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dark seer April 26, 2024 3:06 pm

does everyone really want griffith to die? I never wanted that and wanted them to be on good term in the end like they used to. Btw how come everyone thinks that guts can kill a god?

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    ladyyaz April 25, 2024 11:50 pm

    Bro I don’t even know
    Probably sacrificing his vessel which is his son so griffith can’t have a physical presence in the mortal realm I suppose
    But I always thought they should forget about and sail off further away and start over again (or try)

    dark seer April 26, 2024 1:10 am

    dude i read tons of things and this is the only story where i am uncertain about what i want in the end. I don't want griffith to die, i don't want him to be happy either. I want guts to be happy, but i don't want him to be happy without griffith. I don't think i will ever be satisfied with whatever the ending will be.

    Ju-on April 26, 2024 1:47 am

    I mean... I want Griffith to die because I think what he did was horrible. Do I think Guts can kill him, simple as that? No, he is indeed a God Hand. Do I want them to be companions as they were back in the day? Also, no, never. I think Griffith missed his shot to be an equal to anyone because he grew used to ambition, and couldn't give it up. Whatever forces moving the universe put these two in the places they are, and I keep observing the parallels between what seems to be Skullknights' and Void's story. Maybe they were destined to be mortal enemies forever, Guts to be possessed by the Berserker armor and keep struggling. But... on the other hand, I feel Griffith, unlike Void, finding his way to institute Falconia, merging realms by possessing the baby will lead to his downfall, by making him too Griffith, less Femto. Maybe the immortal entity Femto will keep existing, but Griffith, as he was bitchslapped by our boy Rickert, will perish, and therefore give a chance for Guts to live a brief happy life with the people he found now. Although I actually bet that they'll both die in the end.

    MarMars April 26, 2024 2:37 am

    ngl I might get bullied for this but I don't HATE Griffith..don't get me wrong I don't like him either and I don't support what he did/ will do but I don't hate him like the whole fandom does. he's an interesting character and I'm pretty sure the idea of his character is not to hate him so extremely, its supposed to be more complicated than that.. anyways idek what's gonna happen at this point..I just want guts to be happy :(

    dark seer April 26, 2024 3:00 am
    ngl I might get bullied for this but I don't HATE Griffith..don't get me wrong I don't like him either and I don't support what he did/ will do but I don't hate him like the whole fandom does. he's an interesti... MarMars

    i agree i don't hate him i always thought he went through hell and when he started cherising guts more than his dreams he snapped when guts left him. Even when he came back to griffith he wanted to leave with casca again and then eclipse started. I never hated griffith and never will.

    ladyyaz April 26, 2024 4:54 am
    ngl I might get bullied for this but I don't HATE Griffith..don't get me wrong I don't like him either and I don't support what he did/ will do but I don't hate him like the whole fandom does. he's an interesti... MarMars

    He is a very compelling antagonist.

    With berserk and the idea of causality, he was definitely struggling between where his ambition was taking him and the happiness he could’ve got with Guts, Casca and the rest of the band. While he gave into his “destiny”, Guts is still struggling. We don’t even know where Guts’s destiny is supposed to take him perhaps yes towards the same path as Skull Knight. But I think the duality between the two is that maybe Guys will succeed against causality unlike Griffith. How that is going to play out in the plot, I have NO idea since he is holding Casca captive, we know next to nothing about their son apart that he’s Griffith’s vessel and now the Kushans will wage a war that I don’t think they can win

    Ju-on April 26, 2024 12:41 pm
    ngl I might get bullied for this but I don't HATE Griffith..don't get me wrong I don't like him either and I don't support what he did/ will do but I don't hate him like the whole fandom does. he's an interesti... MarMars

