most japanese still dont/shouldnt like children still the lowest is sixteen I believe too and this kang sixteen the earlier chapters were fine it gave off some weird vibes but it was more like a childhood crush why did the author have to include a wet dream..?
They very recently changed it to 16 but it was 13 before. This manga was started at that time. I totally agree that adults shouldn't be attracted to children. It's incredibly disgusting. I'm just pointing out that not only are they both kids (despite the age gap), culture really should be considered. I'm sure there are things about western culture that's not overly taboo to us, but is to them. Take for example the TV show pretty little liars. That had a whole pedo relationship that ended in marriage in that show and the fact that the show went on for so many seasons means that most people weren't bothered by it. Which is shocking cause the guy was a grown ass adult having a sexual relationship with very underaged girls (I believe the first girl was 11 and he full on had sex with her) and it was romanticized. Verses this book where they are both minors and Yuu has made it clear he doesn't want that type of relationship with Tsubaki. To be honest, this is a pretty accurate depiction of what it's like to be at Tsubaki's age (10-11) and have a crush on someone older. If we're being honest we've all been there. And having wet dreams or fantasies aren't unusual in that situation. The main thing is that no one is acting on it and it's not Yuu having those dreams. I think people (not you specifically as you calmly shared your point of view and I really appreciate that XD ) just like being "outraged" to be outraged. Because they think it's the PC thing to do. At the end of the day it IS fiction, and it's also fiction depicting another culture. This book shouldn't even be available to us. We are all able to read it because someone decided to break the law for us and illegally translate it. So people can have their opinions and I honestly agree with you guys. I just don't think attacking the author is the thing to do here. Just move on.
I really do think the author could have gone about it a better way and at least depicted the child as the age of consent for the time they wrote it (in some places anyway) although I do understand you to some extent I personally warrant some critique
omg wait I wrote a lengthy response sharing my view and the website just got rid of it?? is it not available to me or
Oh no! The response I see from you stops at, "warrants some critique" was there more after that? If you feel up to it definitely feel free to retype it >.<
I really agree with you
If some people are having problem with this then don't bother to watch
Everyone perspective is different and if you not respect that then get outta here
You are just being part of the problem if you think ignore and pretend it doesn't exist is the way to handle things, the author wanted to tell a story, and it is actually very fun and relatable (at least to me) having a crush at such age, and how it should/could be a real love story in that situation, we can also see that obviously this wouldn't work in western society were people know and experience it at such a young age, why it worked BECAUSE they are them.
Know if you want to ignore kids have feelings, kids have wet dreams, kids will slowly become adults and this means slowly develop their sexuality, conscious or unconsciously, this is the natural way and a well educated kid will not suppress, feel ashamed or try to hurry it, they have the right to understand what is happening and why adults tell them to wait.
If your reason to "protect" kids is to preserve "the sacred purity" you don't think much different of a predator, kids are not "pure" or have some kind of religious divinity, or are "all good" beings kids are humans in development and we who already went through what they are experiencing have the duty to guide them so they have better opportunities, experiences and tools to do and be better adults (in that sense the most problematic of this comic is the common children and teens don't having the proper understanding of their development)
I had explained my comment in a much more in depth reply and this fucking website had deleted it and to be frank I dont wish to spend my energy on a bunch of pedo enabling losers
Hell no. Bro first of all saying that they're both minors is wrong. THE KIDS 10 AND THE DUDES 17!!!! Hes quite literally one year away from being an adult. And the kid being ten is not even close to the age of consent. And I'm honestly not trying to hate the author. Besides all that weird stuff that happens it's cute and I like reading about innocent love. And I completely understand the cultures and the different perspectives completely. And although I started this off rlly strong I don't mean any actual hate to u guys fyi. But honestly my first thought was that the fact that you guys been writing essays to excuse this is gross. But after rereading I don't think I should give u shitty treatment. I just believe that it's could've been shown in a less sexualized or weird way imo. And as for the example you showed, pretty little liars was made in 2010 while this was made in 2020. And as much as we like to pretend nothing bad happened the early 2000s was very problematic, pedophilia being one of them. And I'm not trying to excuse pretty little liars because honestly I didn't really watch it because I thought it was disgusting and gross. I'm just thinking that the early 2000s excused stuff like this but our time right now would never. And seeing as how this manga was posted in 2020. It just didn't make sense for you to compare two things that concerns pedophilia, one being from the early 2000s where everything's problematic and from the 2020s where we try to stop excusing these type of stuff. And again I'm not hating and I'm also not fully taking in the authors culture either. I just believed it might be easier if you provided an example where it was made in the same era so people including me can understand where you're coming from. And I understand that these are both pieces of fiction and I can easily just scroll away but just as you wanted to stay your opinion, as do I. Even though both are fiction I believe that either should not be excused especially pretty little liars for being extremely honest nasty and influencing young kids to thinking it's normal. And I'm not trying to fully hate I just believe that there could have been a better way for this author to show certain things. And again I see this as like harmless love but when the older kid starts like thinking about it and also kind of like falling for him when he is literally 17 and his friend is like influencing him into thinking it's okay it gets weird. I hope you understand where I'm coming from.
