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Ch1. Corsets are not actually....that bad......even working women wore them and..... I'm n...

Mind Circus March 7, 2024 12:55 am

Ch1.
Corsets are not actually....that bad......even working women wore them and..... I'm not even going to try anymore ;-;

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    Mind Circus March 7, 2024 1:02 am

    Though if she was being abused it is possible they gave her a ill-fitted corset and pulled it too tight(aka, tightlacing)

    ddmahan922 March 7, 2024 1:35 am
    Though if she was being abused it is possible they gave her a ill-fitted corset and pulled it too tight(aka, tightlacing) Mind Circus

    Her stepmother definitely seems the type to cause her discomfort in anyway possible- and it does seem like a lot of people don't know that a proper fitting corset could be supportive and comfortable

    cinnabonbon March 7, 2024 12:37 pm

    Have you seen victorian corsets? They're absolutely different from the corsets we wear now. Your guts could literally be rearranged

    Asuka March 7, 2024 4:05 pm
    Have you seen victorian corsets? They're absolutely different from the corsets we wear now. Your guts could literally be rearranged cinnabonbon

    There’s a lot of researchers that demystified it. What they did during that time was combine corsets with puffy dresses to create the illusion of a extremely tiny waist.
    Of course they were a little tight but, not to the point of breaking ribs or rearranging organs. The ones you mentioned were used by a small portion of the population, normally of the elite but even amount them, not every woman opted for it.

    Mind Circus March 7, 2024 9:25 pm
    There’s a lot of researchers that demystified it. What they did during that time was combine corsets with puffy dresses to create the illusion of a extremely tiny waist. Of course they were a little tight but... Asuka

    I will second that saying that most "proof" we have that they rearranged organs are Victorian drawn pictures and diagrams. Which, I will say, you wouldn't want a Victorian doctor within 50 feet of you, so why do you trust that they got the corset right? A traditionally female item in a patriarchal society? Designed, made, and mostly sold by women? Old photographs were also edited to make waistlines smaller, among other things. I don't think it's right to say that corsets are bad if your evidence consists of rumours. I will also say that almost all women wore corsets, even the ones working on farms and in manual labor, so wouldn't people be fainting left and right? But they didn't. Honestly, corsets are not that bad. You just need to have them fitted and you can wear them loose!

    cinnabonbon March 8, 2024 4:05 am
    There’s a lot of researchers that demystified it. What they did during that time was combine corsets with puffy dresses to create the illusion of a extremely tiny waist. Of course they were a little tight but... Asuka

    Like you said, tight corsets were still used but by the elite. Therefore it still exists and the characters in the manhwa are literally royals. Elites of the elite.

    Asuka March 8, 2024 1:55 pm
    Like you said, tight corsets were still used but by the elite. Therefore it still exists and the characters in the manhwa are literally royals. Elites of the elite. cinnabonbon

    I didn’t say it. I said that it wasn’t common even between the elite because they knew it was dangerous. Have you ever thought how it can effect pregnancy? The main rule women of that time had? Saying that the royals would definitely use it, is a exaggeration.

    Mind Circus March 8, 2024 11:00 pm
    Like you said, tight corsets were still used but by the elite. Therefore it still exists and the characters in the manhwa are literally royals. Elites of the elite. cinnabonbon

    Even considering some nobles using tight corsets, people knew it was bad. As well as, you know, it's really hard to pull a corset so tight that it would affect your organs. Maybe squeeze your stomach or something, but not do anything detrimental of you wore it for a short time. Considering women also wouldn't wear these tight corsets all the time, injury wouldn't be common. Even the nobles and royals knew this. It also wouldn't hurt that much, corsets, because women are trained from a young age to get used to wearing one, like young children wearing sports bras(I do believe they did have more comfortable versions used for training) and the ones that seem uncomfortable today only survived because they weren't worn often. Which means, it wasn't common to wear super tight or restrictive corsets and even less popular to not have it fitted. Within the context of the princess, visiting or walking around the palace and not in an extremely formal occasion, her wearing a tight corset would not happen. (This does have exceptions, maybe if she was super obsessed with her body she may wear super tight corsets all the time or her family was forcing her to. Either way, it's not common even among the nobility.

    cinnabonbon March 10, 2024 5:11 pm
    Even considering some nobles using tight corsets, people knew it was bad. As well as, you know, it's really hard to pull a corset so tight that it would affect your organs. Maybe squeeze your stomach or somethi... Mind Circus

    I ain't reading allat. And also from what I've researched, prolonged usage of victorian corsets amongst women still causes some issues especially with young girls. Which is practically the case being mentioned in the manhwa. Point is, those kind of corsets still did exist at some point in history and it's being used in this "fictional" manhwa. End of discussion.

    cinnabonbon March 10, 2024 5:13 pm
    I didn’t say it. I said that it wasn’t common even between the elite because they knew it was dangerous. Have you ever thought how it can effect pregnancy? The main rule women of that time had? Saying that ... Asuka

    Corsets were sometimes used to conceal their bumps to hide pregnancy so idk where your thought came from

    cinnabonbon March 10, 2024 5:24 pm
    Corsets were sometimes used to conceal their bumps to hide pregnancy so idk where your thought came from cinnabonbon

    and if y'all still insists then let's put it this way. This is called fictional for a reason. Since when were historical manhwas accurate in the first place

    Asuka March 10, 2024 9:39 pm
    and if y'all still insists then let's put it this way. This is called fictional for a reason. Since when were historical manhwas accurate in the first place cinnabonbon

    Okay. Honestly, I forgot that I posted this because in the last few days I was more invested in the news about Akira Toriyama’s death than this.