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Junjo Romantica #2?

Lightasus June 20, 2016 12:01 pm

Really wonder if it's going to go down in Junjo Romantica's route... Their case seem so alike X_x
https://twitter.com/kimuhalu/status/505207433053343744
https://www.facebook.com/eserpess.morgana/videos/o.127425424027505/1144507948895248/?type=2&theater

Then again, there's still sensei's tweet, maybe they found out the miracle solution.

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    Lightasus June 20, 2016 12:10 pm

    Oh, and just read about that theory, but it does seem likely that they cancelled the license because of the kickstarters that they were doing with their titles. They probably weren't approved by Libre and thus just found out about them.

    Reality bites June 20, 2016 2:01 pm

    I thought the fans did the kickstarter on thier own.

    Reality bites June 20, 2016 2:06 pm

    thanks for the info

    LadyLigeia June 20, 2016 2:32 pm

    Thanks!

    Anoni Grrl June 20, 2016 3:26 pm

    Thanks. I have to believe things will work out.

    Reality bites June 20, 2016 4:01 pm

    Cheer up! We have music and David Bowie. Suoh gives great foot baths in the nursing home. Asami will read chap. of Vf. in his boxers. That virtual reality is amazing!

    LadyLigeia June 20, 2016 4:51 pm
    Cheer up! We have music and David Bowie. Suoh gives great foot baths in the nursing home. Asami will read chap. of Vf. in his boxers. That virtual reality is amazing! @Reality bites

    Really amazing! (≧∀≦)(≧∀≦)

    J Unleashed Prime June 20, 2016 5:48 pm

    Being a manga consumer, I'm not too happy with the kickstarters either. It has kind of a sleazy feel to it.

    Seeing SuBLime's yaoi list, I had no idea they were publishing Crimson Spell. It was formerly published by Kitty Media. SuBLime picked it up in 2013, reprinted Vols. 1 and 2, and then continued it from Vol. 3.

    They seem to have snatched up all the popular yaoi titles (check it out here: https://www.sublimemanga.com/titles/ag ). Hopefully VF is a tempting enough morsel for them.

    And I'm an idiot... I JUST caught on why the B and L is capitalized in their name.

    Lightasus June 20, 2016 7:38 pm
    I thought the fans did the kickstarter on thier own. @Reality bites

    Nah, it's DMP themselves. They already have created 15 kickstarters in total to license other series as well.

    Reality bites June 21, 2016 10:27 am

    Who would trust Dmp now?

    Lightasus June 21, 2016 11:47 am
    Being a manga consumer, I'm not too happy with the kickstarters either. It has kind of a sleazy feel to it. Seeing SuBLime's yaoi list, I had no idea they were publishing Crimson Spell. It was formerly publishe... J Unleashed Prime

    Yeah, I'd totally buy more from them if they used the original manga format with the cover pages and all rather than this Americanized format :/ (really, the only thing preventing me switching from French to English aha). Because they seem like a great company, they answer promptly to questions, usually the president herself (JenniferLeBlanc), answers are down to earth, and everyone seems happy with the quality.

    Oh well, I bought a few of their digital stuff. It's great because they send you the pdf (with your name on it). So you can actually read it everywhere with a pdf reader. Or you can read it on their manga reader on their website.

    But yeah, they're pretty much having the yaoi monopoly. A good thing. Ten Count, Love Stage!!, Sekaiichi Hatsukoi, Crimson Spell... If only Finder hadn't been reprinted recently, they'd have cash flowing from a license right away.

    They still haven't answered for Finder and it's not the weekend anymore, so it's not a downright no for the moment I guess.

    Reality bites June 21, 2016 12:44 pm

    do they(DMP) get all the money/ I think the fans think they are supporting the writers.

    Lightasus June 21, 2016 12:58 pm
    do they(DMP) get all the money/ I think the fans think they are supporting the writers. @Reality bites

    English Publisher pays for the rights -> some of this goes to the creator -> what you pay goes to the English Publisher -> if enough people are buying the manga volumes then the English publisher will continue to buy the rights to similar series

    Lightasus June 21, 2016 12:59 pm

    And just in case, DMP pays for a license of each volumes. So each time a volume comes out, they have to pay again.

