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“ Is it normal to relate real life things which fictional characters?” no. of course this opinion depends on literally everyone, but personally i also keep fictional things fictional. personal feelings CAN arise from certain scenes and those definitely can make me upset, like racism haha thats when I become a devil in the comment section but otherwise nah

For me I also preffer to mantain fictional thing as fictinal. Because for example if someone said that they would kill for me irl, I would direct them to the police station, but if it's a fictional character I would be like damn. Plus certain stuff in the horror tags, I will read them and be like damn that was a good read but I'm glad that it's just fictional (I know that horrific crimes do happen, but how can you live while thinking that it may happen to you, and being afraid), so like personally I feel the need to separate them and maintain them as fictional.

Yes sometimes personal feelings can arise. I once read a manga where penis of a character was cut with kitchen knife and clitoris of a very little girl (I think 12) was removed so she remains "pure" forever. I don't remember the manga name but those scenes actually made my stomach sick. I draw line at mutilation and there are also some fetishes that I can't look past like loli, shota, necrophilia, furry, vomit, poop, beastiality etc.

i always say that if you can't separate fiction from real life, it's best you stay away from media that have certain themes you find triggering since fiction is fiction for a reason. although social commentary on fiction is something that happens, i don't necessarily think that you have to relate every single thing you watch or read to reality as you'd be better off watching documentaries atp. i do see how some young people want to comment on that as non-con and dubcon is very prevalent in manga, manhwa, and manhwas and often, there are themes that one might find disturbing. this is why there is a rating for these types of things as adults can think like, well, adults.

what you decide to read and watch is up to you since no one is pointing a gun to your head what you decide to do. i feel like most people in this community, we sort of just accept that when we get into a manga, manhwa, or manhua, we can expect some form of noncon or dubcon. i'm not saying that ~all~ of those three Ms are like that but there is a lot of it. the younger readers might feel like since we're accepting this in media, we're willing to look the other way if the disturbing things that we've read were to happen in real life, which is not the case.

however, it's important that we acknowledge the fact that there's ~some~ authors who i feel like are just fetishizing instead of trying to tell a compelling story. this does not warrant tho for people to generalize and form an opinion the smut that we read on here when they've maybe only read one or two smuts.

to go off on a slight tangent, i also want to talk about bl specifically. this onslaught of the younger generation wanting to see consent in bl is i feel like something heartstopper brought on. don't get me wrong, i love the story. i read it when it was still on tumblr. i can't deny, however, that it did bring in an audience that wants a puritanical approach to all type of gay media. it's sad, honestly. there's also this notion that western gay comics are better than asian ones since they (western comics) are more heavy on emphasizing consent and that asian gay comics are just fetishization of gay people. and it's sad and disappointing since it feels like they look down on asian bl just for the fact that a lot of these stories mimic the gay asian experience.

this got pretty long so i'll end it here. if you read it, thank you for hearing the opinion of this random stranger.

I've read some horror stuff which gives me nightmares even though I know and think of it as a work of fiction. I don't know what would happen if I actually think of it as real. I guess I'll probably go insane

Also if you have good horror recs, then pls pls share

Well yes, relating real life things to fiction is a normal neurological thing, especially when fictional content that has rape in it does affect reality. This isnt a matter of seperating fiction and reality because everybody knows its not real. I dont really think theres anybody who views these characters as real human beings.
Its moreso a matter of putting expectations on authors to adhere to a certain standard, i.e. not contributing to rape culture by wrongfully presenting or involving rape in their works.
The thing about relating real life things to fiction is normal and human, TO AN EXTENT, rape is a real life problem. So if anything, authors are purposefully taking real life serious problems and placing it into their work, thats their decision. Theres studies on it, relating fiction to real life and vice versa, thats why desensitisation exists, fiction quite literally influences reality in MANY ways. Its uncontrollable really. When it comes for looking for consent...i dont think thats weird but maybe the opposite is strange. Purposefully searching for rape in anything you read is probably...iffy.
The problem that many fail to recognize regarding the prevalence of sexual violence in this sort of content is that it can contribute to the desensitization of victims of sexual violence, predominantly male i suppose since this is mainly a yaoi site. Male victims already lack the general understanding of the public and content that is contributing to rape culture probably doesnt help.
Also this is the study im refering to, theres a user called @synfull (i believe thats the username) you should discuss this topic with them, theyre very well educated.
Thompson J, Teasdale B, van Emde Boas E, Budelmann F, Duncan S, Maguire L, Dunbar R. Does believing something to be fiction allow a form of moral licencing or a 'fictive pass' in understanding others' actions?
 
