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A rant

iipockyii May 27, 2021 4:29 pm

At least Seungho cleaned Nakyum up and he's like, one of the worst Male leads in BL. Taesung what's going on buddy?

Ok, all jokes aside I wanna talk about this manwha. Long story short this shit is problematic and romanticizes abuse. You know shit is bad when the R@pist (blonde-haired guy) is better than the ACTUAL male lead. I feel like this manwha has the same problem with a lot of ongoing BL, which is a lack of direction. From the first chapter, this manwha seemed to be about a boxer struggling with his debt, and dealing with an injury. And to some degree, it was unique and fresh to see. However, as the story continued it lost what made it interesting in the first place.


Okay first. I have no problem with a dominant partner and a more submissive one however there needs to a power balance. This relationship is not balanced. it seems like Sooyoung is powerless and defenseless when it comes to Taesung. This is really odd considering his personality change since the first few chapters. He was a lot rougher around the edges. So far it's been, Sooyoung getting in trouble, taesung saves him and they have intense sex for like 5 chapters. It's getting really repetitive and some of these sex scenes are....disturbing, to say the least. I feel like the story would be nicer if they were more equal in the relationship. I'm not asking for much, but it would be nice to see Sooyoung state his opinion without fear of getting slapped, y'know? They could've been a power couple :/


Second, what the actual fuck is the plot? Every time I think the story is going somewhere it gets interrupted by 4 chapters of sex. Like yall remember Jisung–His ex. That's right, we never got a proper conclusion to his story because it got interrupted by a sex scene


Third, the blonde-haired guy. I'm 99 percent sure the author made him a R@pist just so the audience wouldn't like him because he's way better than Taesung ever was. This is so funny considering the fact that Taesung himself is ALSO a r@pist. But anyways we as the viewer have gotten more back story with him than we have with Taesung. which is really fucking odd since Taesung is one of the main characters. Not to mention, Minhyuk (I finally remembered his name) has shown more empathy and regret to what he had done to Sooyoung than Taesung ever has. Literally, there have been maybe 1-2 instances where Taesung actually admitted he was wrong, and for all the shit that he did. That isn't a lot. Atp I'm rooting for Sooyoung to leave this environment altogether, but if I had to pick a character for him to end up with it would be Either Minhyuk or Minhyuk's ex. They've both shown more care for Jisung's well-being than Taesung. Like Taesung doesn't even ask if Sooyoung is okay during sex, he's like a dog in heat. The amount of times this man has passed out while doing it should raise some eyebrows on how Taesung is physically treating Sooyoung.

Responses
    asunin May 27, 2021 4:34 pm

    You just wrote what I was thinking the whole time. People don't wanna hear this because the story is popular but it's the truth.

    notyourfriend May 27, 2021 4:34 pm

    THIS.

    elfiemouse May 27, 2021 4:38 pm

    Great rant, I agree 100%. It’s getting so boring. The original sex scenes with Taesung were amazing, some of the hottest I read, but they’re just empty now. Honestly, I’m reading for Minhyuk. Or at least hoping the author pulls a bait and switch and writes a unique ending for once.

    See you in hell May 27, 2021 5:35 pm

    Minhyuk has never raped Taesung tho…. Yeah they kissed n it wasn’t consensual so technically it was just sexual assault and has not advanced to rape yet… & idk bout y’all but like I don’t see their sex scenes as rape yet. That could just be because I’m a huge masochist…. And I like it as rough as this. Y r ppl always yelling abuse, when it’s not??? As someone who was in an actual abusive relationship the only manga tht made my trauma re-emerge is Dining with the vampire… The ex was so abusive and u can tell the difference between the ex over there and Sooyoung, I just see the sex as like a bdsm awakening type shit since I’ve also gone through tht & my thought process was exactly like Taesung. This story is obviously not for the faint of heart and is for the kinky ass people. If u want something cute read Sign not something tht is tagged psychological and smut… I mean it’s like y’all didn’t read the tags and went straight in thinking this was gonna be fluff.

