It's Really Pitiful

But didn't the other guy felt the same way also? If you read the story throughout, you can see that his boyfriend clearly felt the same way the whole time. I get what you're saying, but that's such a one sided way to see the story :/

It's the lack of proper communication on both ends that frustrates me about this doujinshi. But the fact that Kuroo ("the other guy", if you read the story throughout), was apparently in love with Tsukki but slept with other people, shows how the body can easily betray the mind and heart. Personally, I would not trust a guy like that. He did, after all, sleep with girls who had boyfriends. A person with loose morals like that is concerning, no matter how "strongly" the mangaka tried to illustrate the weight of Kuroo's feelings.

Well, the blonde guy and the other guy weren't official and the blonde one never said anything to the other guy? The blonde guy literally said that he slept with plenty of other dudes (and though that maybe a lie), then why can't the other guy sleep with other people? I mean, everybody copes with things differently and that's how the other guy deals with their relationship. The main blonde one was only seen as pitiful because we only get to see his POV.

Different types of people

Kuroo had made no promises to anyone. And there is no garauntee that he knew about the boyfriend before she mentioned him (beleive me, that happened to my brother and he was gutted. He never knew and felt sick that this girl had just assumed he knew or some shit.)
Kuroo was also trying to protect himself in some way, Kei was honestly a bit hostile in their interactions he never once tried to show that there could be something more. Kuroo was trying to find a way out too and when he saw a sliver of hope he leapt and really bared his heart in confession. Like that was gutsy, for all he knew he was just a stress fuck and the vomiting was unrelated. (After all Kei had been hiding that too.)

This wasnt a issue of bad people, it was an issue of fear and miscommunication.

Also, on betrayal of heart and body uhm there are terms such as Aromantic, asexual, demisexual, demi romantic etc and they are spectrum things?

Some people really can seperate feelinsg from sex, while some can't. It a person by person thing we arent all the same everyones wiring is unique to them and its really kinda cruddy to tell someone that just because they love someone who doesnt return their feelings they can't hav3 sex or try to find someone new because that invalidates their feelings???

Like maybe is Kuroo had been commited and dating Kei and they were monagomous and he cheated it would be one thing but that really wasnt the case.

Its like rebound sex doesnt mean you didnt love the other person, sex isnt always synonymous with feelings. Hell your body can be made to orgasm artificially with electrodes and a computer! No physical stimulus needed!

Yet he still went ahead and slept with her despite knowing she has a boyfriend? Sure, whatever you say. Also, your brother's reaction is NOT comparable to Kuroo's. I don't know what you read, but Kuroo was very casual about it. In no way was he "gutted" or felt bad in any way.

You literally just repeated my comment about how they have poor communication, but sure you do that.

Japanese perspective on LGBTQ+ culture is different from the western perspective. Please don't equate western ideas with eastern. Of course I get that the sexuality/gender spectrum is wide, but its not the same with Japanese culture.

1) your sarcasm is unnecessary. I just commented to have a discussion and if you fekt attacked I apologize.

2)What I meant was the girl didnt mention the boyfriend till after the sex. And my comparsion to my brother the girl he thought he was dating literally just went "oh my boyfriend is back tomorrow, so dont text me" after sex one day.

3) Kuroo asks the girl if she is safe going home alone and that is when she says she has a boyfriend.

4) Kuroo said he was trying to be serious about the girl but "if she has a boyfriend I guess thats no-go" this line again supports the idea that he didnt know before the sex.

5) Kei initiates the sex at the beginning, most of the time in the middle and initiates the threesome, but Kuroo is the one with the problem? Kuroo had stopped responding because he was trying build distance. He felt his love was unreturned just as much as Kei did.

6) yeah. Beacuse I agree with the miscommunication part of your comment. But the majority of my reply was about Kuroo and my defense of his character. My point was and still is that there is no one to really blame in this dj and its a shame that Kuroo alone has his character torn up just because he didnt devote himself to desperately to a guy who treated him like he didnt matter beyond sex.

Kuroo wasnt allowed to get close, he was blocked off to a sex corner. Kei never gave him a damn thing to hope for but he still noticed him. Noticed he lost weight, made him food and worried. He just felt he had no right to do more.

The more you compare your brother to Kuroo, the more I'm seeing a personal bias and irrelevance. Kuroo is not your brother. I repeat, Kuroo was very casual about it. You compared your brother's feelings/experience to this story and that is an anecdotal logical fallacy.

Real Quick This: "Japanese perspective on LGBTQ+ culture is different from the western perspective. Please don't equate western ideas with eastern. Of course I get that the sexuality/gender spectrum is wide, but its not the same with Japanese culture."

This is written to sound like it makes sense when at the end it actually doesn't. Sexuality and Gender are not defined by race. While cultural attitude can be applied when it comes to social norms and the acceptance of ideas, that doesn't mean that demisexual, asexual, aromantic people don't exist in Japan. That is like saying I wasn't asexual until I learned the word for it. Like my body just changed because this "brand new" idea came around.

People were Gay before there was a word for it, same with any other term on the sexuality and gender spectrum. Words were made because the feelings and experiences existed and we needed something to call them.

Second, in response to this comment.

As for my "anecdote" For it to be a logical fallacy I would need to A) be using it as the sole evidence in my argument and B) be saying it makes my statement true. I believe I said there was "No guarantee" and that it was an "idea". Aka my theory. While I can agree the "anecdote" was probably unnecessary, it still remains that the bulk of my argument rested on an examination of the characters words and actions through out the story.

More to the point, this really isn't about my argument, this is about your disinterest in the argument, which is fine, I get that, most people do not enjoy long lively discussions on character motivation quite like I do.

I know I did just respond to the part about Japanese/Western ideas but if you just straight up don't want to have these discussions with me, that's cool. I like talking to other people and comparing experiences and ideas and having peaceful conversations about manga, but it's no good if its bothering you.

Okay, since you didn't understand it, I'll elaborate.

Japanese LGBTQ+ culture is different from western ideas. I already agreed in saying that sexuality and gender is a wide spectrum and it spans across the world. But what you're failing to get is, words like demisexual, asexual, etc.? They virtually have yet to exist in Japanese LGBTQ+ culture. In addition, to equate that with a yaoi doujinshi, which on its own is already a sexualied fantasy written for female consumption, does not fit because they are not meant to portray actual LGBTQ+ relationships. These are terminlogies that most likely was not the intention of the author. If you really think that western perspective has spread that far, you're severely underestimating how Japanese LGBTQ+ culture is.

I don't know whether you just googled that, but an anecdotal logical fallacy is also when you use a personal experience as evidence. You were very firm in defending Kuroo and his blasé attitude towards cheating using your brother which is irrelevant, and a different story. Period.

Also, just because I'm not interested in discussing this particular story, it doesn't mean that I dislike talking about stories and characters in general. This story simply irks me because of how terrible their communication was, and a story where miscommunication spans years is frustrating for me due to my own personal reasons. As I said before, I find this frustrating, and that was my own comment. It was not a signaling beacon for people to start an unnecessary discussion. For a yaoi doujinshi.