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Ngl I think this guy should die honestly, but on another note, he’s basically the only o...

Gimmeyaoiineedyaoitolive March 12, 2024 1:38 am

Ngl I think this guy should die honestly, but on another note, he’s basically the only one we can “trust”, at least to not let him die. Even though he’s a forceful bastard, rapist, and has anger issues, he’s still the “best” option.

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    Cirrus March 12, 2024 7:54 am

    Manwha artist changed the story to make him a rapist. In the novel they have sex. ( ̄へ ̄)

    Sanity March 12, 2024 7:31 pm
    Manwha artist changed the story to make him a rapist. In the novel they have sex. ( ̄へ ̄) Cirrus

    Why TF would you make that change? If they have sex anyways why does it need to be noncon? What does it add to the story? I don't understand this brain circuit. I came here to complain about the MC's stupidity and now I'm speechless. Also

    Gimmeyaoiineedyaoitolive March 13, 2024 1:56 am
    Manwha artist changed the story to make him a rapist. In the novel they have sex. ( ̄へ ̄) Cirrus

    What’s up with yaoi artists and rape bro can’t there be respectful, non coercive, consensual, non abusive nor forceful in any way intercourse? Why is that shit so rare to find? AND CHANGING CONSENSUAL TO NON?!?!! PUT THAT ARTIST ON A LIST weird ass taste…

    Sanity March 13, 2024 2:48 am
    What’s up with yaoi artists and rape bro can’t there be respectful, non coercive, consensual, non abusive nor forceful in any way intercourse? Why is that shit so rare to find? AND CHANGING CONSENSUAL TO N... Gimmeyaoiineedyaoitolive

    Very much this. Yaoi isn't the only place it is a problem but damn. This is why my bar for MLs is so low. I was reading Daisy and the ML talked to the FL like a person worth respect, said women aren't property, and asked for continuous consent while checking if the FL was OK and I had palpitations.... Like (๑) this is a thing? There are Decent men in Manhwa (ᵒ ₀ ᵒ)wow!*✰

    Cirrus March 13, 2024 2:52 am

    There's a lot of people with rape kinks. That's one of my biggest guesses. It's why most manwha manhua and manga have them whether yaoi or not.

    It sucks so much that they had to ruin it, like why would they do that to the novel author yk?? Now people who don't read the novel will hate the ml

    Sanity March 13, 2024 11:35 am
    There's a lot of people with rape kinks. That's one of my biggest guesses. It's why most manwha manhua and manga have them whether yaoi or not. It sucks so much that they had to ruin it, like why would they do ... Cirrus

    I think I'm gonna opt out and try to find the novel. I could ignore the dubcon before but now that I know I can have Con this feels like trash. People may have this Kink but there are also a lot of us who don't. Can we have some effing balance. At least don't ruin good things.

    Cirrus March 13, 2024 12:57 pm
    I think I'm gonna opt out and try to find the novel. I could ignore the dubcon before but now that I know I can have Con this feels like trash. People may have this Kink but there are also a lot of us who don't... Sanity

    Definitely understandable. I also have this one as a bookmark instead now and will focus on the novel. I dislike when they change a story for the worse to satisfy their desires.

    It's sad most webtoons have it, wish they didn't

    Sanity March 13, 2024 8:17 pm
    Definitely understandable. I also have this one as a bookmark instead now and will focus on the novel. I dislike when they change a story for the worse to satisfy their desires. It's sad most webtoons have it, ... Cirrus

    Agreed this is a fundamental change in their interpersonal relationship which seems to be a large part of the story. I honestly find it super disrespectful to the original work

    sid-chi March 14, 2024 5:12 am
    There's a lot of people with rape kinks. That's one of my biggest guesses. It's why most manwha manhua and manga have them whether yaoi or not. It sucks so much that they had to ruin it, like why would they do ... Cirrus

    You right, it has to do with conservatives environments where sex and shown interest in it is considered a sin, or treated as a disease....people will still want sex obviously but "pretending" they don't want it will become the norm and a sign of "purity", integrity, or just a normal and expected thing....while someone who act like they want this is seen as a pervert, "desesperated"....just not "sexy" and not relatable for someone who had their sexuality suppressed for a long time....the good thing is that the less conservative less rape culture and fetish...what has been decreasing
    Funny tho is that a lot of rape victims enjoy it too, maybe because they too begin to see wanting sex as dirty or to see the real heavy stuff cuz it is what brings emotion in a depressed and empty state or even as a legit exposure therapy where they get desensitized or can recognize what they have been through and how they felt about it...and thus feel better.... the brain likes to bring our fears in to force us to heal it