    See you in hell May 27, 2021 5:39 pm
    Minhyuk has never raped Taesung tho…. Yeah they kissed n it wasn’t consensual so technically it was just sexual assault and has not advanced to rape yet… & idk bout y’all but like I don’t see thei... See you in hell

    Not me getting the names mixed up ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄

    iipockyii May 27, 2021 5:53 pm
    Minhyuk has never raped Taesung tho…. Yeah they kissed n it wasn’t consensual so technically it was just sexual assault and has not advanced to rape yet… & idk bout y’all but like I don’t see thei... See you in hell

    I mean this respectfully as possible but shut the fuck up “maybe it’s because I’m a huge masochist,” NOBODY CARES NIGGA he was in the process of doing it. Whether you classify it as r@p3 or not it was still fucked up. He slid his dick between his thighs, he was gonna insert. It wasn’t “just a kiss”. I didn’t come expecting fluff, I came expecting a story that would make some sort of sense. I prefer psychological and tragedy over most genres but this is just...not good? This isn’t BDSM, this is lack of consideration for their partner. No safe word, doesn’t even bother helping him afterwards, CONSTANTLY ignoring when he tells him to stop.


    Taesung is controlling, obsessive and doesn’t care for the Sooyoung’s well being. You don’t need to be breaking someone’s jaw in order to be abusive you dumb fuck

    See you in hell May 27, 2021 6:57 pm
    I mean this respectfully as possible but shut the fuck up “maybe it’s because I’m a huge masochist,” NOBODY CARES NIGGA he was in the process of doing it. Whether you classify it as r@p3 or not it was s... iipockyii

    I totally forgot about the whole thigh thing, from my remembrance I only remember the kiss, but like shit still stands Tht was sexual assault not rape.

    Yeah obviously at this point there is no proper bdsm shit happening, I didn’t know about safe word or proper after care until like a month in, Hopefully if the author is going down the bdsm line than hopefully we will see some actual proper bdsm use care involved but like damn Whts wrong with being a lil obsessive, I personally enjoy possessive lovers.

    And abusive is Sooyoungs ex, it was clear tht Sooyoung was scared of his ex. We’re not getting any sort of inclination that Sooyoung is afraid of Taesung. Literally nothing has changed from the beginning of the story if anything he’s less abusive now than before. Before he straight up punching the nigga, but now it’s just kinky. But it’s just weird how not a lot of people were complaining about the beginning but now all of a sudden “The sex make me uncomfy” like honestly stfu if u don’t like it than stop reading it, y’all mad impatient, y’all don’t even know if eventually in some type of turn in events they will have some proper communication and live happily ever after. Or maybe Sooyoung realizes “huh… maybe I don’t like this” & when he does he’ll fucking leave than y’all can be like “omg Taesung is so abusive” but y’all just look dumb when it’s clear he does enjoy the sex… And he likes when Taesung is possessive.

    Maybe we just lookin at this in different sides but y’all so stuck on “this is rape n this is abuse” when ur not even acknowledging that maybe he fuckin likes it. Like Wht if he likes it? Wht if he wholeheartedly enjoys it and next thing we know is they doin bondage and cradle play??? Like I acknowledge this shit is toxic. Cause yeah this shit is toxiccccccccc. This as toxic as Killing stalking, & Painter of the night. But no one was complaining about how abusive those shits were if anything we were there BECAUSE it’s toxic and we was waiting for the character development, so I just don’t see y y’all aren’t even thinking maybe there will be some type of damn character development??? Or maybe there won’t be. Damn maybe Whts the point of brooding cause maybe the author is just gonna kill one of em or both of em, anything can happen.

    But at least I have the capability to acknowledge like this is toxic and one of them if not both of them is gonna have some type of psychological damage or already damaged, Maybe they’ll fix eachother and we’ll see em grow, but like y’all can’t even go past the toxicity but yet some of y’all say the same shit but come back next week to say the same shit again… If u truthfully don’t like this shit than Y r u still reading???

