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Rant

awwi May 8, 2024 9:52 pm

This is going to be long but I'm so frustrated with this story, I just have to write it down.

-The sub's character is extremely inconsistent. We saw him freaking out in the last two chapters because him wearing a long trench coat with no visible pants underneath could ruin his life. Because maybe somebody checks their dash cam for no reason and then thinks that what he's wearing is weird because the weather's not right for this kind of outfit and then he posts it on social media and then everybody concludes that he must be a pervert and they find out who he is and then his life is ruined.
If he had been portrayed as a fearful, cautious character up until that point I could've believed his reaction but he has been portrayed as the exact opposite of that.
This is the same character who *intentionally* provoked a guy into raping him, then had an affair with that guy, who later also turned into a stalker and when he dumped him, the stalker rapist made such a big scene at his apartment that the neighbours called the police. Also, he really wanted to go into a shady room with a guy from a dating app and almost got gang raped because of it. Did any of this phase him? No not at all. When his violent stalker rapist showed up at his apartment he was just annoyed and after the attempted gang rape his first reaction was to get horny then mad and then horny again (because he got choked by a stranger).

-They have zero chemistry. I can't be the only one who thinks that watching somebody being constantly annoyed and mad at their partner isn't hot. I don't understand why this trope is so popular. Why is it so difficult for so many authors to write a sex scene in which both of them enjoy themselves?

-The safe word here is starting to feel as if the author only established it because it would give her a free pass to write the usual rapey stuff. It was already shown that the sub doesn't want to use it because he's too afraid the dom might drop him. The dom also realized that the play was way too much for the sub but that he still didn't use the safe word. At this point he should've made it clear that if the sub refuses to use the safe word, the relationship has to end. Instead he continued with the reward, which is not just irresponsible, it's abusive. What we saw this chapter was just straight up emotional abuse. A safe word only ensures consent when it's actually used.

It's still possible that those things get addressed later on so I might give it a few more chapters but right now it looks more like this will be just another disappointing BDSM webtoon.

Responses
    S-J-M May 8, 2024 10:40 pm

    So... You don't seem to understand what you're talking about. The part about the inconsistent brat sub is true, but...

    Just because you don't understand how it works, it doesn't mean it's abusive. Literally nothing was done against the bottoms will or without his consent, and the Dom stopped when he didn't even safeword because he knew he wouldn't say it even if he wanted to. Calling that abusive is actually hilarious

    "he should've made it clear that if the sub refuses to use the safe word, the relationship has to end"

    You thinking a relationship HAS to END if you safeword is what's abusive. Subs should be praised for safe wording. Ending the relationship as punishment is fucked up and abusive. Of course people like you are disappointed with healthy bdsm apparently lol Giving him a reward after he knew he wanted to safeword is reassuring him that they DON'T have to end, that it is SAFE to safeword.

    S-J-M May 8, 2024 10:42 pm

    **I realize you meant if he doesn't say it that it has to end, but expecting that right out of the gate in a new relationship is crazy. Especially with a sub who has sub frenzy and seemingly no limits.

    awwi May 8, 2024 11:20 pm
    **I realize you meant if he doesn't say it that it has to end, but expecting that right out of the gate in a new relationship is crazy. Especially with a sub who has sub frenzy and seemingly no limits. S-J-M

    This is why he has to teach him to use the safe word. Right now he doesn't do this at all. He realized that he didn't use it despite the fact that he was extremely shaken and uncomfortable with the situation and then just continued to give him a reward. I know the author probably didn't intend to portray the typical dynamic of an abusive relationship (tearing down your partner to build them up again) but that's what this chapter was.
    If you have a relationship with a sub with zero experience "we have a safe word, you just refuse to use it for some reason" shouldn't be an excuse to continue as if nothing was wrong, it should be a reason to either stop or at least take things very, very slowly so that the sub can learn about their limits and how to set them properly.

    bbyekai May 8, 2024 11:37 pm
    This is why he has to teach him to use the safe word. Right now he doesn't do this at all. He realized that he didn't use it despite the fact that he was extremely shaken and uncomfortable with the situation an... awwi

    Hmmm...I have mixed feelings about this. Cause in the front chapters the Dom clearly didn't want to be involved with a sub with zero experience. It was the sub that continued to insist on it. But, I do think the Dom should have played a more comforting role after getting the sub in the car, but the sub wasn't in the right to blame the dom either. The sub insisted in doing play despite not clearly knowing what it is.