    Cirrus March 14, 2024 9:07 am

    Yea I agree

    I used to be a big fan of Mo Dao Zu Shi. Still love the novel, anime, show, etc. I remember after finishing the main chapters of the novel, it follows to the "extra" chapters where mc is known to have a rape kink. It basically put me off and I couldn't finish the extra chapters. For me the novel ends where they stay together and the "steamy" chapters for the other readers well I'm not reading those yk. Their sex is constantly being compared to horny bunnies/rabbits and mc pretending to be raped or smth like that. I don't really remember since it was years ago for me but yea it's unsettling :/

    sid-chi March 14, 2024 5:56 pm
    Yea I agree I used to be a big fan of Mo Dao Zu Shi. Still love the novel, anime, show, etc. I remember after finishing the main chapters of the novel, it follows to the "extra" chapters where mc is known to ha... Cirrus

    I didn't saw that...but I do know Chinese bl is specially heavy in general, I think one of the heaviest and brutal rape I saw was a Chinese manga style comic, not because of the brutality being told but how grafic it was.....but I do think Chinese are more honest and Know what they are doing in comparison with Japanese where say no is the widely known norm for a girl, but a guy who is pushy is still seen as just pushy and ass or the Koreans where it is considered sexy and mainly a "pushy" guy
    But I still think all that is way better than western pedophile culture who also comes from purity culture

    Sanity March 14, 2024 11:33 pm
    You right, it has to do with conservatives environments where sex and shown interest in it is considered a sin, or treated as a disease....people will still want sex obviously but "pretending" they don't want i... sid-chi

    While I understand this on an intellectual level I don't understand it on a personal level. There is nothing wrong with wanting to fuck. It doesn't make you a "slut" and even if it did, sluts are hot....sometimes .... #NotAllSluts

    Cirrus March 15, 2024 4:12 am

    A bit unrelated but yessir I love confident power bottoms and power switches lol

    Dontmindme March 31, 2024 2:47 am
    You right, it has to do with conservatives environments where sex and shown interest in it is considered a sin, or treated as a disease....people will still want sex obviously but "pretending" they don't want i... sid-chi

    How did I learn so much about the brain from js one singular comment omg

    sid-chi March 31, 2024 11:47 pm
    How did I learn so much about the brain from js one singular comment omg Dontmindme

    Cuz I am a med student who is completely in love with psychiatry venting out my troughs online to train my English .....and have a excuse to read and watch anime (I feel guilty cuz I am not studing all the time I am not studing, and of course I know I shouldn't but we can't control how we feel)

    Mgazer_24 April 10, 2024 9:03 am
    Why TF would you make that change? If they have sex anyways why does it need to be noncon? What does it add to the story? I don't understand this brain circuit. I came here to complain about the MC's stupidity ... Sanity

    Yeah that’s the problem they show it like uke wants it at the same time he doesn’t (they) and the seme becomes rapist. Hope you understood

    Sanity April 12, 2024 5:19 am
    You right, it has to do with conservatives environments where sex and shown interest in it is considered a sin, or treated as a disease....people will still want sex obviously but "pretending" they don't want i... sid-chi

    I understand the concept of victims reading it. It makes sense. But as for conservative culture situation I severly dislike. Yes is being disolute and saying no is just being coy. It makes it seem like they all want to be fucked they just can't admit it (╯°Д °)╯╧╧. The main problem with this one is they changed it from the original

    Mgazer_24 April 12, 2024 5:30 am
    I understand the concept of victims reading it. It makes sense. But as for conservative culture situation I severly dislike. Yes is being disolute and saying no is just being coy. It makes it seem like they al... Sanity

    Ohhh that’s what I said!! I mean fr either make them beat the seme or just do it properly if they are showing it like they are liking it or whatever!

    sid-chi April 12, 2024 8:43 am
    I understand the concept of victims reading it. It makes sense. But as for conservative culture situation I severly dislike. Yes is being disolute and saying no is just being coy. It makes it seem like they al... Sanity

    It doesn't make it seems....it is actually that lol
    MY PERSONAL theory, not backed by anything but my own feelings and no there is no paper on it unlike the other information I gave you, is that that's the reason they have a difficult time understanding boundaries and the real reason they don't believe victims "she must have gave signals" "sbe wanted it" is totally just them projecting and thinking this is normal, that woman like that instinctively etc
    But regarding this story and many others.....for the drawer and their time it is probably a "fanservice" a funny, sexy little detail to make mc look desirable

    Sanity April 12, 2024 11:32 am

    I agree with your personal opinion since ego if you think you are desirable you assume that person wants you and make up an excuse like you gave me "that" look. I'm going to link this Thai comic for you. It covers this topic kind of beautifully. The girl gets sent to ancient times and has to deal with this BS. (The OG heroine died because 2 men were fighting over her) https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/loveless_heroine/