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Chickens

May January 9, 2017 11:45 am

Ok, let's get right to it
Was a horrified and slightly scarred?
YES.

But, let's get real~ bestiality is a thing
It does take place in the porn industry
It is perverted and gross.
But what? You're all ok with people being pressured into sex (like Ibuki here), but you draw the line at chickens?

If a love story materializes out of thin air, that makes everythn ok, right? (Sarcasm)
It's all disgusting if we're being truly honest.

I guess the mangaka put that in for shock factor and also to emphasize on the "reality" of the industry. And also as a tool to call out Ibuki on his holier-than-thou tirade. I'll give him props for speaking up and also taking responsibility in that situation.
Although, he really didn't put up much of a fight against taking part in the sex tape. And didn't seem as terrified as any normal straight man would in taking part in a sex tape and taking it up the ass for the first time
That was a major negative for me~ as in, i wish the mangaka had stressed on that a little more.

Responses
    Yuta January 9, 2017 12:20 pm

    It's not like that... Pressured or not, people can refuse and defend themselves. Animals can't. And that's where the line is drawn

    chic January 9, 2017 2:49 pm

    Agree with Yuta above. The line is the mutual consent and the sound mind to understand the situation they are about to enter.

    Animals can't. Babies, toddlers, and children also can't. When that sex star said men and women of all ages, did he implicitly include babies and children as well?

    kyouran January 9, 2017 4:29 pm

    In total agreement with Yuta and chic. Cognitive-mature human beings have the power to 'reason', the ability to make choices, to defend themselves, whereas animals, children and cognitive-impaired adults don't. This is why children are universally deemed so precious, because of their vulnerability, their absolute dependency on adults. On the collective consciousness, to harm a child is considered the most repugnant sin of humanity, precisely because of that. The same principle applies to animals, because they cannot defend themselves from human 'mallice', while an adult human being has the ability to do so.

    In my home, we are ardent animal lovers, especially dogs. We adopt strays and have a pack of them. One time my only son, a teenager at the time, jokingly complained that I prioritized our dogs, and I asked him what would he do if he got hungry and I or his father wasn't at home? and he replied the he would order take out or cook something for himself, I then asked him, what would happen if the dogs got hungry but nobody was home, what if nobody would ever come home? and he responded that they would starve...exactly. Domestic animals are absolutely dependent on their human retainers, and they cannot defend themselves against human neglect or human abuse (same goes for wild animals in captivity); from an ethical standpoint, their well being should take priority; however, this is not the reality because of speciesism, which is the erroneous, unethical idea that the human animal is superior to other animals.

    This is not an argument in favor of animal rights over human rights, or condoning human rape, abuse, etc. which is unequivocally wrong. This is an argument that from an ethical standpoint, because of their absolute vulnerability to human reason, animal abuse, just like children abuse or cognitive impaired adult abuse, lies on a greater critical dimension.

    May January 12, 2017 1:30 pm

    I agree with you all

    However, it's easy for us to say that people can refuse and defend, but there are many people in the porn industry who actually feel that they cannot do that. It's not always that easy to get out of it.

    Also, let's say Ibuki did try to get out of it. Something tells me that the men there wouldn't have let him go so easily. He'd either be beaten to a pulp before being chucked out or physically be forced to take part in the sex tape.
    He willingly took part probably to stay true to what he said about there being many able bodied men around who could take the chicken's place. And also because he was curious bout what it would be like to have sex with that guy.

    Anyway, beastiality is obviously not okay and is disgusting.
    I'm thankful that the manga artist didn't go down that road, and only alluded to it.
    I also liked that the mangaka added that dialogue by the background characters saying, "it's our job. What can we do?"