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Civln April 24, 2024 10:10 am

I just wondering guys, why so many readers here complaining about toxic seme & indebt uke x mafia seme trope but ok with story contain excessive scenes of rape/gang rape, sexual violence staff and other disgusting staff.

For example people love Pearl Boy & Missing Love which have all shet i've said above.
But at the same time they hate Jinx, Waterside Night etc.

To me toxic seme or what hater called typical trope (indebt uke x mafia/rich seme) still makes sense rather than glorify excessive rape/gang rape for the name of storyline.

Please share your opinion, no hate I just want to understand some hater viewpoint.

Responses
    CherryTree April 24, 2024 10:26 am

    It might simply not be the same people ? (???)
    (How do you know that they are the same people, did you keep track of all the names and opinions!??) _
    if some of them are the same people then you'll need to recruit them and interview them one by one and make a case study ! :-D _

    microwave April 24, 2024 10:30 am

    Jinx and waterside night also have rape in them. And the toxic ml x indebt mc eventually leads to sa and same with the mafia stories. I myself am a sucker for mafia ones but then stories like roses and champagne and the side stories of mad dog (I loved the main story..I even reread it a few times)have rape in them and with a rating of 9.4 or 9.5...just open the comments of jinx and see how many people justify the ml... regardless of whatever he did.
    There is always a rapist protection squad in the comments either it's of jinx or roses and champagne or any other. With the constant "what did you expect he's a mafia"..."rape is just part of the story progression"..."but he did aftercare "..."mc doesn't look like he's not enjoying "
    Just a general question. Why is it that they cry about it being rape when an old man or some random dude does it but it's not so when the ml does it. The art.The ml is always attempted to be made the buff..hansome guy.So many people on here are down for the art so bad that they even resort to protecting the ml. I love beautiful art too and I love handsome men too. But do I go defending their wrong. No.
    There's no point in asking it even if this was your genuine concern because if you try to tell them wrong they get way too defensive or aggressive.

    CherryTree April 24, 2024 10:33 am

    Personnally i got triggered = ruffled up and super unconfortable with Jinx and Pearl Boy season 2-3 _ but i can stomach Missing Love and Ourobouros, because they both show the physical and mental consequences of abuse, in a way that is digestible (for me ) _ i can't speak for other people. _

    Civln April 24, 2024 10:48 am
    It might simply not be the same people ? (???) (How do you know that they are the same people, did you keep track of all the names and opinions!??) _ if some of them are the same people then you'll need to recr... CherryTree

    I do check their reading list out of curiosity and admire actually (at first). I thought if they said jinx & waterside night bad so they might have high standard so I had high expectation for their reading list..

    Civln April 24, 2024 11:05 am
    Personnally i got triggered = ruffled up and super unconfortable with Jinx and Pearl Boy season 2-3 _ but i can stomach Missing Love and Ourobouros, because they both show the physical and mental consequences o... CherryTree

    Thank you for sharing :)

    To be honest even if I've read waterside night twice I still skip the rape part at chapter 2, I'll read it when I'm ready.
    Jaekyung is an as$hole since the beginning but it's more like harsh sex with consent (mostly) from Dan. Well it's the trope indebt uke x as$hole rich seme.
    Compare to rape scenes in missing love & pearl boy jinx still readable to me ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    So I think it's back to everyone preference & strong stomach that's understandable but at least don't hate irrationally..

    Civln April 24, 2024 11:17 am
    Jinx and waterside night also have rape in them. And the toxic ml x indebt mc eventually leads to sa and same with the mafia stories. I myself am a sucker for mafia ones but then stories like roses and champagn... microwave

    Thank you for sharing :)

    I do agree with you to some extend but I'm not trying to justify ml in jinx & waterside.
    Especially jinx I've read by Alex before so I know it will be toxic seme with sa or force s€x etc and I'm more into the progress of the ml to change to be a better person for mc. That's what I'm looking for!

    Not continuing sa/gang rape with no end, like what for? To me it's simply irrational even in story.. To cruel to me personally.. And people love it which I don't understand and they hating story less cruel than that..

    qwuanqwuan April 24, 2024 2:47 pm

    I JUST SAW SOMEONE HERE ASK FOR A PEDOPHILE STORY (/TДT)/

    zeleski April 24, 2024 4:24 pm

    The different is:
    Rape as trauma vs Rape as romance. Dark themes vs Dark romance.

    The scenes in Pearl boy are supposed to make you uncomfortable. Something horrible is happening to a character and you are angry and upset with them and can’t wait for the revenge they are gonna get.
    Reading and loving the story doesn’t always mean someone likes those scenes. (Dark themes)

    The rapist is Pearl boy is the bad guy, we hate him and want him to suffer. The rapist in jinx, rose’s and champagne, crash and burn, waterside night, and many more, are the main characters and main romantic partners (dark romance)

    If someone rapes another person they are the bad guy. So any story that is trying to convince me otherwise I don’t like.
    I don’t want to see them change to a better person. I don’t want them to have a happy ending. That is why I do not like Dark romances.

    CherryTree April 24, 2024 10:06 pm
    The different is:Rape as trauma vs Rape as romance. Dark themes vs Dark romance. The scenes in Pearl boy are supposed to make you uncomfortable. Something horrible is happening to a character and you are angry ... zeleski

    Excellent !! I really appreciate your wording. Very helpful , it brings lots of clarity. Big applause!!!

    Civln April 24, 2024 11:31 pm
    The different is:Rape as trauma vs Rape as romance. Dark themes vs Dark romance. The scenes in Pearl boy are supposed to make you uncomfortable. Something horrible is happening to a character and you are angry ... zeleski

    Thank you for sharing
    You are such an angel, aren't you? (⊙…⊙ )

    Civln April 24, 2024 11:33 pm
    I JUST SAW SOMEONE HERE ASK FOR A PEDOPHILE STORY (/TДT)/ qwuanqwuan

    That person deserves hell & report button.
    I've never seen one but if I do I'll report them straight away.

    zeleski April 25, 2024 12:25 am

    I’m glad it was helpful! Getting into audiobooks helped distinguishing the difference. Nothing like being 4 hours in and realizing this isn’t what I wanted.