    Reality bites June 21, 2016 1:26 pm

    The sol. is sitting right here and has been. I don't know why they won;t use it . Scan grps, have the skill sets. writers have the works and the sites have the ports up why have they not come together? All you do is charge for the service every one gets paid. What am I missing Contracts I know legal stuff but that is why they have lawyers.It is prob. to simple a sol.

    Anoni Grrl June 21, 2016 1:35 pm
    English Publisher pays for the rights -> some of this goes to the creator -> what you pay goes to the English Publisher -> if enough people are buying the manga volumes then the English publisher will ... Lightasus

    To be fair, the creator should get a small percentage of sales in royalties. It depends on how the contracts are written. So, buying the official English copy does support the mangaka, but it also supports the team of people who work t bring us the manga (i.e. publishers, translators, etc).

    Lightasus June 21, 2016 4:16 pm
    To be fair, the creator should get a small percentage of sales in royalties. It depends on how the contracts are written. So, buying the official English copy does support the mangaka, but it also supports the ... Anoni Grrl

    Yeah, DMP and Libre are indeed made out of people :P

    They may get a royalty. But if so it's really small. It's 10% in Japan, but when you throw in DMP, Libre is probably the one taking most of that royalty. So what, probably 9% Libre, 1% author. And probably only after a certain amount of copies sold.

    I'm not that informed into the publishing matters outside of that 10% thing, but with all that an English publisher has to pay already, it's probably something like that.

    Still, with a best seller it's probably paying off anyway, but you're still buying the English mangas so that the English publisher will continue buying the rights. That's still where the author and the Japanese publisher is going to get most of their money from that deal.

    Reality bites June 21, 2016 4:47 pm

    thanks for the info.

    Lightasus June 21, 2016 5:08 pm

    I'm not sure about you guys, but when I buy a translated copy I do it mostly to support the said company into continuing to bring mangas I enjoy with high quality adaptations into the western world. When I buy a Japanese copy, that's where I'm mostly thinking about supporting the publishers and the author, which is something I do for Finder :).

    That's why I'm not sure I would've bought DMP's editions (should I have no issue with the format they use in the first place). No limited booklet editions, no color pages. Not the type of company I wish to support. Though it's easy for me to say because I have the chance to be able to take that sort of thing for granted in French editions.

    I recently bought Kizumonogatari, a Japanese novel, in English from the publisher Vertical Inc, and oh wow. They managed to find a sweet spot between american format and the Japanese dust covers by making the cover folded in the interior, with all the text supposed to be there. The cover feels of quality and is bendy, so you don't have to be afraid of damaging it just by opening the book. Color pages included. Translation to die for, and it is known to be a series not easy to translate at all.

    I still haven't read it entirely (I read it online long ago though, tired of waiting for the movie to come out aha, it took 6 years since the announcement godmanit!), but I knew I would buy it on a heartbeat when I heard about it. I'm just glad someone took the money and time to publish this with such a magnificent quality :).

    It's a lesser known company and they just make better work... DMP's business model sure seems to be lacking if they can't even have color pages out of all things.

    Anoni Grrl June 21, 2016 5:38 pm
    I'm not sure about you guys, but when I buy a translated copy I do it mostly to support the said company into continuing to bring mangas I enjoy with high quality adaptations into the western world. When I buy ... Lightasus

    I think you represent the "true collector" market--and that may be the way to go for Manga publishers. I tend to think of yoai as erotica, where the marketing strategy usually would be to get a small amount of money from a large number of people (and have a lower quality product at times)--but the alternative is to get a large amount of money from a small number of people who pay for quality, and that's where die hard serious collectors come in. I will probably be more of a person who consumes a lot but at a mostly lower quality (in terms of paper types and colored art) unless I win the lottery. :)