Cirrus is a POS

It doesn’t justify the things he’s done but he’s a very human character and people relate to that. I enjoy him as a character

Yeah, his traumas molded him, so people can relate to that

For the interesting people downvoting, here’s a cute little list of all the shit he’s done!

1. Sexual harassment (self-exposing to women to discomfort them)
2. Intentionally (and dangerously) distressing an animal because it wasn’t responding to him
3. Told his GRIEVING FATHER that he hates him (for something that wasn’t his fault) and acted like an overall shithead, then got traumatized when the father stopped liking him.
4. Blackmail
5. Attempted murder, assault
6. Spent like half the series trying to isolate Skylar, who was trying to heal from previous social trauma
7. Has issues with his own vulnerability, yet capitalizes on Skylar’s vulnerabilities
8. Intentionally tried to depress Skylar

Etc etc etc. Truly a piece of work, manipulative, unlikeable shithead of a character.

He’s definitely well-written, and a very interesting/strong character. But the way people LIKE (outside of a character-writing sense) Cirrus astounds me. He’s definitely a ‘human’ character, but absolutely a morally red character.

womp womp

u when mentally ill person does things that a mentally ill person does:
cirrus is HEAVILY implied to have bpd, which obviously doesn't excuse his actions but it definitely helps to understand him more. HE WAS A KID!!! WHO JUST LOST HIS MOTHER!!! DID U EXPECT HIM TO JUST BEHAVE LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED???? both him and his dad suffered but the difference is that CIRRUS WAS 7!! HIS DAD WAS A GROWN ASS ADULT did u forget how he said he would rather cirrus die insead of his wife AND CIRRUS HEARD HIM SAY THAT TOO JUST WHEN HE WAS ABT TO GO APOLOGIZE TO HIM FOR HIS BEHAVIOR. "distressing an animal" bffr once again he was just a kid and he was acting on impulse because he had no one else there for him and when even an animal rejected him, he just lost it but as he said, he didn't actually want to hurt it, it wasn't his intention. "attempted murder" this bitch fucking deserved that lmaooo "intentionally tried to depress Skylar" tf does that even mean.
i would reaaaallyy recommend for u to look up what bpd is and maybe reread the series cause it's clear u completely misunderstood it and cirrus' characters. there's plenty of explanations on tiktok and twitter of how cirrus is bpd coded too. it baffles me how someone can misunderstand the story so much tbh i feel bad for paskim that people like u read her work lol

“He’s just a kid” “but his mom died” notice how none of those things are reasonable or acceptable reasons for sexual harassment, animal cruelty, attempted murder, assault, etc? At 7 years old, you would intentionally distress animals and unjustly blame/hate people for huge things like someone else’s death? Sounds like you have some issues.
I can live with personality disorders and disabilities without being a disgusting, manipulative, intentionally-harmful person. Hope this helps!

Ps, Cirrus intentionally tried to depress Skylar by constantly placing him in situations he knew would make him feel despair/hopelessness. This is a re-occurring theme in the story, as Cirrus doesn’t give a flying fuck about what’s best for Skylar.

Literally everyone knows Skylar has BPD, doesn’t make his actions excusable or reasonable. Not that you’d know much about that, given you think a woman with a selfish, bitchy personality who minds her business for the most part deserved to experience attempted murder. Also, this is the SAME ARTIST who wrote sheep’s mask, so to pretend like when she writes a clearly disgusting character she intends to make their actions excusable is crazy. Cirrus was a nasty piece of shit to his father BEFORE hearing him say that he wishes it was Cirrus instead.

Girl not you getting mad at pixels in an illegal website. And the way your analysis of Cirrus’s character is so wrong and downplayed. Go worry about real life problems

Quote exactly which part I said that is incorrect, i’ll wait ╮(￣▽￣)╭

I'm just gonna say this, if you expect this man to be some kind of perfect character then this ain't for you, cirrus is obviously a complex character that has faced extreme isolation and abandonment issues, he's not gonna be perfect lol, human beings don't exist in a vacuum. Like that person said those are reasons as to why he's like that. The story doesn't excuse his actions, but give reasons to them. I'm not defending him, I just think you don't understand him as a character. People like him for whatever reasons, and they are allowed to. As they say if you don't like it ignore it

I don't condone his behavior but his dad was definitely a POS first. He said to his GRIEVING SON that he wished him to be dead instead of his wife. He was an adult who was supposed to help his child to process the grief. If he couldn't do it himself he should've paid for professional help. Money doesn't seem to be a problem for him. Instead he traumatized his son even further, left him with no support at the most vulnerable time of his life. Which resulted in Cirrus' SA because predators love that shit. That dad deserves to burn in hell.

I totally agree that the dad is a shit character that completely let his son down, but it should be noted that he said those things (wishing it was Cirrus instead of lover) AFTER hearing Cirrus say that he hates him and started rejecting his affections. Cirrus was the first one to be outwardly nasty in their relationship, not that it would excuse the way he treated his kid

It makes sense that his awful personality stems from his experiences, i’m not saying that he’s poorly written or bad as a character-build. He’s just a terrible terrible person, which is why I can’t understand people liking him as a ‘person.’ (As in the personality and heart of a character, not the quality of the writing)

Girly I think your forgetting he's a child, that is normal for children going through grief to act out, they don't understand the situation so they act out. But yeah his dad deserves hell, I agree with you he's not a good person just a mentally fucked up one

You drastically overlook the power dynamic between the 7 year old kid and an adult man who is supposed to be his caregiver.

