Exactly. Flawless seme doesn't exist. People are picking what they want to understand. It is clear why he is behaving like this. Suha isn't helping too, he is too relaxed especially with red hair and that Mr Yoon. It's like he has no sense of danger.
Totally agree. Honestly the one who should be prosecuted for their actions right now is Suha. Suha has not shown Jiwoon that he can be trusted to be cautious around Jiwoon's family. Remember the time Suha went to "save Mr Yoon" but actually just walked into Dohyeok's trap and ended up being assaulted? There are so many moments of poor judgement by Suha that I don't blame Jiwoon for the anxiety he is feeling
(I'm not saying the assault is Suha's fault, I'm just saying that that's an example of how his judgment regarding that family and suspicious situations is askew )
I love Jiwoon! I said it so many times lol he was nothing but good to Suha and I've never read a top being so vulnerable and fragile like him, he was needy of Suha's affection from the very beginning and he was happy to receive as much love as Suha could've given him.
I want to point out that now he's seems very ill... he's got eye bags and overall he doesn't look good, he always looks worried and hurt. I miss when he could laugh and joke a bit with Suha. Also... I know he's being very creepy but as far as I know it (I'm in ch. 81) he's lied straight to Suha's face and took his phone without him noticing (Suha still had this laptop) but he never *actually* prevented him of going out... or doing anything, really... he said he's anxious and told Suha to stay at home. I know it's ...very... alarming but he's not doing it because he's a psycho who wants to cage Suha... he's doing it because he's actually worried sick
It's far from the best way and it kinda ruins the character for me, not gonna lie. Jiwoon was "perfect" because he cared so much about Suha. He was hurt when he was drugged and forced himself on Suha on season 2, he said sorry and cried about it, he was so upset for hurting him like this... and now, season 3, he's letting his insecurities be bigger........... thats why I miss the old Jiwoon. I wish this season didn't end like this.
But hear me out - I'm still in chapter 81 and thing is, Suha doesn't even notice he's being mistreated. He knows something is up but literally nothing happens to him but to stay at home for some time. That's everything Jiwoon is asking of him right now and it's not good at all because Suha is so independent. It's alarming... it feels like something bad is gonna happen and I hope it doesn't. I just wish Jiwoon was more honest too, you know?
There isn't old jiwoon and new jiwoon. I don't understand how people think someone like him after seeing everything he went through will be normal and have a normal life. We are getting to know the real jiwoon,his fears, scars and insecurities. I like how the author isn't sweeping everything under the carpet.
We can make a comparison between his old and his new behavior. It's a way of speaking and I think it's fair since we've seen Suha be abused right in front of him and his behavior wasn't to lock up the person he loves the most, actually... at the time, he confessed his feelings, was supportive and did everything he could do to put one of the responsables in prison. In season 2 I couldn't picture Jiwoon being like this to Suha, now he puts his fears, scars and insecurities first than his actual love and support of Suha. He's blind and he's not only being selfish but he's also dishonest.
Suha suffered too but he doesn't inflict his suffering on others. I rlly hope he doesn't hurt the person he loves... because if he does anything any further it proves it's just possessiveness and not love at all...
I definitely agree that he looks and is acting ill. In the scene before Jiwoon shuts off Suha's phone, he is seen watching Suha sleep and then leaving the room. I feel that this is portraying that he can't sleep at night even though he has someone precious waiting for him. Insomnia in addition to everything else that is worrying him is definitely making things worse. It seems to stem from his insecurities and anxieties regarding Suha. I think Jiwoon is taking steps forward to keep Suha with him, such as how he is begging him to stay in the house and out of harm.
Jiwoon does not want to isolate Suha, bc he realizes that it could cause Suha to want to leave him, but he also wants Suha to be cautious when going outside due to everything they have been through with his family. I feel that Jiwoon is pleading with Suha, but Suha does not even consider how Jiwoon has been feeling. As we, the audience can see, Suha knows something is bothering Jiwoon, but Suha has no idea what it is that is bothering him, and he has not asked. For example, Suha's first thought of Jiwoon's request of Suha to do "anything he asks" is met with a thought about Jiwoon asking for a sexual favor. These compounding incidents of Suha not noticing and not /trying/ to discuss what is actually going on with Jiwoon makes me sad bc it is showing that Suha is taking their relationship a lot more lightly (and with a lot less consideration) than Jiwoon.
Obviously, when there is a problem with not conveying ideas within a relationship, both parties are at fault, but I just feel like Jiwoon is trying a lot harder than Suha, and it makes me sad for Jiwoon.
Also, in the latest chapter, Jiwoon speaks with Ms. Lee about an opportunity... I think this may have something to do with revealing Dohyeok's actual personality and removing him from his pedestal in the eyes of the public, their family, and their company. If this is the case, it is clear that Jiwoon is doing everything he can to keep Suha with him and to eliminate any threats to Suha and their relationship.