    See you in hell May 27, 2021 7:00 pm
    I mean this respectfully as possible but shut the fuck up “maybe it’s because I’m a huge masochist,” NOBODY CARES NIGGA he was in the process of doing it. Whether you classify it as r@p3 or not it was s... iipockyii

    Also ya need to calm tf down… don’t pull out the nine.

    asunin May 27, 2021 7:11 pm
    Minhyuk has never raped Taesung tho…. Yeah they kissed n it wasn’t consensual so technically it was just sexual assault and has not advanced to rape yet… & idk bout y’all but like I don’t see thei... See you in hell

    This shit is toxic and you can't tell me otherwise. I don't remember it that good since I dropped this but I do recall that one chapter where the uke was kidnapped or something and the seme knew about that the whole time and didn't tried to stop that shit from happening, instead he showed up later so that it seems like he came to rescue him, like he's some hero lmao. If people are triggered by this manhwa let them be. I love psychological stories but this one right here doesn't have the plot, it's just about rough sex.

    asunin May 27, 2021 7:14 pm

    Btw, there are different types of abuse. He doesn't have to hit him for it to be abuse.

    See you in hell May 27, 2021 7:18 pm
    This shit is toxic and you can't tell me otherwise. I don't remember it that good since I dropped this but I do recall that one chapter where the uke was kidnapped or something and the seme knew about that the ... asunin

    Ohhh yeahhhh this shit is toxic asf, at the beginning I was also gonna drop it but than I saw the raws. The sex is just up my alley so I’m just staying for the sex at this point… plus I feel like we shouldn’t be expecting much plot since this is tagged as smut & smut is… u know smut. Hopefully in between the smut we get some character development but than again it’s smut so I doubt, but we can be hopeful.

    asunin May 27, 2021 7:22 pm
    Ohhh yeahhhh this shit is toxic asf, at the beginning I was also gonna drop it but than I saw the raws. The sex is just up my alley so I’m just staying for the sex at this point… plus I feel like we shouldn... See you in hell

    I agree that the sex scenes were good but I just expected more and ended up disappointed. ( ̄へ ̄)

    See you in hell May 27, 2021 7:23 pm
    Btw, there are different types of abuse. He doesn't have to hit him for it to be abuse. asunin

    Yeah ik tht but I’m just not seein any type of mental abuse, there is manipulation involved though, I do see the deception but at the same time I don’t see the mental abuse & im usually very quick with sensing emotional and mental abuses but I just don’t see it tbh. Maybe my mind is just clouded by the sex tht I’m not really focusing on the dialogue but I’ll reread it, to see if y’all r seeing something I just ain’t catching. Cause all ik is this is toxic but it’s kinda addicting.

    See you in hell May 27, 2021 7:31 pm
    I agree that the sex scenes were good but I just expected more and ended up disappointed. ( ̄へ ̄) asunin

    Yeah i think this is honestly just “how many kinks can we put in one book” like man they using all the kinks in the book at this pointtttttttt. The plot got lost tbhhhh and I already came to the conclusion that it might not even return but I am staying hopeful for tht character development but x for doubt. I already read the raws and I already know ppl r gonna have a field day about Minhyuk.

    *spoiler* I think Minhyuk might actually do the full nine yards n rape Taesung in chapter 52 & I’m not ready for tht and I stg the author better not let tht happen. Cause if tht happens there’s no way I can defend Minhyuk. Like I love him but like baby noooooooo. I was iffy about the drunk situation but u showed remorse so don’t let me downnnnn.

    iipockyii May 27, 2021 7:33 pm
    Yeah ik tht but I’m just not seein any type of mental abuse, there is manipulation involved though, I do see the deception but at the same time I don’t see the mental abuse & im usually very quick with ... See you in hell

    all that dick is getting to ur head. People can love their abuser. Shit happens all the time. But this relationship is toxic as fuck. Prime example is the choking chapter. Taesung had no way of knowing that Sooyoung liked to be choked. Even sooyoung didn’t know it himself, BUT, Taesung still chocked him. Mind you he wasn’t tryna be kinky, he was chocking him out of anger it’s just that things went in their favour. Please next time actually read the story before trying to debate me on the plot The sex is just one of the many problems. Idgaf if you enjoy this story. You can like something and still criticize it. I’m not hating, just pointing out the faults

    asunin May 27, 2021 7:35 pm
    Yeah ik tht but I’m just not seein any type of mental abuse, there is manipulation involved though, I do see the deception but at the same time I don’t see the mental abuse & im usually very quick with ... See you in hell

