough Akihito X Asami action and well I just love the silliness of some of their interactions. When I reread I just sort of skip the Hong Kong Arc :L..

    Reality bites April 7, 2016 3:53 pm

    And every one has the right to feel read the manga the way they want to.

    Anonymous April 7, 2016 4:19 pm

    I am bitterly unhappy that Sudou didn't die like a normal person and lingers on to moon ineffectually over Asami. I'd like him to be gone for good. I find him weak and uninteresting and a most unworthy foe for Asami or Akihito.

    Anonymous April 7, 2016 4:43 pm
    Not a fan of Fei Long either. I wouldn't be totally against it, as long as there's a logical reason he's coming back and not just for the sake of fan service, but yeah, I'm rather neutral toward the guy. Wouldn... Lightasus

    Speaking of fanservice, Fei has gotten more than his fair share. He was supposed to die at the end of the Hong Kong arc and sensei gave him a reprieve for fans. Then she brought him back in all his wet, naked glory for the onsen extra. And then he gets his own freaking novel. And greedy fans think they deserve more. Too bad. Like it or not, he is not the main character of this manga.

    LadyLigeia April 7, 2016 5:10 pm
    I am bitterly unhappy that Sudou didn't die like a normal person and lingers on to moon ineffectually over Asami. I'd like him to be gone for good. I find him weak and uninteresting and a most unworthy foe for ... @Anonymous

    I find Sudou interesting, and he allows to go ahead with the plot. Just as I said some posts before: this story is interesting because of the PLOT. Every character is important from that point of view, even Sudou and Sakazaki.

    LadyLigeia April 7, 2016 5:11 pm
    And every one has the right to feel read the manga the way they want to. @Reality bites

    Always agree with you. :)

    LadyLigeia April 7, 2016 5:15 pm
    Speaking of fanservice, Fei has gotten more than his fair share. He was supposed to die at the end of the Hong Kong arc and sensei gave him a reprieve for fans. Then she brought him back in all his wet, naked g... @Anonymous

    Probably she knew that she had to continue with the story and kept him alive. Do you know why? Because a good author doesn't kill her/his good characters if that person knows that they can be used in other occasions profitably.

    Anonymous April 7, 2016 5:27 pm
    Probably she knew that she had to continue with the story and kept him alive. Do you know why? Because a good author doesn't kill her/his good characters if that person knows that they can be used in other occa... LadyLigeia

    Nope. She has said he was originally slated for death at the end of volume five. She only kept him alive because of fan demand, and that demand was primarily from international fans, not from Japanese fans. She had no plans to keep him alive after the Hong Kong arc, so would that suggest she didn't consider him a "good character"? Or is she just not a good author? I mean, that's kind of a silly supposition. Good characters die in fine literature all the time.

    Anon April 7, 2016 6:16 pm

    I also don't wish to see Fei Long return. Have really no interest in seeing any of the naked truth characters return but we already have mikhail coming in so idk who's next. Sensei doesn't seem to kill of the bad guys. The only one who has been killed so far is Yuri and even that's not 100% confirmed. I just hope Sudou gets a fitting punishment at the end if this arc and that villains don't keep on returning.

    tokidoki April 7, 2016 6:35 pm
    Probably she knew that she had to continue with the story and kept him alive. Do you know why? Because a good author doesn't kill her/his good characters if that person knows that they can be used in other occa... LadyLigeia

    Tell that to the enormously popular George RR Martin, who kills off so many of his characters, yet people keep watching/reading the Game of Thrones series ...

    LadyLigeia April 7, 2016 6:39 pm
    Nope. She has said he was originally slated for death at the end of volume five. She only kept him alive because of fan demand, and that demand was primarily from international fans, not from Japanese fans. She... @Anonymous

    I said the exact opposite: It's better not to kill your good characters (your quality characters/important ones) if you're planning to continue a story. I you have to kill one of them, it would be better to kill it at the last part of the story (not in the middle). And from my point of view, she didn't kill Feilong because of the fans, but it could have been her editor who told her not to kill him. A good character can turn useful if the story, if the story has to continue for a long period of time. I have a realistic point of view about so many things.