Also what are you on, honestly the og poster was much tamer then u. I'm trying to act nice n j as I finish replying I just read ur comment. U make absolute no sense. It sounds like a excuse just for you to read nasty ass stuff without feeling guilty or whatever idk. The fact that the person u replied to wasn't even saying anything wrong and u act like they're a problem??? Like what about you??? I'm not trying to be rude but seriously??? The fact that u can excuse pedophilia is disgusting, the fact that u try to make an argument stating how it's natural and we feeling discomfort and not excusing nasty behavior between a child and a teen who's a SENIOR IN HIGHSCHOOL and u still try to argue it is mad weird. And to compare it to basically being the same as a pedo is gross ASF and you do know that ur reply esp the ending makes YOU sound like a fucking pedo right???
I am always absolutely pissed to purity culture, cuz it's disgusting to me how people aways talk about kids, as I said is part of the problem, are you listing to yourself a kid having a first wet dream is something that bothers you, something "forbidden" is the same vibe to pedos, you can watch any documentary or interviews on pedos, and you see how much "purity" is a thing, how when a kid is a kid and shows they want to know or they are experiencing very common fisiological responses to their age pedos immediately jump to assume is okay to touch/fantasize cuz the kid is "not pure"
I saw that scene and thought it was fun, and embarrassing, and somehow you saw that scene and trough of something disgusting, this is what I mean by it
Wanting kids to have proper sex education and understand why it is too early sounds like a pedo to you? Or are you just bothered that this might "corrupt" kids?(cuz this is the argument of most of the people, whose community are full of child sexual abuse)
People are here attacking and making accusations about a content I like so I am explaining their arguments are funded in something other than "kids protection" (and explained the right way to go about it, but I think it is too hard to someone socialized in a pedophile society to think about kids and sex in the same subject without freak out, but again you do not protect anyone by letting them ignorant about it)
I will be the first to speak out when there is pedo content, like the many cases where one of the parts or both are young for the sake of fetishism but it is really disturbing how people are completely missing the point in this story, it wouldn't even make sense to age a 11 years old with 11 years old mind, but with so much infantilized main characters out there where these traits are put as attractive, I think what matters is as you guessed people don't feeling bad about it
And I like to understand and engage in debates of how society values works, I like to see these inconsistencies, and wonder in what lenses people are seeing things, author has a vision, the translator has another, mine is not neutral too, but it gets boring after I understand everything there is to understand about mine so please feel free to share more of yours, I can aways change my mind, but be aware that until now every frase you said I already heard or read before more than 3 times with no solid suport what means they are morals not thoughs of your own, and this is not just boring but sad and in a case so important as this revolting
the authors literally drawn the kid in a suggestive manner holding his leg up for yknow try again buddy
BRO LMAOOO U CANT JUST BE TALKING ABT PURITY N SHIT AND ACT LIKE UR A SAINT WHOSE NOT READING THIS CUZ OF PEDO SHIT BUT HAAVE A WHILE ASS LIST WHERE U HAVE A SHIT TON OF RAPEY YAOI THINGYS LMAOPP and the ratings too.... Girl wtf the paragraphs and paragraphs u made to protect this shit can literally be thrown out the window when we see ur profile HAHAHH and honestly I ain't reading allat I read the first few sentences and quit lollll ur so defensive
"B-but it's normal wdym
Omg it cut off my full reply I was saying "B-but it's normal wdym??? It's o-obv ok for a ten year old boy to do that.... U-ur just a pedo" omg
NO THATS EXACTLY HOW THEY SOUND I feel like im going insane how can someone be this stupid
IKRRRR I swear they try to act smart n shit like... ma'am we know ur in school maybe instead of focusing on defending pedo behaviors u should focus on school those grades are too low for u to act like this
All I’m hearing is it’s okay to sexualise children because it’s normal in some countries.
If you read any of the comments you would see why I like reading this kind of stuff, I don't even read sugarcoated stuff like this (and different sites I read different content, so of course in a site I read this kind of stuff will have more stuff in it) this is how I ended up here in first place(cuz any person who is not interested would have stoped in first chapter) I already said the author is wrong for all that fan-service and that it leaves all the story she is trying to tell in the trash can, this is not about "defending myself" is about lots of people here thinking they are better, attacking and acusing others saying the most disgusting things for the wrong reasons(it doesn't bother me you calling anyone a pedo, it bothers me how you view children) if you had attacked the author/readers first for these fanservice and this is what bothered you I would have agree, but as I said this is not where it comes from, people where not mad until the wet dream, while the kid was "innocent" doing all that poses and typical pedo shots I saw almost no complaint, when the other MC was younger I saw no complaints, when this was the most pedo stuff, but when MC didn't fit your fantasies suddenly everyone is mad and realized it is pedo stuff
Look, I completely understand where everyone is coming from and it's okay to have your opinions and moral standards. I'm with you guys. But before calling the author gross and attacking them, please try to keep in mind that this is a Japanese comic. It wasn't made for western readers. It was made by a Japanese person for people in Japan. In Japan the age of content is far lower than it is in say Canada or the US. So what might seem incredibly weird to us, is pretty normal to them. If we grew up in Japan as well maybe it wouldn't seem like such a big deal either. I'm not saying every Japanese person is down for age gaps and such (as you often see that brought up as a point of conflict in mangas with setting like this) but it isn't actually illegal. Add to that, that they are both minors. So please at least keep that in mind before attacking the author. You don't have to read it, it's okay for you to pass on it, but being hateful and/toxic does not make you better than the author.