    At this point, if the Dom only wants a sub with experience, they will stop the partnership. But idk whether this helps or damages the sub more.

    Maybe more will be revealed in the new chapters whether the Dom will educate him or how the sub feels about the situation. This is just my opinion/experience but subs will be pushed esp during scenes/plays and would be extremely uncomfortable because of inexperience but actually like it. We'll see.

    I feel like they need more time to communicate and meet in the middle. It is clear that the Dom isn't a "daddy" Dom though, he's more like a sadist Dom, so that might've played a part too. ( ̄∇ ̄")

    S-J-M May 8, 2024 11:54 pm
    This is why he has to teach him to use the safe word. Right now he doesn't do this at all. He realized that he didn't use it despite the fact that he was extremely shaken and uncomfortable with the situation an... awwi

    Sorry if I was over aggressive sounding in my other comments lol I agree that a relationship where a sub won't use a safeword need to end, for one thing. But I don't see anything wrong with the scene they had other than the sub not safewording. Considering how far they've gone before and such, and going from the fact the trenchcoat in public seems to be a common fetish in bdsm comics, it felt pretty tame actually. That's why I agree about the inconsistency of the sub too. I just can't see one lick of "emotional abuse" though. They need way better communication, but the sub doesn't seem the type to want to discuss things beforehand. He's so toxic he encouraged a rapist for a while after all, but this was too much? Idk, I think the Dom should have scolded him for not safewording when he needed too yes, but rewarding him anyway to me is actually healthy, like I mentioned. Hopefully it makes him feel safer safewording next time to feel like the Dom actually likes him. I'm hopeful because damn, healthy bdsm is almost impossible to find, and this sub may be toxic but at least he's not a VICTIM.

    Yaoifandom May 8, 2024 11:57 pm

    Their chemistry is really off, like yea the author might want to portray a cold and not so emotional Dom, but the Sub should still feel safe during play and being able to trust his Dom. Especially because he's a frigging newbie.

    The reward was kinda weird because of how the Dom kept demanding the Sub to admit how good he felt. Like bro leave that kinda talk for after the aftercare maybe, when your Sub is less shocked and shaky.

    I'm no expert in BDSM and Dom/Sub relationships, having my knowledge from short stories with what I believe as normal and healthy. But this is definitely no way a normal experienced Dom should treat the Sub after such a situation

    There's so much more I would point out but that's just nitpicking. I mean the author/artist probably worked hard on each chapter and I could only assume that the research wasn't done good enough

    awwi May 9, 2024 7:23 am
    Their chemistry is really off, like yea the author might want to portray a cold and not so emotional Dom, but the Sub should still feel safe during play and being able to trust his Dom. Especially because he's ... Yaoifandom

    Yeah, that part about the dom demanding the sub to admit that it felt good made me feel uncomfortable as well. I get that those kind of stories usually aren't written for people who are actually practicing BDSM (there aren't enough of us anyway) so it makes sense to not pay too much attention to accuracy but it's still frustrating.
    That being said, maybe the author will address those things later on since it's still pretty early in the story.

    awwi May 9, 2024 7:28 am
    Sorry if I was over aggressive sounding in my other comments lol I agree that a relationship where a sub won't use a safeword need to end, for one thing. But I don't see anything wrong with the scene they had o... S-J-M

    "Hopefully it makes him feel safer safewording next time to feel like the Dom actually likes him."
    I hope you're right, that would actually be a nice development.

    I don't mean that the dom was intentionally being abusive or that the author wanted to portray abuse. But this is such a common dynamic in abusive relationship that whenever I encounter it in a fictional setting I can't help but feel uncomfortable about it.

    awwi May 9, 2024 7:31 am
    Hmmm...I have mixed feelings about this. Cause in the front chapters the Dom clearly didn't want to be involved with a sub with zero experience. It was the sub that continued to insist on it. But, I do think th... bbyekai

    Yeah, there really needs to be more communication. But it's going to be a bit difficult for them to communicate properly if the dom keeps on refusing to stay in contact with him outside of their plays. They still have the aftercare scenes though, so I hope the author will use those for communication.