Maybe look at it differently. Dan being mistreated, drugged, beaten, etc., yet he remains himself. Many would be as humble as him. He is strong in that why.
That's just bad writing, imagine writing a story where the mc goes through the gutter and then still have them be almost the same in chapter 100 as they have been in chapter 1
I was talking about someone’s strength. It has nothing to do with writing.
Dan isn’t in the same position either. And JInx is at chapter 46.
Your comment doesn’t correlate with what I was saying.
In this case it does since he is a fictional character and I think how the "strength" is written is quite important in this case, all these things were done to him yet we do not see him reflect on all the things that have been done to him. Those things kind of just seem oddly glossed over in favour for JK's future get better arc for the most part I guess?
Also he has been the same character since chapter 1, he feels like a cardboard cutout cute uwu uke quite frankly, I think only now is when we actually get to see any change in him. I'm personally not entirely sure Mingwa is going to handle that arc well but we'll see
We can talk about your topic. But understand your topic is not what I was saying and the writing of a story had nothing to do with what I am saying.
What I was saying had nothing to with him reflecting on what has happened to him either.
I was saying Dan is strong to be as kind and helpful as he is with all the terrible things that has happened to him. Most people can’t handle it.
If someone had loan sharks beating you up every time they see you. To cope with these feelings, they may develop an eating disorder, misuse alcohol or other drugs, or harm themselves. Some people will kill themself. I know he has anxiety but it could be worse in other people.
Some would be emotionally numb. He does have low self-esteem.
He has to handle his grandmother with cancer in the hospital. He had to deal with the loan sharks and etc.
just having to work and worry about his grandma would be stressful.
You think he stays the same but he has been changing.
Let’s go with your opinion. He has stayed the same. He has stayed the same, feeling as you said a cardboard cutout. He is strong because he is the same where others wouldn’t know how to cope and spiral down.
He is a survivor and many in this position would gave up.
I would be stressed out with having someone in the hospital and having to work many jobs. Then add the loan sharks. Thinking about it he was hurting himself, he was malnourished.
I was talking about his inner-strength and his resilience in the trauma he has endured. Yes, I know people cope in their own way.
Now to your topic. Not all copes by reflecting on what happened to them. It would be interesting to see Dan reflecting and maybe that would help people understand him and the story better. I do understand why he hasn’t on many levels.
There are times were he did think back to them. I don’t really think it is getting glossed over, especially for JK’s arc.
Dan did change a bit and he started to accept his feelings that he denied himself. I can see character growth with him but he still needs to glow up more.
Changes take time. He will glow up more the story is not done. Trust her and be patient. She knows her characters and story. She put a lot of research into this. You can tell it.
The chapter we just got was Dan somewhat reflecting. Other than that the only reflection we got out of him was him being heavily in denial about the type of person the seme is. He hasn't done anything to even stand up to the seme. Even when the seme poured milk on him, his response was to say the seme was stressed out and it was his fault. His entire persona is him being this cute femboy-like character who can't fend for himself as a grown adult!! Even if it's for his "strength" that still doesn't change the fact that the seme has gone through nothing although being the worst character in the book. Even if you look at the last chapter Dan is still being targeted after just barley figuring out the seme doesn't actually love him.
A hater reader, I assume?
Are you sure you are not in heavily denial about Jaekyung. She is intentionally writing to make you hate him but there are hints about his real personality. Personality not his bad behaviors. Your topic is the same as BoxyTrash and not mine.
BoxyTrash was about the reflection not me.
He has stood up to JK. And remember this story is not finished. Read BJ Alex it has similar patterns and it seems from comparing the stories, you are rushing the story.
It was soda that the seme poured on him. People do stand up in different ways.
“ Even if it's for his "strength" that still doesn't change the fact that the seme has gone through nothing although being the worst character in the book.”
That is not relevant to my point. He is not the worst character in the book. The loan sharks are.
Who have treated Dan much worse.
Can you really say JK does not love with regardless of the hints and story points? Are you falling for words at face value?
