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Speaking of cognitive dissonance

Anoni Grrl February 8, 2017 1:24 am

Spoilerish discussion of Finder no Souen and what it may imply about Kurada's recent behavior.

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I've been thinking about how people find it hard to believe Asami would rape Aki after seeing what Kuroda went through, and it occurred to me that Kuroda is actually kind of cold when he rescues Aki from what could have become a brutal rape and murder. When I first read it, I just took it as part of their dynamic--Kuroda teases Aki and implies Aki isn't good enough, but rescues him because that's what Asami wants, and it's kind of his job (sort of), and because Kuroda isn't actually going to let Aki die, he just wants to give him some shit. But now I know that the scene, while not as brutal as his own experiences, had elements that might trigger some survivors. This does not seem to make Kuroda want to comfort Aki or treat him specially, though. Kuroda walks right past him and lets others take care of him. Do you think it's because Kuroda does not want to feel empathy, or because he wants to focus on work rather than any uncomfortable memories, or is he just over it and acting the way I first thought (implying Aki f*cked up and got caught, and therefore not worthy of talking to right then). I mean, if anyone would have been effected by empathy after events in Finder no Souen, wouldn't it be Kuroda?

Don't get me wrong. I still love Kuroda. Maybe he's just squishing down all his feelings on the topic to do his job.

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    Anonymous February 8, 2017 2:38 am

    Well given the fact that scene is pretty old and the novel wasnt written afterwards...im pretty sure it wasnt thought back then.
    You may see it as you like it :)

    Also i think the novel is not by yamane ayano...idk if she helped with the plot or just approved it

    Anonymous (from down below) February 8, 2017 4:08 am
    Well given the fact that scene is pretty old and the novel wasnt written afterwards...im pretty sure it wasnt thought back then.You may see it as you like it :)Also i think the novel is not by yamane ayano...id... @Anonymous

    The novel is not by Yamane Ayano. It's by Satoko Ai. But you raise a good point in the fact that we don't know how much input Yamane Ayano had on the book. It would be interesting to know how much of the book was her invention and how much Satoko Ai's. I'd also really like to know how familiar Satoko Ai is with the manga. If it was something she had already read and enjoyed or if this was just a contracted ghost-writing job for her.

    It doesn't seem on the surface that anyone stopped to consider how the plot of the novel impacted things like the scene Anoni Grrl mentions here. Or if they did, it would be interesting to know their thoughts.

    Anoni Grrl February 8, 2017 6:06 am
    Well given the fact that scene is pretty old and the novel wasnt written afterwards...im pretty sure it wasnt thought back then.You may see it as you like it :)Also i think the novel is not by yamane ayano...id... @Anonymous

    This is true-- (though being approved makes it "canon'), but if we reexamine Asami's actions in chapter one based on the novel, it makes sense to see Kuroda the same way. I'm sure there's some level of retcon, but that doesn't mean we can't think about it. :)

    Anon who read the novel February 8, 2017 1:06 pm

    There's one thing I remember from the novel that could be related. In the modern day part Asami thinks how Kuroda's eyes seem to be looking more like his these days. I wasn't sure how to interpret that. Maybe he's falling into Asami's world too. But he also said there's a line drawn between them and neither crosses it.

    Anoni Grrl February 8, 2017 2:14 pm
    There's one thing I remember from the novel that could be related. In the modern day part Asami thinks how Kuroda's eyes seem to be looking more like his these days. I wasn't sure how to interpret that. Maybe ... @Anon who read the novel

    Thanks AWRtN. It makes sense that Kuroda's job makes him more jaded over time (but not exactly like Asami, who kills). I think if we compare Kuroda pressuring a suspect for information (you will be changed with treason) to teen Asami's slicing a skinhead's face, we can see a sort of spectrum where Asami is much more extreme.

    Anoni Grrl February 8, 2017 2:42 pm
    The novel is not by Yamane Ayano. It's by Satoko Ai. But you raise a good point in the fact that we don't know how much input Yamane Ayano had on the book. It would be interesting to know how much of the book w... @Anonymous (from down below)

    Thanks Aussie Anon (Down Under, down below--it's a bad joke). As a side note, I could have sworn I read that YA outlined the novel, SA wrote it, and YA approved it. I can't find my source now, though. I take it as part of the story, just like the previous novel.

    I don't know that SA read everything the way a fan would, but I would hope she would read before writing the characters. Wouldn't that be part of how your writing process? So, (purely guessing) the writer might have some awareness of recent scenes as she provides new information about the past. It may be doubtful she meant it to impact certain scenes too directly, but in changing the shape of the story, it affects some interpretations of those parts. Does that make sense?

    For example, in the manga, characters believed Tao was an orphan (which is true) and YA's first intent was probably that he be just any orphan. But the previous novel revealed Tao is Fei's nephew, and now we know that the characters (and the reader) didn't have all the facts. It may not have been planned, but this development enriches the story rather than conflicting with it. It makes sense--and keeping such information secret makes sense. It develops the characters and ties things together in a new way.

    Or maybe I just think that because I like developing the story in my head. (⌒▽⌒)

    Anonymous February 8, 2017 5:13 pm
    Thanks Aussie Anon (Down Under, down below--it's a bad joke). As a side note, I could have sworn I read that YA outlined the novel, SA wrote it, and YA approved it. I can't find my source now, though. I take it... Anoni Grrl

    Yup, Satoko Ai is apparently a pretty big fan of the manga. At least she was when writing the Feilong novel. ^^

    LadyLigeia February 8, 2017 5:36 pm
    Thanks Aussie Anon (Down Under, down below--it's a bad joke). As a side note, I could have sworn I read that YA outlined the novel, SA wrote it, and YA approved it. I can't find my source now, though. I take it... Anoni Grrl

    I'm another fan who likes developing the story in my head. ^_^