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hot take but i think ppl hate on ukes too much like there will be the rudest bitch seme al...

GojoJoestar November 17, 2023 5:03 am

hot take but i think ppl hate on ukes too much like there will be the rudest bitch seme alive and yall will love him but as soon as an uke does literally anything they immediately get hate

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    Meruru November 17, 2023 5:07 am

    ^^^^^ truly this. ppl love the most violent narcissistic semes but the second u have a uke who isn’t the most mentally stable and isn’t conforming constantly to standard ‘uke rules’ everybodys up in arms.

    LocoGurl November 17, 2023 6:16 am

    Istg like this fcking ppl are two faced fake ass like they the type of ppl to dick ride and slurp up the red flag semes.

    Raymxndz November 19, 2023 8:04 am

    People hate ukes with character flaws but love extremely toxic semes

    MSue November 20, 2023 1:57 am

    The only explanation I can find for this phenomenon is that the people with this mentality are used to toxic environments themselves and don’t want to acknowledge just how bad it really is.

    LoverOfYaoi November 20, 2023 6:19 am
    People hate ukes with character flaws but love extremely toxic semes Raymxndz

    You couldn’t have said it any better!

    Yaoi Slut November 21, 2023 4:49 pm

    I see it all the time and it makes my blood boil! I have some little faith in humanity after seeing this.

    Irene May 15, 2024 6:28 am

    This couldn't have been more wrong, lol. People have been DRAGGING toxic seems through the mud since the dawn of BL. Kiss me liar, Jinx and etc etc semes are known for being shitty in the BL community and are very much dragged for their behavior.

    MSue May 15, 2024 11:23 am
    This couldn't have been more wrong, lol. People have been DRAGGING toxic seems through the mud since the dawn of BL. Kiss me liar, Jinx and etc etc semes are known for being shitty in the BL community and are v... Irene

    Yet the ukes of said BLs still receive so much unnecessary hate. Even in Jinx there have been a lot of commenters saying that it’s ok for JK to be a walking red flag because he’s hot like ???

    Irene May 15, 2024 1:22 pm
    Yet the ukes of said BLs still receive so much unnecessary hate. Even in Jinx there have been a lot of commenters saying that it’s ok for JK to be a walking red flag because he’s hot like ??? MSue

    And those are getting downvoted like hell, lol. That's definitely NOT the general opinion. No matter where I go, I see people being sympathetic towards the bottoms and shitting on the tops. I wouldn't take 1-2 people hating on the uke as something universal.

    MSue May 15, 2024 2:46 pm
    And those are getting downvoted like hell, lol. That's definitely NOT the general opinion. No matter where I go, I see people being sympathetic towards the bottoms and shitting on the tops. I wouldn't take 1-2 ... Irene

    And that’s the thing, it’s not 1 or 2 people, it’s many that keep commenting and treating ukes like they’re sluts or scum or like they deserve what’s been happening to them even if they’re victims in the story. To continue using Jinx as an example, now is when you’re starting to see more people calling out JK’s trash behavior because for the longest time there were many siding with him or if not siding with him totally at the very least either a) excusing his behavior because “hotness redeems trashability” or b) talking shit on Dan. I remember seeing so much hate for Dan and excusing JK’s behavior even when flipping page after page. That’s become such a trend here that many of us have noticed. What better example than this manhwa? Each new chapter reveals the truth about both of the main characters and yet there are many who still insist on calling Sasya a prostitute or slut and discrediting his success to merely “sleeping around” with nobles which is simply false

    GojoJoestar May 16, 2024 4:44 am
    This couldn't have been more wrong, lol. People have been DRAGGING toxic seems through the mud since the dawn of BL. Kiss me liar, Jinx and etc etc semes are known for being shitty in the BL community and are v... Irene

    Hate for toxic semes is a recent thing (but a good thing)... you could only think of newer examples. Junjou Romantica is an older BL and people adore the seme Akihiko despite the fact that he m0lests the uke and blackmails him constantly- ukes have been hated on for ages for being "sluts" or brainless idiots. Going back to Junjou Romantica, while Akihiko was loved, Misaki was hated on because he didn't always return Akihiko's (forceful) affection and wouldn't confess his love to him.