Do you understand Jk?
Yes these things are true within the manhwa, I'm just saying they are just in my opinion narratively poorly presented. Both these things can be true.
Everybody reflects on any type of situations, that is not a matter of coping. But Dan doesn't actually reflect on anything besides on how JK feels or feeling pity for him most of the time, that just makes him really boring and feel more like a tool for JK's redemption arc
That barely brought a change to his character. He is still the same but now just aware about his feelings. Now if after the most recent chapter he breaks or grows a backbone I will get my popcorn ready because that sounds like an enticing concept
Yeah I know it takes time but guess what I adore slow burn and this really ain't it. Funnily enough I'm more confused on why the author didn't take even more time to build in any more slow building romantic chemistry between them because 98% of the time their interactions were purely sexual and abusive - so no I really cannot tell. And hey maybe something amazing is going to happen that makes me eat my words but I really doubt that. All I know is that I find this story interesting for all the wrong reasons so I will keep on reading and find out lol
When I said not everyone reflects on it. I should had said that was from a website or put “”.
I looked up something to trying to explain what I meant to get us on the same page.
After reading your replies and the ops …. I think you two are both… how to say this…I don’t want to word this wrong….. are both Fans who are just criticizing the story. Natural.
You two… seem …. Attached to Jinx more than me. I can feel both of your passion and frustrations. Again.natural.
We don’t know what Dan reflects on or not. We don’t see his thoughts every day and every second. She should had added it and maybe that would stop some nonsense.
She has changed him a little and he isn’t the same from the beginning. He does need to glow.
They are not boyfriends or dating. They are in a contract relationship. They both need to glow before that. This is a toxic relationship not a healthy relationship. He does have a backbone. He has used it. Then you wonder why he is not more. I think you are missing something from his character.
I will have to look up the chapters to explain that. I just don’t want to say it and then have a discussion with out us being on the same page.
He is a cowardly bottom (tag) but he is his own person and from an indirect communication culture. I assume you are from a direct communication culture? Indirect is not body language.
Someone from a direct culture would say turn on the heater.
Someone from an indirect culture would say it is cold, isn’t?
In America, straightforward communication is often valued, while indirect communication is more common in Korea. Koreans may avoid confrontation and use indirect language to convey their message, while Americans may see this as evasive and prefer a more direct approach
Your complaint could be aligning with their customs. This is a Korean story wrote by a Korean. https://asiaexchange.org/blogs/10-surprising-differences-between-korean-vs-american-culture/#:~:text=In%20America%2C%20straightforward%20communication%20is,prefer%20a%20more%20direct%20approach.
When you are reading these graphic novels you are learning things from their respective countries.
To preface, I'm not really a fan (although I used to love BJ Alex a lot) and in a way you could say I'm a "hate reader" but not the type who would shoot somebody down because they like the story. It's personally one of the worse BLs I have read as of recent (I have read intentionally effed up things and enjoyed them but Jinx doesn't try to be effed yet still appears so in a story that is supposed to turn honey sweet romantic and it's just not that good writing wise to warrant it's popularity) so I just like critiquing and having normal discussions around it because it's interesting to me. I really don't mind you liking the story and having your own opinions about it though, I just think it showcases a lot of glaring problems and problematic elements that one tends to see in BL and I think are worth having a convo about.
I realise this is a toxic relationship, no doubt about that. It's just that we are supposed to feel it's believable that Dan fell for JK without having any of the romantic chemistry...? If this was a psychological story I'd be a 100% on board and probably even like it but it's supposed to be romance and in my honest opinion it's failing at that.
Also when did Dan have an actual backbone where somebody backed off or had a significant reaction? Geniune question cuz I do not recall that at all lol
I actually have done some research about korean culture before, so I knew that (I'm also not from America if you assumed that hah) but I believe it doesn't have anything to do with what I said.
Why is it always Dan?? Why can't the seme lose a match or something happen to him, why is it always Dan being mistreated, drugged, beaten, etc. It's as if his character was specifically made to be the book punching bag which is just so boring.