Bruh...

I am sorry but jooin deserves some of the bashing rn. we can all see that he's not completely over yahwi and he still has the audacity to give Cain hopes when clearly anything yahwi does bothers him. moreover, he's screaming at Cain cuz of what happened with yahwi and not because cain hadn't told him anything. Cain is chill man he's done nothing wrong. he just wanted to protect jooin in the beginning but caught feelings and that's it.

I'm sorry, did I miss the part where Jooin gave Cain hope and Cain not knowing Jooin has not over him?
He was not completely over Yawhi since the beginning. Jooin made it clear from the first time when Cain keep pressuring him about his feeling.
That's why he refused.
Yet Cain said he is willing to wait, and while in doing so, he makes sure Jooin didn't get in contact with Yawhi.
Knowing FULLY well, that Jooin was not over him.

He's screaming at Cain because he realized him and Cain situation is basically the same as him and Yahwi's situation.
He made a connection. It triggers him, sure, but Jooin's lashing out is totally UNDERSTANDABLE.

Here, I'll give you a step by step as to how people's mind work.
Jooin, for a long time, was confused as to why Yahwi did what he did to Jooin.
In the end, Jooin decided to just leave him and just think of him as a jerk.
Then, Yahwi confess as to why he did those things to Jooin.

Jooin, hearing all those things, start to realize that the reason behind everything start to makes sense. He's trying to connect things and to make a judgement whether Yawhi's confession can be accepted by him.

The, Cain called.
Remember this. Cain called, while Jooin was in the middle of realization, that the things happened in his life (with Yahwi) wasn't just simply him being a jerk. There's a reason behind his actions.

Noted that it says "International Call", and Cain explain "I lost my phone".
It wasn't in the panel when Jooin called Cain, but in the dialogue, Jooin said,
"why it's hard to get in touch with you".
It's pretty clear that after leaving, Jooin can't call Cain and it takes a long time for Cain to call him.
Jooin asked a BASIC and REASONABLE questions,
"Why did you had to go home, that you got so busy, I can't reach out to you"

What Jooin said after that literally explain why Jooin questioned him.
He made promised to Jooin, he asked Jooin to wait, which Jooin gave to him.
All Jooin wants is explanation. A reason why the things happened as it is.
Cain just said, "I just leave you temporarily, I have something to take care of"
Really?
You said you love me, care for me, but you can't even trust me with your personal life?

Jooin and Yahwi conversation TRIGGERS Jooin to be more critical, which is VERY NEEDED.

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"Cain is chill man he's done nothing wrong"

No, hun. He came without explanation, leaving without explanation, meddling a stranger's life, demand to know everything yet didn't want to do the same to the so called "love of my life".

He's sweet, that's why people look over all the red flags that was shown from him.
In real life, people like this got away easily when they have issues, lol.

i love you for this T-T cain is just the same as yahwi is just slay sis T-T

i meant btw your point of view is the same as mine ╮(￣▽￣)╭ i just dont get why people lash out on jooin for asking; i mean he deserves to know at least ┗( T﹏T )┛

I agree with the jooin statement but saying cain is the same as yahwi is crazy cain indeed have redflags BUT he's far from yahwi

Picture this, You have someone that you have a crush on. But you can't tell them because they are in a relationship. But in the relationship they are in, they are being abused; mentally, physically, emotionally, sexually, etc.

Every day they come back from work or university, they are drained, sad and you know the reason behind it. Still, every day, you choose to console them as a friend even though you hope they'll be happy with or without you.

Words they start saying about themselves diminishes who they are as an individual because their partner does that to them. Still, all you can do is be a consoler. And slowly through you, they start gaining courage. They laugh more, they act dorky and do things they've never done before with their partner. So through you, they start learning how to exist; how to live.

But still, since their partner is their first love, they are still drowned to them not out of love anymore or anything but mostly out of validation of their existence.

Still, no reaction from their partner. Then they decide to end it all because they can't take the abuse anymore. And the second their partner sees that it all breaks loose. They finally realized that they'd changed and explained to them why they'd been abusing them. So basically pull everything out of the sleeves so as not to lose their toy.

In the meantime, you are just a bystander. All you can do, even though you want to protect your crush, is to support them.

So you decide to just be there for them and make them laugh. Slowly, they start having a crush on you as well but not to the extent of love. But still, through you, they are learning a lot about themselves. You see that and you are happy.

When you ask them out, they tell you to give them a chance, to close the previous chapter. And the day they go close that chapter, they come back to you all beat up. You have never laid your hand on them but the person who was supposed to be their boyfriend did.

