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Hmmm... I have the feeling that something very important is missing here ... It's the fac...

Mikami May 23, 2021 11:36 pm

Hmmm... I have the feeling that something very important is missing here ... It's the fact that Harada doesn't seem to be primarily about depicting rape as it is, but rather about the perspective from the protagonist. Reo loves him with all his heart. But the occurrences and differences between their personalities make it impossible to convey that. He doesn't even know that it's not seen the way he feels. But that doesn't make him dumb. I'm sorry for him and it's a shame that everyone immediately demonises him just because his character doesn't conform to the norm. I hope he finds someone who can understand him and reciprocate his feelings.

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    spiff May 24, 2021 12:44 am

    You mean someone who will be okay with him raping them. Guy needs fucking mental help, not love.

    Moemoekyun May 24, 2021 12:55 am
    You mean someone who will be okay with him raping them. Guy needs fucking mental help, not love. spiff

    More like a guy whod explain him how to behave more like a human. He's weird and there's clearly something wrong in the way he was brought up.So i think thats what the og meant.The victim guy in this manga is too scared(and i mean since the beginning,and i dont blame him for it but that just makes things worse) to even deal with Reo

    spiff May 24, 2021 1:02 am
    More like a guy whod explain him how to behave more like a human. He's weird and there's clearly something wrong in the way he was brought up.So i think thats what the og meant.The victim guy in this manga is t... Moemoekyun

    Yeah, like maybeee A DOCTOR. A PSYCHOLOGIST.

    spiff May 24, 2021 1:04 am
    Yeah, like maybeee A DOCTOR. A PSYCHOLOGIST. spiff

    Hell maybe even PRISON or a fucking psych ward of he’s so fucked in the head. I mean the man feels no remorse after doing what he’s done and doesn’t respond to obvious signs of fear and distress. He’s fucked in the head and needs help.

    Mikami May 24, 2021 1:05 am
    You mean someone who will be okay with him raping them. Guy needs fucking mental help, not love. spiff

    No, that's not what i mean.

    Moemoekyun May 24, 2021 1:07 am
    Yeah, like maybeee A DOCTOR. A PSYCHOLOGIST. spiff

    Id want that but i didnt even mention it cause this is yaoi and THEY dont do that here

    Mikami May 24, 2021 1:16 am
    Hell maybe even PRISON or a fucking psych ward of he’s so fucked in the head. I mean the man feels no remorse after doing what he’s done and doesn’t respond to obvious signs of fear and distress. He’s f... spiff

    It's like our conversation. That's the best example. Two completely different personalities who see the world from different angles. One sees love and the other sees rape. I see both in the story and that's exactly what I wanted to express.

    GrassJuice May 24, 2021 1:38 am

    I don’t wish him to find someone who he’ll love and nor does he deserve one stop feeling pity for the rapist

    Moemoekyun May 24, 2021 1:46 am
    I don’t wish him to find someone who he’ll love and nor does he deserve one stop feeling pity for the rapist GrassJuice

    Nope.Its clearly different. He's not a rapist who raped him for sexual gratification or revenge or smthng.Hes genuienly thinks that mc is in love with him and they're dating somehow.Its doesnt excuse his actions and he should be sentenced to time in prison (after a diagnosis) and get treatment before he ever makes it back to society, but i think he's very close to a schizophrenic or smthng. His brain is clearly not developed enough.There is something wrong with the way he was brought up.Its like giving a gun to a 7 yr old and he shoots someone but it was meant as a jk or smthng.

    GrassJuice May 24, 2021 1:52 am
    Nope.Its clearly different. He's not a rapist who raped him for sexual gratification or revenge or smthng.Hes genuienly thinks that mc is in love with him and they're dating somehow.Its doesnt excuse his action... Moemoekyun

    So basically he isn’t ”that bad” just because he didn’t do it for sexual gratification nor revenge?? Rape is rape no one fucking cares why they did it nor do we care more if he knew or not NO IS NO does reo not know what no means??? And him being one big ass dumb bitch doesn’t excuse what he did and will probably continue to do stop feeling bad for the rapist

    spiff May 24, 2021 1:56 am
    So basically he isn’t ”that bad” just because he didn’t do it for sexual gratification nor revenge?? Rape is rape no one fucking cares why they did it nor do we care more if he knew or not NO IS NO does... GrassJuice

    this here. lol like not to be that bitch but literally I’m a victim of sexual assault. I don’t care if the fucker who did what he did to me was in love, he should rot in prison.

