Lol most of them remind me mothers who complain about violent video games
"It's just fiction" ruins it, imo. I will let little things off because of fiction, but not all things. I think if we don't use real world standards to fiction then we're dismissing fiction. Writing is supposed to insight conversation and differing opinions.
Additionally, if someone can say, "OMG THAT GIRL IS A BITCH SHE NEEDS TO DIE" then I don't see why I can't say, "Wtf, that dude just raped somebody. He shouldn't end up with the MC."
"It's just fiction" ruins it, imo. I will let little things off because of fiction, but not all things. I think if we don't use real world standards to fiction then we're dismissing fiction. Writing is supposed to insight conversation and differing opinions.
Additionally, if someone can say, "OMG THAT GIRL IS A BITCH SHE NEEDS TO DIE" then I don't see why I can't say, "Wtf, that dude just raped somebody. He shouldn't end up with the MC."
Yeah, don't compare me to that. Those mothers are complaining that their young children are being exposed to it. There's a difference between my 20-year-old ass and an 8-year-old watching someone get their head blown off.
Well they have age limits for a reason and please don't include rape into it rape is a special kind of evil even I don't like how they romanticize it.I am talking about people who read manga like killing stalking and complain about murders after reading it I said violence not rape.
Yeah, I get what you mean about the age limit. I just mean that is there reasoning.
I apologize, as rape is an act of violence I was confused. I'm not sure what you mean by the KS example? You mean people are complaining that Sangwoo is murdering people?
*their reasoning
Yes I meant those people not rape English is not my main language sometimes I make mistakes sorry about that
Well I guess it makes sense. I think Sangwoo is a terrible person for murdering. Isn't that what the author wants you to think?
I think he is not sane at all and that is what makes KS so interesting for me. There are not many mangas with villain main characters and I like stories with gray morality
I am actually a fit scared to finished reading that one i am stuck on chapter 3. I have read way worse novel and enjoyed them very much which is why my friend recommend it to me but see it drawn out thats a different ball park. if i can get over that fact i will most likely enjoy it
I don't think the same people who say you need to take a chill pill it's fiction also say that an annoying girl needs to die because she's cockblocking a character.
In addition, yaoi is wet dream fantasy material, I don't know if you didn't get the memo or what. People are actually into that shit when they write them down in stories. So in my HONEST opinion, when a fan of a mangaka is judging their choices on what is ok and what is not ok to do with their plot and characters then they are just plain disrespectful and don't get her/him. It's different to have someone feel passionate about a story and a whole other thing to have them go around saying something is "sick" or "this shouldn't be like this".
People are into all kinds of shit, I don't think any serious (adult - it's yaoi you are SUPPOSED to be over 18 just saying) human being thinks that if Maya rapes Nemugasa it's totally fine if they did that as well irl.
Ai No Kusabi, Viewfinder, Yatteraneese, Haru wo Daite Ita, Tyrant Falls In Love, Ze, Kawaii Akuma, Kuroneko Kareshi, Porno Superstar, Okane Ga Nai, El Calor, to name just a few classics and/or really popular works on top of my head that make light of sexual harassment, assault or full blown rape.
What USED to be amazing about yaoi is how unashamed it was and how it's fandom was very honest about their liking it, no matter how obscene or weird or rapey or whatever it was. Now suddenly we have all these easily offended people who think that just because someone made a yaoi with rape in it people will connect it to reality. IT'S YAOI. It's straight-like guys doing the buttsex with other straight-like guys, because no one cares because we don't work with morals BECAUSE IT'S YAOI.
it's not like it's my cup of tea, sometimes I find it pretty annoying, I do tend to avoid it myself sometimes, but when people say things like "oh no IT'S RAPE! NOT RAPE IN EROTIC FICTION, OH THE HORROR" then I just feel like the new generation of the fandom has betrayed the older ones and the mangaka they are supporting. And not just with rape but with anything unconventional that people tend to complain about.
ok sorry for the rant this topic gets me fired up (￣∇￣") maybe I need a chill pill....
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I think it depends. I wouldn't read "My Boss Is a Tyrant" because I know it starts off with rape and that's something that I wouldn't like. I'm not going to bother writing about how it makes me mad that he drugged and raped someone and that therefore it is a terrible story (not saying it is; hopefully you know what I mean). On the other hand, if I'm reading something like Killing Stalking and I enjoy the story, if I say that Sangwoo is a fucking piece of shit for being a rapist (among other things, lol), then that's another thing. Also applies to whether or not rape plays a role in the story. I mean, if it's poorly executed I might mention it, but otherwise no. If it plays a huge role in the story, yeah I might bitch about it because I feel it's something the author is welcoming us to bitch about, lol.
I mean, I definitely don't complain about it anymore since I've realized it's a norm and that my bitching will accomplish nothing (lol), but if someone says "that's rape" and I agree then I'll back them up if someone disagrees. Idk why. Boredom, lol.
lol I think it's more than fine if someone bitches about characters but many people express themselves in a way when they don't like something these days that I feel criticize the author's/artist's choices and in that way betray the unashamed and unabashed attitude yaoi culture started with. I bitch about shit myself of course hahah, I just don't take it personal or anything.
Also I do have a personal feeling about this because I coincidentally have a rape fetish irl (among other kinky preferences) so when people say fiction with rape is wrong and sick it hits me at the wrong nerves. oh well, boredom, lol ╮(￣▽￣)╭
In that case I can definitely see why it would bother you. Rape IS wrong, and I know you know that. Having a rape fantasies and getting raped or going out and raping someone are very different. You know that. So I guess you just have to remember that they're condemning the act and not you. I'm sorry, that must be hard. Some people just have different preferences. So long as it's all healthy and consensual then in the next it's fine. Don't let anyone make you feel bad about it. Sexuality is such a broad spectrum, and we can't help what we're attracted to. In some cases the object of our attraction is bad, in which case we just have to resist those urges (necrophilia, pedophilia, beastiality, etc.)
Why do people bring real life situation into fantasy and fiction? manga is a fiction it is not made to fit in the bubble of everyone's reality. If there is a situation you don't like in the manga because it doesn't fit in your reality just don't read it instead of trolling it. It is distraction of those of us who want to read the manga and the comment about the manga and what each people think is morally wrong or is a crime if it happens in real life. If you want to read something that will always fit in the realm of reality read a non-fiction. There are some pretty good one out there.