The whole day and night they keep on crying. Then one day, to console each other, you do the deed. Of course, none of you wished for it to happen that way but it did and none of you have regret about it.

You ask them out, they tell you I'll need more time to get to know you. Now on your side, every time you want to tell this person you have a crush on your secret, something comes up. Either you are interrupted or it is not a good time.

Not wanting to lose them, you keep on pushing back to tell them what has been going on. It's difficult to let people in your secret when they haven't yet been exposed because you might be afraid of scaring them away. And losing everything in the process. Even if you do not admit it, what you want to hear from them (your crush) is that they also care about you. It might slightly open your secret door to them or it might not.

Some people need time especially if they find their own story heavy or a burden to scare someone away.

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Now apply all that to this actual fiction.
Of course, you have the right to feel the way you do about Cain because we never got the chance to know him. The author had the power to make the mark on how to turn the story. So basically we are the passengers and he is the driver.

We might not like how is driving the car but at the end of the day, we are still in the car with him.

Yes, they did not expect the story to have such a reaction from the readers. So it kind of makes sense for them to be confused as well on how to lead the story. They might have gone with Yahwi and Jooin together but maybe they are rethinking the story and have them stay single.

That being said, Cain can be so many things you want him to be but one thing I did not yet read about him is that he is not a rapist, a psychological/mental/emotional/physical abuser. That's why he can't be like Yahwi. Of course, one thing that makes them similar is that they are two human beings who are in love with another human being. At least in the non-supernatural world.

this makes sense. I hope everyone ends up single atp

I think you replied to the wrong one lmfao or no(?)

Lemme clarify one thing first, since you seem to assume that I think Cain=Yahwi.
I'll copy paste my comment to highlight the sentences.
I didn't edit my original comment, so you can double check.
"Cain is basically Yahwi, but the "sweet" one.
Full of mysteries, "manipulate" Jooin to let him into Jooin's life."
Read the second part.
That's the context as to why I said Cain is like Yawhi, but the sweet version.
So, no.
I wasn't and am not calling Cain a rapist or abuser.
He's manipulative and full of mysteries.
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Now,
Since we're going to use the "proper" relationship ways. I'll also write my argument based on the "proper" way people are in relationship (or trying" to be in one).

Let me point out flaws of your argument:
1. They're not friends, colleague, coworker, or in any way close prior to Cain suddenly appear and say "I'm looking for you. I'm here for you".
He's a complete stranger to Jooin.
He then basically lie to Jooin, saying he has nowhere to live, in order for Jooin to let him live in his house. That's a manipulation. You get your way through lie, persuade someone, to get what you want.
On top of that, he is not telling Jooin anything about his background, why he's there.
Cain knew very well that Jooin was being manipulated by Yahwi, yet he's doing the same thing. He's nice, sure. But people can manipulate others in so many "nice" ways.

2. Jooin didn't have any other option but to go to Cain, since he lives with him and "taking care" of him. Jooin practically doesn't have any close friends. In situation like this, they WILL likely "likes" you and depend on you. So normal people, in "proper" way, should know that there's a higher chance that you'll be the rebound. That your crush will still have feelings for their ex. Pressing about how you "love" him when your crush is still can't figure out his feeling will only confuse them.
Cain didn't give Jooin space to actually think about his own feeling and jumping straight away to confess your love and having one night stand.
You can protect your crush from being abused by their ex without jumping straight into confessing/sex and then asking to be in relationship.

2. "Not wanting to lose them, you keep on pushing back to tell them what has been going on. It's difficult to let people in your secret when they haven't yet been exposed because you might be afraid of scaring them away. And losing everything in the process."
-> You can be that way to your friends and colleagues, but NOT your lover or potential lover.
If you know your secret will affect your relationship/you think it'll affect your relationship, you know damn well the relationship is doomed.
If we apply this to real life, then you shouldn't even start a relationship when you still have a big secret like that.

3. You ignore Jooin's feeling, situation, and environment in your argument. Which is the POV of my comment.
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I don't have any opinion about the ending or how the author gonna write the plot moving forward.
I love tragic or twisted ending, lol, but it doesn't matter to me whether the author is sticking with his/her original pair or change it.

What I have an issue with is how people are so harsh on Jooin and completely skip some "red flags" that Cain have.
Ofc there'll be a reveal later about his background. But as of now, Cain is also manipulating Jooin.
And how, it is absolutely understandable, that Jooin did what he did.
Saying he didn't trust Cain, questioned their relationship, and he demands to know everything.
Jooin is the only victim in this "love triangle".