    Don't feel bad if you like it lmao, I've also read some really fucked up stories so I'm not the one to judge

    See you in hell May 27, 2021 8:16 pm
    all that dick is getting to ur head. People can love their abuser. Shit happens all the time. But this relationship is toxic as fuck. Prime example is the choking chapter. Taesung had no way of knowing that Soo... iipockyii

    Ok had to reread both scenes. I read reread the Minhyuk drunk scene (Chapter 20) n th choke scene (Chapter 43)

    So rereading Minhyuk scene yeah ok so tht was a lot worse than initial reading. And rereading it makes me feel like Minhyuk is worse than Taesung because the way he treated tht dude was soooo bad. Had no regards to tht poor dude.

    Also Choke scene, Taesung was mad aggressive but it wasn’t for no reason tho. Sooyoung was acting like a total Brat (Bdsm term not like an actual brat) with the whole running away shit when he was still in danger, like ppl was out to get him and he ran away because a bitch smiled…. if tht ain’t brat behavior idk wht tf is. And In the dialogue he literally said “I know I shouldn’t like this sort of thing… but it feel so”

    And after his lil squirt fountain Taesung even acknowledged and apologized saying “I’m sorry I went to far.” And either during or after he also coached his breathing & I forgot if it was a sex before this or this sex tht he did take him to the bathroom and did some proper aftercare, idk y he stopped doin tht but oof.

    So i understand wht u mean by there was no inclination tht he would like being choke but literally 5 chapters before there was spank play n he enjoyed tht… soooo…. I think it’s safe to say Sooyong is kinkyyyy and likes it rough.

    See you in hell May 27, 2021 8:22 pm
    Ok had to reread both scenes. I read reread the Minhyuk drunk scene (Chapter 20) n th choke scene (Chapter 43)So rereading Minhyuk scene yeah ok so tht was a lot worse than initial reading. And rereading it mak... See you in hell

    Also forgot Wht chapter but One of Sooyoungs thought dialogue was literally “All I could think of is how is he gonna punish me” Sissssssss IDK Wht u see tht I don’t see but bruhhhh Sooyong is a freaky lil thang with a bratty personality… periodddddddttt

    elfiemouse May 28, 2021 7:51 am
    all that dick is getting to ur head. People can love their abuser. Shit happens all the time. But this relationship is toxic as fuck. Prime example is the choking chapter. Taesung had no way of knowing that Soo... iipockyii

    At this point Im hoping the author is purposely writing an abusive relationship only to allow Sooyoung freedom at the end. Like, he realizes Taesung is as abusive as his ex and bails. I don't have much hope though. I do hope he and Minhyuk sleep together consensually at some point though, that would give me life

    iipockyii May 28, 2021 11:59 am
    Ok had to reread both scenes. I read reread the Minhyuk drunk scene (Chapter 20) n th choke scene (Chapter 43)So rereading Minhyuk scene yeah ok so tht was a lot worse than initial reading. And rereading it mak... See you in hell

    Oh my fucking God, stop trying to debate me on this shit. IN THE LATER FUCKING CHAPTERS Minhyuk thought about what he did and regretted it to some degree. After the incident, he's been thinking about Sooyoung. stop ignoring obvious red flags to fulfill your kinks. Taesung never did aftercare, never talked about a safe word, and had sex on multiple occasions to make Sooyoung pass out. Please STFU about regrets when you're literally defending Taesung. But like I've been saying my original point still stands. Anytime the story gets interesting they interrupt it for these necessary ass sex scenes, which no one gives a fuck about.