    LadyLigeia April 7, 2016 6:47 pm
    Tell that to the enormously popular George RR Martin, who kills off so many of his characters, yet people keep watching/reading the Game of Thrones series ... tokidoki

    Probably that story is set in a different way, I don't watch game of Thrones and I hardly know something about it. But tell me what would happen if in Hamlet all the main characters were dead in the middle of the story?

    Lightasus April 7, 2016 7:03 pm
    Probably that story is set in a different way, I don't watch game of Thrones and I hardly know something about it. But tell me what would happen if in Hamlet all the main characters were dead in the middle of t... LadyLigeia

    It's only one character and he would've been killed off to fulfill the last part of his role (it probably had a purpose in the story too). We're not talking about killing Akihito and Asami too midway.

    Though to be fair, she was planning on ending Finder after this one arc originally.

    LadyLigeia April 7, 2016 7:32 pm
    It's only one character and he would've been killed off to fulfill the last part of his role (it probably had a purpose in the story too). We're not talking about killing Akihito and Asami too midway.Though to ... Lightasus

    Just as I thought, if she was planning on ending finder with that Arc, Feilong's death would have been completely justified and would have had a reason.

    tokidoki April 7, 2016 9:51 pm
    Probably that story is set in a different way, I don't watch game of Thrones and I hardly know something about it. But tell me what would happen if in Hamlet all the main characters were dead in the middle of t... LadyLigeia

    Hmmm, I read the books, and the story goes on for five books so far - with 400+ pages per ... and so far 30 characters (or so) have died - Hamlet could have worked the same way - just add new people ... it would be a different story than the one we are familiar with, but equally valid.

    LadyLigeia April 7, 2016 10:14 pm
    Hmmm, I read the books, and the story goes on for five books so far - with 400+ pages per ... and so far 30 characters (or so) have died - Hamlet could have worked the same way - just add new people ... it woul... tokidoki

    So sorry, I didn't realize that you were talking about the books. To be able to do what you're saying, an author should have the ability to build so many characters, one behind the other, otherwise it would be difficult to "kill" characters and provide to build others as interesting as the old ones. :)

    J Unleashed April 7, 2016 10:16 pm
    Hmmm, I read the books, and the story goes on for five books so far - with 400+ pages per ... and so far 30 characters (or so) have died - Hamlet could have worked the same way - just add new people ... it woul... tokidoki

    Reading your conversation reminds me of the GoT Honest Trailer. Probably you've seen it (30 million views, lol), but seeing how the subject is about authors who wantonly kill of their characters, it's good for a replay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVaD8rouJn0

    Anonymous April 7, 2016 11:07 pm
    Tell that to the enormously popular George RR Martin, who kills off so many of his characters, yet people keep watching/reading the Game of Thrones series ... tokidoki

    Tokidoki, you and I had the same thought, it seems When I read the other anon's reply regarding "Good characters die in fine literature all the time.", I immediately thought: Yeah... NED STARK! And they better not lay a hand on Tyrion Lannister, lol!

    Anonymous April 7, 2016 11:16 pm

    Tea, while I like Fei a lot, I think it's perfectly alright to say if you don't and don't wish for him to return. After all we all have our likes, dislikes and different reasons to be drawn into the story. :) I for one wouldn't mind seeing him return, but as was said by somebody earlier in this thread (I think it was Lightasus), I wouldn't want it to be fan service, but as part of a really good plot development. And I wouldn't want it to be as an adversary of Asami again (I would find that rather boring), but in way where they join forces against a third party. The current plotline would provide such a development (and after all, we already have Mikhail A. making a return, so why not Fei), but we will have to see if she does in fact consider it or go there. As a principle - book, TV, movie, manga, anime, whatever - I only ever want to see a character return if he/she really adds to the plot and drives the story further. And that's regardless of how much I may or may not like the character.

    tokidoki April 7, 2016 11:31 pm
    Tokidoki, you and I had the same thought, it seems When I read the other anon's reply regarding "Good characters die in fine literature all the time.", I immediately thought: Yeah... NED STARK! And they better... @Anonymous

    Romeo and Juliet died too - and my favourite character from Steven King's The Stand, my fave from the movie Red Dawn ... list could go on and on - so - yeah, sensei can get rid of, or write out whoever she wants - this is her story to tell. LOL