As to Cain's character. I see him as a nice and sweet guy who's being manipulative to a confuse and lonely "important person in his live".
I don't have any of the character.
It's a character, after all.

I think you misunderstood my last comment.
I wrote:
Cain is basically Yahwi, but the "sweet" one.
Full of mysteries, "manipulate" Jooin to let him into Jooin's life.

The context as to why I said Cain is basicallt Yawhi but sweet one is on the second sentence. That he's full of mysteries and being manipulative.
Not the behaviour or other things that Yawhi did.

Okay, i get your point. I guess i misunderstood. Thanks for clarifying

Ok, I get where you are going with your thoughts.

I personally don't mind that Jooin is annoyed by everything and taking it out on Cain. It makes sense because he is at a crossroads and needs reassurance. So I guess that he is hoping Cain will give him that.

I really can't dislike Cain even with the flows you just pointed out. The story, after 82 chapters has been around Yahwi the most. So it makes sense that we still have no clue who is really Cain. Anything mysterious is exciting to me so I'm here for the juice.

Sorry for adding another comment.

I just wanted to add that though Jooin has the right to lash out at Cain, he should still chill out because the world does not evolve around him. Other people have problems too. If he can't pick that up, he is not meant to be in a relationship with anybody.

I get that he is angry and confused but that reaction won't get him anywhere. He should give Cain time to tell him what has been happening to him at his own pace.

Jooin made Cain wait which he has been waiting. So, if he can't handle waiting for him in return, Yahwi is always an option for him. At least then he'll let a deserving person love Cain truly.

"I just wanted to add that though Jooin has the right to lash out at Cain, he should still chill out because the world does not evolve around him. Other people have problems too. If he can't pick that up, he is not meant to be in a relationship with anybody.
--> He's NOT. He made it CLEAR he didn't want to be in relationship. He REFUSED Cain. Not just once, couple of times. We just through this, hun, how can you already forget about it? Cain was the one who keep confessing to him, asking him to be in a relationship, pressuring him into give him a chance.
You're taking a chance on "unstable, confused" person, you'll get the "unstable, confused" reactions/side effects.
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"He should give Cain time to tell him what has been happening to him at his own pace."
-->How long does Jooin has to give Cain time? It's been MONTHS. And there's NOT a single panel, prior to the lash out, where Jooin ever pressure Cain to talk about his background.
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"Jooin made Cain wait which he has been waiting. So, if he can't handle waiting for him in return, Yahwi is always an option for him."
--> NO. Cain MADE Jooin promised him to give him a chance. Cain MADE HIMSELF wait for the unstable, confused Jooin. He didn't even give Jooin a time to process his own feeling after they have sex. Which, as I said in my previous comment, clearly a rebound.
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"At least then he'll let a deserving person love Cain truly. "
--> I'd be more than happy for Cain to be with someone else.
However, Cain HIMSELF put him in a position where he meddling with someone else's love path. Cain HIMSELF put him in a position where he wants to be with the "undeserved love" Jooin.


I'd repeat this, again.
Cain was the one who came to Jooin, out of nowhere.
Cain was the one who fell in love with Jooin.
Cain was the one who lie to Jooin about his situatoon, in order to live with the him.

Jooin is the ONLY victim in this love triangle.

You should take time, either to re-read the manga or re-read my comment.
Because it's clear to me you still don't get time order right and you don't understand the dynamic of their relationship.

holy crap finally someone that understands. Cain is so damn mysterious, and he’s the same red flag as yahwi. no point blaming jooin when he has a reason to act this way.

nope, he is definitely near yahwi. they’ve done different actions, but cain’s one is worse since jooin pitied cain’s “situation”, therefore he let cain stay with him. cain is also quite draggy with the story, he keeps pushing jooin to love him instead of yahwi and portrays yahwi as the bad guy when he’s equally bad

He's a red flag but no where near yahwi lmfao literally tell me a time where he threw hands on jooin like yahwi did?? Being abusive and having anger issues literally makes yahwi way worser than him, how do u guys even compare cains doings to yahwi when its so clear that yahwi is way worser when in terms of treating jooin. Although cain has redflags, but Cain was never equally as bad as yahwi

We might have been reading different ways this story.

No, Jooin never refused Cain. Yes, Cain did confess his love for him but Jooin never told him "No" or "I'll never date you". Instead, he said: "Give me time. I need to sort out a couple of things. My answers are all positive".