Cirrus was being “nasty” cuz it’s how kids grieve their parents’ death in some cases. Especially when his father didn’t give him a chance to properly grieve his mom’s death which you can see in a piano scene (ch 74) where his father lets himself cry but when Cirrus tries to express his grieve, he shuts his mouth with his hand.

In ch. 75 Cirrus even goes to his dads room to apologise for throwing a fit (which you conveniently ignore) while his dad literally a middle aged grown man never apologised for hurting his kid.

You can hate the current Cirrus as much as you want but don’t try to villainise a child who had a good faith in every adult: his father, first stepmother, teacher, nanny but ended up being abandoned and betrayed by all of them.

You say that Cirrus is well written, but you definitely don’t understand his character at all, regardless whether you like him or not.

Exactly what I mean. That's why his dad should've seeked professional help for both himself and his kid. He had hard time handling grief himself yet expected Cirrus to somehow just get over it. And I still can't forgive him for allowing one of his mistresses to throw away all of mom's belongings treasured by his child.

i dont know who you are but shut the fuck up please. Hes a mentally ill child whos gone through so much shit and you expect him to be a fucking green flag?

I'm not trying to make you like him, since you have the right to dislike who you want, but if you care to read my opinion about it:

You are right, Cirrus is a mentally ill person who is very manipulative and nasty, i can't "defend" him in things revolving Skylar (blackmail, isolating, purposely putting on stressful situations) since he was actually a pure asshole there, instead i can only explain the reasoning behind other items you mentioned.
Number 2 and 3: many have already said but he was a child who lost his mother, and that DOES excuse it. Seven years old aren't actually that mature and if not given proper advice and vigilance around how to treat animals they WILL mistreat it, in Cirrus case he acted out because of his neglectment and resentment towards his father mistresses, and i know many people when as a child indeed up hurting and even killing small animals because they didn't know better! (For example, my dad and his brothers once killed a bunch of baby chickens by throwing them at the wall like balloons, sad and terrifying, i know, he isn't proud of that but he was a child younger than 10yo). And about him telling his GRIEVING FATHER that he hate him was because he actually was a GRIEVING CHILD! He was confused and emotional with the sudden change in his daily life without his mother, yes, the father had the right to mourn and get hurt by his kid words, but the problem is that he was grown man, Cirrus wasn't. And the most heartbreaking thing is, Cirrus actually understood that he hurt his father and went to apologize, then he heard that whole "i can't love him anymore, etc", that affected him a LOT, but they could have bonded over it if his father had simply gone after him, hugged, apologized and heard him cry. Even if it took him some time (minutes or hours to regain his reasoning), he HAD to reach out and talk it with Cirrus. But instead he decided to be a neglectful father who brought many unknown young women and let them be 24/7 alone with his child who can't deal with changes, what a great idea right? And here i thought you had to be smart to be rich lol...
Welp, now, to the sexual harassment part, yup he was NASTY, not the best way to deal with it, but would doing something else really fix the problem? Those women weren't there to be his parent, they were there for the money, I wouldn't want to live with a unknown woman who is supposed to be my mother but don't give a shit about me, and pleading to his father didn't help, so those women wouldn't leave for anything except if he wasn't inconvenient. So i can excuse him a bit in that one, and did that really harm those woman? Just was like i said, inconvenient, it isn't like they got emotionally/psychologically hurt by seeing a teen's dick.
The attempt murder was REALLY bad and she didn't deserve to die, but for sure be punched. She isn't innocent, she never cared for him and was only polite when they first met, she don't give a fuck about his personal space and does the same things Cirrus do (puts him in stressful situations like Candy "dissappearence", sexual harassment: fuck his father in HIS room knowing there's a cam and manipulation around his father), and the worst part is, she is a bystander to his father abuse, she prefers to see him get spanked just so she can live in luxury and get revenge for his petty acts (embarassing her in front of her "friends"). And she must have done a lot of things who weren't show ever since they started living together who triggered Cirrus to be so extreme. So yeah, doesn't change that fact, but obviously explains it.

Basically, he is relatable because he is HUMAN, he adapts from his life's experiences and surroudings! Throughout the series he is a very mean person but you can see him gradually changing by having a positive influence on him: Skylar. They are like "negative + negative = positive" because both are mentally ill people who actually gets better by being with each other and facing their dark past because of their exposure.
Him changing is what makes him likable, he gives us hope, i'm sure that all the readers and enjoyers of LTOC are people who suffered things that molded them into who they are now, and feel like they are incapable of changing, but by seeing this piece of shit who also suffered tons of shit actually change is inspiring. Paskim did a good writing because she could show that slow change, and that's why people are saying you didn't properly understand the manhwa or the character.

Kinda embarrassed of how long it is and of the wording mistakes, but would appreciate if people with different opinions reply! It's always nice to have others pov's since I can be ignorant in some points when talking about things I'm interested in...