NGL tho if theres actually someone out there who thinks Kim Dan or Jaekyung is an actual person...they need mental help

So many opinions here, its kind of interesting to see

Your view is so detailed and I appreciate you for writing something so detailed, it gave me lot of insight.
I agree with the fact that asian authors fetishise gay ppl but actually what they're really selling is, porn on paper or digitally. And porn actually Fetishes random stuff. But isn't it wrong to go to a porn author and expect them to not Fetishise things? That much freedom porn artists should have BUT the authors also need to stop selling their work as 'romance'. I'm so glad author of KS sold it as psychological thriller and not romance bl

I actually want to add on your tangent, the idea that only asian BLs fetishize is just insanity lmao, this idealistic view of western BL is so...distasteful. I honestly think BL as a whole has a very SERIOUS issue with fetishization and its not just the asian authors who do it and its not all of them either. I mean honestly we have so many problems with heteronormativity and "hey thats not how men work" in BL and we should hold any author accountable for that bs. I cant really speak too much for the western side considering i mainly read asian ones but there is definitely a fetishisms issue. We have to acknowledge that not ALL BL is like that, things like my sunny days exist too. Hopefully we'll just slowly see less of this self insert fetish stuff because i can see that its been dying down, lots of good BLs have come up as of late. Though, im not really sure if these stories accurately present the gay asian experience even, these authors tend to be female after all. Im not gonna be quick to judge though because who knows they could have some gay friend in the back giving them advice and whatnot.

I'm glad for such a detailed explanation from you and I'm ngl I was expecting you in the comments I agree with you about how fiction actually sometimes controls reality. But it's not right to blame fiction just like how it's not right to blame video games for making teens violent, act as terrorists, become school shooters etc. I think unsupervised access to internet is a huge problem and it is as real as the sun. Parents and guardians must be responsible for their kids and others they're taking care of (due to mental illnesses) and it's not okay to abuse internet. I literally saw an 11 year old child on this site today and my mind just went wtf. Because I saw what they had read in their reading list and it was shocking. It was explicit porn yaoi . So unsupervised internet is actually to blame I think

Definitely :)

Those arent fair comparisons at though, video games dont interconnect with violence and theres studies to prove that compared to people reading a mass of content with sexual violence shown to have increased levels of desensitisation. Maybe cause of rape culture, SEXUAL violence in general is just way more tricking because of the way society has ruined everything (blaming victims and sexualising rape etc etc).
I wasnt even thinkjng of kids when i wrote that omg but youre right. Children ESPECIALLY need more supervision because wtf is a 12 yro doing look at porn

Ah well i guess kids with video games could become desensitised to physical violence..im not sure about that im not too educated on it, probably not.

*ACCIDENTALLY FOLLOWED* i get your point but let me supervise you right here girl. Porn is a depiction of SEX. And sex WITHOUT CONSENT is called RAPE. Sex and rape are not the same thing. Rape is not porn, if rape is depicted in fiction, it is then a mere fictional depiction of sexual, physical and psychological abuse, it is NOT PORN. And sex is in no forms of abuse. So when you are viewing nonconsensual intercourse/abuse in fiction, you are viewing fictional rape not fictional sex. Read the panels of this album: https://www.mangago.me/home/album/369180/
Hope it'll help. (But if your intention is not to enjoy porn but to 'enjoy' rape, it's a different story)

I don't know but years of reading fucked up yaois and many other fucked stuff i automatically differentate characters from fiction to reality I realised I enjoy when fictional characters are messed up in their life since my life ain't goes right I enjoy stuff that way cuz may be emotional stuff gives butterflies and give stupid hopes people do enjoy it I m one of them but in reality it's a secret fetishes of people probably something that only you know about and enjoy but i read anything then I realise i forget them pretty fast don't know why unless it's some angst..

Haha I agree. But I really hope they stop selling porn as romance because it isn't
I've read a few western bl stories on wattpad and they had written things so weird I can't even write here and I'm 1000 per cent sure that they were written by creepy girls Fetishising two guys f*cking

How to download capter?

Ikr I was literally spooked and they also had 500+ manga they already read

Maybe, in the past school shooters have actually claimed in their diaries that they played video games so... But that doesn't mean every person who plays violent video games is bad or maybe they're... I dunno because there's no research or thesis on this :/

I agree with your definition of rape but I disagree with your definition of porn.
Here's the definition of porn "television programmes, magazines, books, etc. that are regarded as emphasizing the sensuous or sensational aspects of a non-sexual subject and stimulating a compulsive interest in their audience." so basically porn isn't about sex but it's about arousal. One can be aroused by looking at a man's penis but other can be aroused by looking at a woman wearing heels. So arousal actually depends from person to person. So it's not right to say that only sex is porn.

I don't particularly enjoy rape play lol but many ppl do and it actually seems unfair to me judge someone for their Fetishes on a porn site

Also I don't really give a lot of thought in fictional rape/sex/literally anything else because I just let it be fiction. As I've mentioned before I've read some really cruel stuff here including animal cruelty to it's finest. So I tend to just keep it as fiction on my mind.

And also thank you for expanding my view on this topic :)