I do agree that Jooin is confused and does not know what to do. He has the right to get made. But lushing out does not help the situation.

Because Jooin said he needed to sort out things. Cain respected that wish. Yes, Yahwi's talk made him more confused than he was before but at the end of the day, he needs to make a decision.

This is not about not getting the manga but it is about how the reader chooses to look at the story.

No Jooin is not the victim of the love triangle, he is the victim of all the abuse he received from Yahwi (rape, psychological/emotional/ etc). Sure now what confuses him is what is the right decision to make.

You have your right to stand where you stand in your view just as I do. And sharing discussion helps see how each reader view the story.

I can't even count the number of times Yahwi abused Jooin. Jooin's confusion started with questioning if Yahwi truly liked him.

Sure Cain has his weird side as well. But I don't recall reading in the story where Cain: raped, used, emotionally abused, treated like a toy, psychologically drained, etc Jooin in the story.

Cain allowed Jooin to be human and to experience what having fun means (smiling, being dorky, etc.).

Cain is not perfect just like all of them in the story but he is not an abuser.

He is a victim of some sort? Well we'll find out in the next chapters.

I thought to bring facts to refute the statement where you said: "He made it CLEAR he didn't want to be in relationship. He REFUSED Cain. Not just once, couple of times"

"I don't know what made me cry. No, I wanted to pretend I didn't know what that was. I thought I could make it work. So, all, along, I pretended that I wasn't hurt. But, you always know better than I do. When I thought that I'd reached a dead end, the one who came to find me was none other than you. Calm and serene like spring rain" _____ Jooin narrates to himself.

Later when Cain said: "Jooin I like you", Jooin narrates: "Cain, I can feel his voice and hands trembling. What did I do to deserve such unwavering sincerity?"
Jooin is not saying: "Tf dude, didn't tell you no I didn't want?" but instead, he is shocked because he feels like he does not deserve Cain's love.

Of course, Cain responded with: "I hope you feel the same way" and he continued with: "Pressuring you won't help."That startled Jooin and he reassured him that he did not feel pressured by him at all.

Of course, Cain is surprised because he did not expect that response from Jooin. So he asked: "Does that mean Jooin likes me back?" He is not pressuring but instead, he is making sure he is not misunderstanding what Jooin is trying to say.

Jooin replied: "Yes I do".

To reassure Cain, he continues with: "The thing is I can't give you an answer yet. I need to get some things sorted first. But I know how you feel about me and I'm giving it serious thought. AND MY THOUGHTS ARE ALL POSITIVE"

I do not read Jooin saying NO I'm refusing your proposal.

At the Han River, when Cain saw Jooin's wrist, Jooin tried to explain but Cain cut him off and reassured him by saying: "It's none of my business". Even though you could see the pain in his eyes, I did not read Cain saying: "Why the tf are you with that guy, You should be with me because I'm better." But no, he did not say that.

The first time Cain noticed Yahwi and Jooin arguing/fighting in the parking lot, Cain of course came to Jooin's rescue then in the apartment, he witnessed Jooin crying because deep inside Jooin already knew that Yahwi did not love him but he was in denial. In a conversation he had with Jooin, Jooin asked Cain: "If someone keeps breaking your heart what would you do?" Cain replied: "The more you like them, the harder it is but you too like each other, you should not hurt each other". Jooin told him that, he was not sure the feeling goes both ways". He meant he was not sure Yahwi liked him back.

Yes, it is true that Cain always tried to act like he was really close to Jooin in from of Yahwi while they were not. I can't blame him for that because Yahwi always acted like an ass toward Jooin in any situation.

They once had a drink together in their apartment where Jooin asked Cain if he liked him.
Then Jooin told him how handsome he was and not once did I read, Cain using that event to take advantage of Jooin. He held himself back. He stayed at Jooin's apartment because Jooin needed him. All he wanted to be, at first was Jooin's friend (referring to the night Jooin, felt comfortable asking him questions related to his love life drama).


Of course, later in the story, Cain witnesses another fight/argument between Jooin and Yahwi, this time he does not interfere but waits from afar. So that was the first time he showed his feelings to Jooin in a hurtful way. He did not yell or argue with Jooin. All he asked was: "Will Cain never be someone important to Jooin?". This conversation comes way before the conversation they had at Jooin's birthday celebration where he asked him to give him more time while he sort of somethings.

I'll agree with you that Cain has a lot of red flags. That's because we don't even know who he is. But at least, one thing I'm sure about is that he is not a rapist and psychological and physical abuser like Yahwi is.