    GrassJuice May 24, 2021 2:06 am
    this here. lol like not to be that bitch but literally I’m a victim of sexual assault. I don’t care if the fucker who did what he did to me was in love, he should rot in prison. spiff

    They’re literally excusing his actions because he’s stupid because ”he didn’t mean anything bad” because they feel pity for him since he obviously has mental problems and they’re also using those mental problems to excuse what he is doing

    Moemoekyun May 24, 2021 2:10 am
    So basically he isn’t ”that bad” just because he didn’t do it for sexual gratification nor revenge?? Rape is rape no one fucking cares why they did it nor do we care more if he knew or not NO IS NO does... GrassJuice

    I did say it doesnt excuse what he did and that he should get tried for it as the court would see fit but there if there is a reason behind why a person does what he does especially if it criminal activity its important to look more into the matter than to just give conclusions based off of emotions.It helps prevent such crimes in the future as well.That why we look at criminal backstories and might end up feeling sad for them if the way they is a result from abuse they suffered as a child, tho they do (as they should) get punished for it.

    Moemoekyun May 24, 2021 2:14 am
    I did say it doesnt excuse what he did and that he should get tried for it as the court would see fit but there if there is a reason behind why a person does what he does especially if it criminal activity its ... Moemoekyun

    Looking into the stories helps prevent such incidents in future and also prevent trauma that might make people into rapists and murderers.

    GrassJuice May 24, 2021 2:22 am
    Looking into the stories helps prevent such incidents in future and also prevent trauma that might make people into rapists and murderers. Moemoekyun

    Im literally just saying what he is I don’t care about his reasoning and it’s not because you have past trauma that it means you’re gonna become a rapist and taking pity on a rapist isn’t gonna make rapist magically disappear nor calm it down

    Moemoekyun May 24, 2021 2:28 am
    They’re literally excusing his actions because he’s stupid because ”he didn’t mean anything bad” because they feel pity for him since he obviously has mental problems and they’re also using those me... GrassJuice

    Id agree if the attacker was drugged,disillusioned by mental problems and the victims say,"idc they should be hanged" and i believe is completely justified on their part and it'd be ridiculous to expect them to be an angel.If someone else has been a victim of sexual assault and feels that way towards this attacker that also is reasonable but as a third person judging this situation i would look at both sides of the coin and if possible try to help them both.
    Which essentially is the purpose of prison as well.You dont get hanged for rape;You go to prison and serve your sentence,retrospect on your actions till you are reformed into a person who can again return to the society.

    Moemoekyun May 24, 2021 2:34 am
    Im literally just saying what he is I don’t care about his reasoning and it’s not because you have past trauma that it means you’re gonna become a rapist and taking pity on a rapist isn’t gonna make rap... GrassJuice

    Im also saying he is a rapist but just not a rapist who did this for sexual gratification or revenge.Some times a person's past can make them do heinious things and i take pity on the person's fate that he had to suffer from a past that led them to become a monster.I wished theyd never been subjected to that fate so that victim as a consequence of that also wouldnt have had to suffer the way they did.

    Moemoekyun May 24, 2021 2:35 am
    Id agree if the attacker was drugged,disillusioned by mental problems and the victims say,"idc they should be hanged" and i believe is completely justified on their part and it'd be ridiculous to expect them to... Moemoekyun

    *illustioned

    Moemoekyun May 24, 2021 2:56 am
    Im also saying he is a rapist but just not a rapist who did this for sexual gratification or revenge.Some times a person's past can make them do heinious things and i take pity on the person's fate that he had ... Moemoekyun

    It's fine if you feel that making the rapist suffer is the best solution but for me would be the rape not happening in the first place hence eradicating the root cause of it.Because even if you do punish them the harm had already been done to an innocent soul.
    Personally I feel rapists who rape for sexual gratification and revenge are much less reformable than if they do it because of a mental disease or retardation.

    GrassJuice May 24, 2021 3:01 am
    It's fine if you feel that making the rapist suffer is the best solution but for me would be the rape not happening in the first place hence eradicating the root cause of it.Because even if you do punish them t... Moemoekyun

    You never once day you didn’t want him to exist at all you’ve only ever said that you feel bad for him because of the past we don’t even know off?? He has a stable family life that’s all we know for now and even if he had a dramatic past I’d only feel bad for him if he’d had never raped him and still rape is rape wether you consider his reasoning ”less bad” once you purposely traumatize someone to the point they start to tremble in front of you you’re a fucking monster I don’t care if you have a sad past