As you said it, he can't sleep, he's looking and acting ill. Jiwoon seems tired, irritated and expressionless, he's far from his normal state of mind and it's getting worse. It's clear he's having hard time.
Jiwoon is worried sick and his trauma is making him do things he normally wouldn't. He's not a bad person, he can seem threatening to other people sometimes (Mr Yoon, Ms. Lee) but he's actually very good. This hurts to see.
He's taking steps forward to keep Suha with him, he wants it so so much but he's doing it the wrong way. Nobody is a fan of him lying so much... honestly it's sad to see how instead of being true, he choses to lie and it makes me wonder if he's wasn't mad at Suha and taking it out on him (I mean, he pretended to call Suha's phone when he knew where it was, how he lied about not knowing where he was when he's met with Mr. Yoon etc). Just right now he's (SPOILER ch78) bought a bigger house to make Suha stay and tell people Suha is sick and they should monitor his actions for him to not get out(SPOILER) I don't doubt this is also making him more ill than he is. I love love Jiwoon, love how thoughtful and caring he was but his actions are being manipulative and they can be harmful. He's not acting in love anymore... he's acting in response of his fear and trauma.
For me, Suha actually loves him a lot and he's a victim. He was honest from the very beginning about his feelings, how it takes time for him to fall in love again or even believe he's loved, how he was afraid of getting into a new relationship, how he's had a a rough past, how he was afraid of getting hurt. He's just very independent and doesn't sense danger to himself. I agree he should worry more, but it was him who was abused, it's him who should be reassured. Instead of it, Jiwoon's actions are getting abusive. It's sad that Suha can be both victim of Jiwoon and Dohyeok's actions, right now when he's starting to believe he's loved.
Yes!! It's good how Jiwoon is planning to remove Dohyeok from his pedestral but I wonder what is going to happen with Mr Yoon, I hope he doesn't get much involved... he's very innocent and nice, literally nothing is his fault and Suha would be hurt if something happens to him. I may be reading way too much into it LOLOL but it's mainly because I wasn't expecting Jiwoon, one of my favorite characters, to do these things, even though they're explainable and he's clearly not on his right mind.
Why is it that you only see suha's painful past and scars and not jiwoon's. It's like you take jiwoon's fears, scars lightly and suha's seriously which isn't fair. Suha is scared, jiwoon is also scared. They both need to communicate. Not just jiwoon because he is the seme, suha doesn't even behave like he cares about jiwoon's past. He still supports the grandma and red hair still friends with Mr yoon. Yes Mr Yoon is sus I don't trust him. Let's give jiwoon a chance to right his wrongs and take the right steps.
But I do see it... and I'm not taking it lightly. I just don't like when the consequences of Jiwoon's past are on Suha's back. It'd be the same if I saw Suha behaving badly towards Jiwoon because of his own past... like, that's not excusable. It's you who takes Suha's scars and fears lightly if you think it's ok for Jiwoon to treat Suha like this only because he had a rough past. Like the guy just came from an abusive relationship, Jiwoon told him he wouldn't hurt him........ and now he's lying and trying to lock him up without his consent (bc he's afraid but still.....)
That's true. Suha is not reassuring him enough, I totally agree with you on this. But I don't think he doesn't care... he's just not living in the past like Jiwoon, who seems stuck in it. Idk both need to talk a lot. I love this manhwa but the *talking* part is needed! Mainly about their past. Suha loves him a lot actually... genuinely enjoys his personality and body, he went with his abuser to save Jiwoon.
Nooo Suha doesn't support the grandma and redhair... he's completely uncomfortable around them. He owns grandma because it was her who supported his family when he was younger and who gave him the opportunity to have his job + she's his superior. Redhair, like he hates redhair lol And Mr. Yoon is kinda sus but he's never done anything wrong xD just because Jiwoon doesnt like him it doesnt mean he's bad.
Yesssssss I mean thats everything that I want, for him to right his wrongs. Both of them, and Suha to love him when he's on this worst... I mean, even now Jiwoon still treats Suha like a prince.
I feel like ppl forget that from Jiwoon's perspective, he's never been able to have anything of his own. Anything he has doesn't actually belong it him bc it was provided by his family and can be taken away as quickly as it was given. His family has always belittled him and given him the short straw, so when he finally has something/someone of his own that he is not willing to give up, he's trying to do everything in his power to keep it. Plus, they still have not talked about the time when Suha left Jiwoon for Dohyeok (when Jiwoon was drugged)... obviously Suha had his reasons, but those reasons were not explained to Jiwoon. Jiwoon was probably terrified of Suha leaving him for Dohyeok even before the drugging incident, due to Suha's history with Dohyeok.
I have always been on Jiwoon's side bc he has been through so much with his shitty family. I don't think people should jump ship the first time Jiwoon's "flawless seme" character begins to show cracks that were caused by years of mental abuse and also insecurities in their relationship that have not yet been talked through