    Again, while I see toxic semes like in Jinx or Yours to Claim get more hate than they used to, it still doesn't take away from the fact that ukes in general are still more hated on, even for the most minor things, and semes have to be the literal scum of the earth to get hate comparatively. Taeju from Waterside night still doesn't get much hate even though he r!ped the uke because he's "changed", but Sasya from here gets so much hate for a simple misunderstanding.

    Irene May 16, 2024 5:32 am
    Hate for toxic semes is a recent thing (but a good thing)... you could only think of newer examples. Junjou Romantica is an older BL and people adore the seme Akihiko despite the fact that he m0lests the uke an... GojoJoestar

    BL fans would forgive the most toxic character no matter if they are top or bottom. I remember that one omega in that one omegaverse manga who tried to get someone attacked and raped and everyone was happy to read his side stories forgetting the shit he pulled just because he was pretty. People forgiving toxic characters because they got nice isn't exclusive to tops.

    Also, 90% of the top comments are defending Sasya. I probably have to wade through the downvoted comments to find out people hating on him. Seems to me that most people are sympathetic towards Sasya. I can't comment on 90s BL fandoms, but the recent fandom experience definitely doesn't make me feel like there is any double standards towards bottoms than it is for tops.

    Ur Gay May 16, 2024 12:20 pm
    BL fans would forgive the most toxic character no matter if they are top or bottom. I remember that one omega in that one omegaverse manga who tried to get someone attacked and raped and everyone was happy to r... Irene

    It’s just rising more with hate on ukes is the point I’ve seen less hate on semes

    MSue May 16, 2024 1:03 pm
    BL fans would forgive the most toxic character no matter if they are top or bottom. I remember that one omega in that one omegaverse manga who tried to get someone attacked and raped and everyone was happy to r... Irene

    It’s not 90% of the comments though, never has been, thats way too optimistic. They’re top comments for a reason, because they’ve received the most backlash from Sasha haters which equals to more engagement. And it’s literally only gaining more support towards Sasya now, as in very recently. Even so much as a month back there was page after page of Sasya hate or at the very least saying he’s a prostitute/slut. I, along some of the commenters in this thread, should know because we’ve had to call out the hypocritical comments of those hating on Sasya while doting on Karel’s many faults time after time. Hell, there’s a reason the og commenter said this when they did.

    I’m not sure which BLs you’ve been reading that you see such a positive line of comments or if you’ve just started reading BL recently but I assure you there is a rather large amount of double standards towards bottoms vs tops. For every person critiquing a seme’s toxic behavior there’s at least 5 talking shit about the uke, whether it’s saying they’re sluts/whores or that they can’t stand them because they’re idiots.

    Ur Gay May 16, 2024 10:36 pm
    It’s not 90% of the comments though, never has been, thats way too optimistic. They’re top comments for a reason, because they’ve received the most backlash from Sasha haters which equals to more engageme... MSue

    You gotta chill out

    MSue May 17, 2024 1:04 am
    You gotta chill out Ur Gay

    Lmao where am I not chill babes? Why is it that some people confuse a normal way of typing with being not chill?

    Ur Gay May 17, 2024 12:23 pm
    Lmao where am I not chill babes? Why is it that some people confuse a normal way of typing with being not chill? MSue

    I ain’t your “babes” that’s gross af

    MSue May 17, 2024 4:13 pm
    I ain’t your “babes” that’s gross af Ur Gay

    Ok? I never said you were. That’s just how I refer to people, just as many others do. Way to make it weird.

    Ur Gay May 17, 2024 8:23 pm
    Ok? I never said you were. That’s just how I refer to people, just as many others do. Way to make it weird. MSue

    Calling a stranger babes is fucking weird

    LoverOfYaoi May 18, 2024 6:52 am
    Lmao where am I not chill babes? Why is it that some people confuse a normal way of typing with being not chill? MSue

    Lmao that’s what they resort to when they can’t have an intellectual discussion