    I would bully you, but I understand (⌒▽⌒)
    Griffith is a very well written character, and I respect what Miura did by making him an unforgettable antagonist. It's just like Johann from Monster, or Shinji Ikari from Eva. They're not likeable characters, but they are well written, and therefore, we want to see what they'll do next.
    (You don't need to read further, it's just a rant, I have no friends who let me talk about Berserk, so I got excited lol)
    My thing with Griffith is quite the opposite that dark seer pointed below. He struggled making the Band of the Hawk and creating loyalty from so many people, but I never felt like he tried to be happy together with them. He was thrown for a loop when Guts left (a wish caused by Griffith's own words), but his misstep was him to own. He f'ed up with Charlotte, and the thing that gets me is that it all felt more like an issue of control, rather than "I don't know what I'm gonna do without my bestie". And while I see he was desperate due to being tortured useless, and how he hated the idea of being a burden to Guts and Caska, hence, sacrificing everything to be able to get his dream again, he betrayed the shit out of everyone who helped him get there in first place. He was not only willing to sacrifice all the people with whom he wouldn't have done shit without, he picked on Caska in front of Guts to prove he had his control back, his control of Caska and Guts, by hatred then. And now he has a new band of badass apostles, which obey him, and he's living his dream. Personally, the egotistical desperation to make his dream come true that drove Griffith is what makes him so unlikeable to me. Although I see why his complexity attracts so many people. I just don't fully trust these people ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ (jk)

    artlover32 April 26, 2024 2:07 pm

    Griffith should be tortured and suffer for eternity.

    dark seer April 26, 2024 2:26 pm
    Griffith should be tortured and suffer for eternity. artlover32

    ~playboi~ April 26, 2024 3:40 pm

    I don’t think they can be on good terms. Looking at everything he has done to his own friends and more, it’s reasonable to want to see him dead

    MarMars April 27, 2024 4:14 am
    i agree i don't hate him i always thought he went through hell and when he started cherising guts more than his dreams he snapped when guts left him. Even when he came back to griffith he wanted to leave with c... dark seer

    yea, people who just hate him bc he's "evil: don't get the point muira is trying to put across, this isn't shonen its seinen for a reason. everything is more complicated than a simple good and bad character. but ig its hard for people to understand that

    MarMars April 27, 2024 4:28 am
    I would bully you, but I understand (⌒▽⌒)Griffith is a very well written character, and I respect what Miura did by making him an unforgettable antagonist. It's just like Johann from Monster, or Shinji Ik... Ju-on

    What I think most people forget is that (and Im skipping alot of other important details before hand) is that when the 4 gods (kinda forgot their names..) came to ask him to join he wasn't saying yes to them. its a detail that most people miss but he didn't want it to happen but then the godhand used a manipulation tactic which made him make that choice by showing him the vision and telling him this is all the lives you took own up to it or whatever. the thing is, this feeling of "all these people died for you you must finish your dream" is something he felt before but it was buried so deep but the godhand found a way to bring it out of him. also since he was at such a low point in his life (being tortured) and even after he was saved alot of his boundaries were constantly being crossed making him question his whole morality and everything he lived by. he really felt like shit (hence why he was planning on running away with the carriage)


    anyways Idk if what I said made sense but yea

    AAAHH I HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY BUT I"LL STOP T-T ALSO DONT GET ME WRONG IM NOT DEFENDING HIS ACTIONS ( everything after he said yes to the godhand..)

    ALSO PLS TRYST ME ToT IM JUST BAD AT HATING CHARACTERS IDK WHY I ALWAYS JUST FIND REASONS NOT TO HATE THEM.. (I might dislike them a little but not HATE)

    MarMars April 27, 2024 4:34 am
    I would bully you, but I understand (⌒▽⌒)Griffith is a very well written character, and I respect what Miura did by making him an unforgettable antagonist. It's just like Johann from Monster, or Shinji Ik... Ju-on

    replying twice cause I just wanted to make one thing clear is that the only action that I wanna defend is him saying yes the godhand for the sacrifice, everything else like r--- casca is outrageous and he did it completely out of his own will with no one telling things or being manipulated. (its so late rn and im so sleepy im completely babbaling rn i hope my shit makes sense-)

    MarMars April 27, 2024 4:36 am
    I don’t think they can be on good terms. Looking at everything he has done to his own friends and more, it’s reasonable to want to see him dead ~playboi~

    yea, that wouldn't make sense and it would be bad writing. me personally I don't want that to happen because none of them would want that..probably griffith will die..all I know is that muira said the ending will be happy.

    wtfishapping April 29, 2024 7:29 pm
    i agree i don't hate him i always thought he went through hell and when he started cherising guts more than his dreams he snapped when guts left him. Even when he came back to griffith he wanted to leave with c... dark seer

    ew nga

    dark seer April 30, 2024 2:46 pm
    ew nga wtfishapping

    sry

    wtfishapping April 30, 2024 9:55 pm
    sry dark seer

    you should be