EVERYBODY'S TAKING THIS TOO SERIOUSLY... BUT YAAAASSS HIKARUHARUKI
I don't see your logic behind this. This isn't one of those rape = love stories.
Well he loves him in his own pschycotic way which is not good for haruki because that poisonous love that hikaru have is taking haruki's soul and now haruki is only an empty shell who feels nothing .And that kind of love is scary
It's fine, we all have our own opinion. But since alot of you shows your support to the other ship, I was thinking to show mine too ^__^ let's not judge Hikaru too much. Lol I'm really taking this srsly. He's still young. I hope sensei will pave a way for Hikaru to be open minded.
Yes we all have our own opinions but I didn't see the logic behind yours. Hikaru is a young rapist. He is raping Haruki and it's not in the pleasant sexy/cutesy "he raped me but it felt so good" type of way that rape is presented in most yaoi. The rape is traumatic and Haruki doesn't even care for him as a brother at this point. Haruki wants Hikaru out of his life for good. Hikaru was delusional in believing Haruki loved him to that extent. Now Hikaru knows Haruki hates him but refuses to let Haruki go. This is a very toxic one-sided relationship. Hanasuba failed to understand Haruki when he needed him most but also felt very guilty afterwards. Hikaru has failed to understand Haruki too many times to count and even when feeling guilty he decides to go back and rape Haruki.
Is what you're saying is that HikaruxHaruki is better than HarukixHanasuba because Hikaru has not left Haruki alone despite the fact that Hikaru being there is the direct source of Haruki's distress? Whereas Hanasuba left Haruki? So constantly being tormented by Hikaru is a better "relationship" outcome than the potentially temporary abandonment by Hanasuba?
You can ship whoever you want but there won't be much support from others when the evidence in the manga is strongly against it.
This isn't like people arguing whether or not Takano raped Ritsu in Sekaiichi Hatsukoi. Debate it all you want, but in the end it's not significant to the plot. There's no need to dwell over it or take it seriously. This manga is VERY different because trauma caused by rape is one of the driving elements of this story. No one is taking it "too seriously". If you ask me, you're not taking it seriously enough.
Maybe yes, its not the same with other rape story that ended up happily ever after. And we all see different sides. I can all see your point. There's no need to be so hyped kkk~ I'm willing to understand both sides. Afterall my topic is not fully pro Hikaru, like I said 'it sounds weird' so even I, myself got confused too on how I did view this manga, but still I want them to reconcile. That's why I said Hikaru should learn to regret and stop being so pushy too, cause he looks like an obsess sex maniac. And ofc, I'm one of thoses bishes who likes stories that goes "who's the first, should be the last and forever too", that's why I want Hikaru×Haruki. I might not view this manga too maturely as what you did but I will still keep my ship (￣∇￣") and I want Haruki to be happy too, cause I also gets stress when one of the chara are broken.
Not really "hyped" but I think the subject matter of this manga is too mature for you. They have passed the point of reconcile. Haruki hates Hikaru and wants nothing to do with him. I don't understand how you don't see that when you said yourself you were taking the manga seriously. There will be a broken Haruki or a broken Hikaru, it may even end with both broken. This manga highlights the realistic trauma and tragedy of rape.There is no win-win happy ending in that. There's plenty of unrealistic yaoi that dilute or exclude the trauma of rape. I'd suggest you read one of those for your happy ending between a rapist and their victim. This one will make you stressed as rape is a very mature topic.
No you're wrong, I did take this seriously. It just that we want different couples. Lol I get that you're in the justice side while on the psychopath side. We only have one in common, that is for Haruki-san to be happy. I want him to end up with Hikaru because he's the one tormented Haruki, so he must pay for that. Oh my god! I'm done with this
Well it's basically been confirmed that they won't end up together, so good luck with that, lol.
Ikr, I kinda feel that too. Just like what I said, I was hoping. There's no need for you to be sarcastic here, cause you just sound one with that goodluck of yours. If you can't accept my ship then FINE?? I'm not pushing it anyway.
Honestly I couldn't care less if Haruki did not end up with Hanabusa. I just don't want to see him being trapped by Hikaru and raped for the rest of his miserable life, which is what would happen if he stayed with Hikaru. I'm on the logical and common sense side. "Justice" for me would be Hikaru dying a horrible death by the hands of Haruki but I know that's not going to happen. It is actually cannon that Haruki and Hikaru do not end up together with a happy ending. Look here http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/kokoro_o_korosu_houhou/mf/5f048e133e52000936101e4bb2bbffc0_chapter-1/pg-3/ we see look into the future. Haruki blaming Hikaru for something, Hikaru is not happy, Haruki is not happy, like I said "no win-win happy ending in that".
My sardonic comment in no way implied that I didn't approve of your ship. I don't, since it's completely unhealthy, but I respect your right to your pinion. I don't see why you're so offended by a minor witticism.
you want haruki to be happy with hikaru?because he is the one who tormented haruki so he should pay up for it by being with haruki ? hah well who is the one paying here i wonder ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
of course.. why should we...??? real life is already damned and stressing me enough.. got here to read and appreciate the genre i liked and enjoyed before when im just a free student.. now working adult sucks so much..
do i have to be stressed and bothered and affected by these mangas,too....?????
does me not looking at it as a sympathetic reader have to be told off by you????
seriously... if i came to stress my self then i will not read it and just sleep.. come on.. !!!
i read, enjoy, appreciate... just like art.. i do not want to be told by others to take this seriously and cry for the victim and shout justice...!!!
not here for that, dude!!
never here to cry with the characters..!!
am i cold?? ofc not, im just not as emotionally-invested since i know what im reading before i read them...
SHOULDN'T BE LECTURED BY "NOT TAKING IT SERIOUSLY".... JUST LIKE I DO NOT LECTURE THOSE THAT DO...
The other party said we were taking it too seriously. I said they weren't taking it seriously. Don't get mad because I chose to use their words. I completely disagree with you. I don't know why you're reading something like this if you're not going to take it seriously. This is the opinion of myself and many others. No need to get your panties in a knot.
Just because we don't care doesn't mean we don't know the severity of certain issues. This is just a fiction, a world that the author creates. There's no need to fight about this and mock others who enjoy the drama. The original problem here is that YOU guys are so easily triggered. If you cannot take rape then I advise you to stop reading this manga right now. Your mind is not mature enough to keep up with the contents. And bitching about the younger brother? God. If it isn't for his existence in this manga, I'm sure as hell the story is nothing but a lump of boring shit.
Did I say you were pro-rape? No, I did not.
I never said I was "triggered". I said I disagreed. Some things in fiction are meant to be taken seriously. I can "take" rape or I wouldn't be reading this story in the first place. If you're just brushing everything off in this story and don't care to analyze it then I could just as easily argue that you're being immature.
Also, "bitching" about a character is nothing new. I've "bitched" about plenty of characters, even ones key to the story. The younger brother is a terrible person. If we're "bitching" about it then t hat means the mangaka is doing her job well.
I'm not looking to get into an argument. I just hate that all you people are saying that we're sensitive, easily "triggered" SJWs.
Sounds weird but I like Haruki to end up with Hikaru than his senpai. Although he raped him, atleast he love him and stay. Not totally stay, because he thought that would make Haruki better if he leaves him alone not knowing that he was already broken. But atleast, he go back to Haruki. Just please learn to regret a little Hikaru bby, and dont be too pushy.(⌒▽⌒)