I find it so hilarious how TJ stans claim all Jo and Ian do is have sex. Like they cant be serious. Its so hypocritical. All Ian and TJ did was have sex..didn't they have sex when it was someone's funeral..Weirdos!!!!
I also think these TJ stans need to understand, you can't compare 19 years to a couple of months? but that doesnt mean 19 years makes a better relationship. People date for 10 years break up and then marry people they dated for 2 months and stay married for years..This is why I say the duration of a relationship does not equate to the quality of it..
Ian and Jo are creating their relationship. They are building something. you cant compare something being built to something thats already built
Thank you. They also complain about Jo’s SA and I also hate what he did, but they’re hypocrites for stanning TJ while claiming to dislike Jo because of the SA and manipulation as if TJ never did those.
Jo changing as a character is part of the story and that’s good writing. Just like how TJ was before and still kinda is, he and Ian are in the middle of growth. And Jo is getting to the “middle of growth” where he needs to redeem himself.
If TJ has redemption chance, so does Jo and Ian. I hate how TJ stans slut shame Ian as if he’s not single and some even claimed he’s dating TJ.
You have good points and phrases.
I find TJ stans hypocritical, They felt uncomfortable with Jo finishing on Ians face while he passed out. Okay fair? he shouldn't have done that I dont condone it, but if you look at the parrells of chapter 12 and 52. Ian asked TJ in chapter 52 to do it until he passes out and TJ couldnt whereas Jo did do it. It was very symbolic. Jo can give Ian what he wants and TJ cant.
I cant remember the chapter but when TJ and Ian were doing it in the car and Ian said its too deep, why did none of the TJ stans feel uncomfortable or claim SA when TJ shoved his dick back in Ian saying "you cant just take it out' They just said of its so hot when TJIAN do it..Im sorry but if someone is telling you its too deep and shove it back in without making sure they are comfortable is not a form of SA as well? or is it excusable because they've known each other for a long time. So if Jo knew Ian for 19 years and came on his face would these stans condone it??? Make it make sense.
What was the point of the Jo stans screenshots when they were not even petty or causing drama when they were just replying under a tweet of someone getting a anonymous ask by a tj stans who was trying causing a drama.
Also Jo isn't manipulative, yet and hopefully never, he took an opportunity but that doesn't mean he's manipulating Ian... also him becoming obsessive isn't affecting his character, that IS his character, his obsession will show us how he'll take his route differently maybe better than what tj ever done.
I find it petty but I don’t care, I just wanted to put it there so I don’t look like I’m being biased. Can’t say nothing without people calling me out a hypocrite.
Jo is kinda manipulative for the broken finger thing scene, but I also don’t care because the same people who hate him Stan a manipulator.

Mangago won’t let me post it fully, so here I made a document writing of my thoughts.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BYpDxGAvW34RExHFo9ydxtle2-VFUitn1YPwGSej8Q/edit