Spent good 20 mins gathering evidence and I really hope this shuts up people who say that this isnt anorexia
Thank you for writing so much in an attempt to clarify the story and the eating disorder in question :) I wanted to write a post but I couldn’t think of anything decent to say to readers who are misinforming others. In regards to the story, I only want to be clear that Yu Geon *never* has bulimia nervosa.
The image you attached shows snippets of his larger self binging and purging; however, he must maintain above certain BMI for three consecutive months to be diagnosed as having bulimia nervosa. If he falls under a certain BMI in under three months, but continues to binge and purge, then he is considered to have had a combination of two eating disorders (binge eating and purging) which has developed into his current condition—anorexia nervosa.
Just for the record, he never had bulimia or bulimia of low frequency/limited duration because he never met the criteria.
*not a doctor, just someone who does the necessary research, but lemme know if I’m wrong, I’ll gladly stand to be corrected.
I didn't go into detail but I believe you are correct about Yu-Geom never being Bulimic. Thank you for explaining it. I was just trying to give basis to why the bulimic syndrome would even be mentioned here. But thank you for clarifying it which further prove that Yu-Geom is Anorexic and no way he is Bulimic. :) People like you give me hope.
I also updated my comment accordingly with your facts with credits of course :)
Weight is not the main criteria for both anorexia and bullimia. The main criteria for anorexia is not the low weight; but it is the 'fear' of gain weight. Therefore, an expert would give a check on criterion a, which shortly put 'fear of weight gain that leads to low body weight, on the basis of the existence of the fear first, not the weight. Weight plays a role only on the further specification on which type the AN is, but it isn't the main criteria of the disorder. Secondly, someone underweight can still have bullimia. Weight is never a main criteria in bullimia too. For example, someone who is naturally skinny and happen to binge and purge often without the abnormal fear of weight-gain is bullimic. And in the manga's case, the character is still possible to be bullimic if he binge often because he likes food, purge to compensate, then, because of this unhealthy pattern, develop fear of weight gain (anorexia). This is the specific situation where a person can be diagnosed with both BN and AN. So the appearance of AN binge/purge type doesn't always cancel out BN, and the weight is something notable for diagnostic purposes, but the underlying psychological dynamic should be seen first.
*a psychology student whose DSM-V suffers from mistreatment everyday (have only faced 1 real-life eating disorder case)
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS CLARIFICATION. All the comments are pissing me off about how it's bulimia when it is NOT, so i was so happy to find this comment here
Weight might not be the main criteria for AN and B, we are getting out of track here. It's all about the manga/manhwa at the end of the day, I just wanted to provide a difference (even though it is quite difficult when it comes to these syndromes) of symptoms between AN and B without getting into details after all this isn't a discussion in an academic page.
It is still chapter 1, my 'evidence' is based on what is available which is the symptoms(observable factors) however, who knows the mangaka would also touch upon the 'fear of weight gain' (psychological factors) too,
On the other hand, thank you for enlightening us all about the psychological side (or the fear factor) of these disorders which I believe all of us who commented on this manga have forgotten. I sure will look out whether the mangaka will skillfully incorporate it into the manga/manhwa too.
Your most welcome, I hope more people will see this topic instead of those misleading ones.
Oh, no, no. People like YOU give me hope ^_^
It's 3 am here, why must you post something for which I have a rebuttal? (〜￣△￣)〜
I dun care about the definition anymore, but I have a response to your comment about the story. I think I'll just leave any discussion about the story until the manhwa is completely uploaded~
Night!
Guys its Anorexia so stop with the drama now lemme tell you why its Anorexia.
But firstly, it's a work of fiction not for educational purposes, to dig deep into this is an insult to the author who from this one chapter as we can see has demonstrated beautiful art and storytelling skills. Why does everyone keep forgetting manga/manhwa is a work of fiction.
Here is a bit of research on the DISORDERS and my thoughts as an undergraduate student who did a lot of research on these topics. There will be evidence to support my claims ;).
Seriously, please get your facts right before you throw a tantrum and discredit the translators or the author because it is demeaning and discouraging for them.
Now as a fresh BS(Conc. BIO) undergraduate and new med student who did an entire course on Human Disorders I think I can help a bit to clear this up but I do highly recommend to at least do your research also because Eating Disorders are very confusing as they are very difficult to diagnose as their symptoms are very common as you can see the fuss over Bulimia and Anorexia.
Now for the 101 on why people are arguing whether this is Bulimia or Anorexia Nervosa. (I will try to keep the jargon minimum)
Anorexia is seeing oneself as overweight when in reality they are thin/underweight so they tend to restrain their intake of food or vomit whatever they eat, or take laxatives. On the other hand, Bulimia is 'binge eating and then purging' which is you eat a lot at once and vomit(or take laxatives) but you can also be still overweight/average weight BUT NOT UNDERWEIGHT. To keep it simple "The main difference between diagnoses is that Anorexia Nervosa is a syndrome of self-starvation involving significant weight loss of 15 percent or more of ideal body weight, whereas patients with bulimia nervosa are, by definition, at normal weight or above."
Now to understand why the translators or mangaka decided to use the term Anorexia.
Firstly, the time we saw Yu Geon 'binge-eating and purging' was here http://iweb6.mangapicgallery.com/imgfiles/thank_you_for_the_meal/1/026.png these are symptoms of BULIMIA because the significant evidence that I am using is he was over-weight and vomiting. (But I could be wrong since I am not a doctor.)
Next time we see Yu Geon is once again 'binge-eating' the meat grilled by his favorite Chef/Seonbae and then vomiting again here http://iweb6.mangapicgallery.com/imgfiles/thank_you_for_the_meal/1/045.png where Yu-Geon is thin and trying to still vomit hence we can safely say he went from being Bulimic to Anorexic.
So, I am sure this is why they are using only Anorexia because they are talking about his present condition which we can see in several places shows how underweight he is;
Evidence 1: http://iweb6.mangapicgallery.com/imgfiles/thank_you_for_the_meal/1/032.png
Evidence 2:
http://iweb6.mangapicgallery.com/imgfiles/thank_you_for_the_meal/1/019.png
Evidence 3:
http://iweb6.mangapicgallery.com/imgfiles/thank_you_for_the_meal/1/027.png
I would like to also add his 'binge-eating' we saw of meat could because they were cooked by his Seonbae whose cooking his adored *trying to explain why he tried to binge when clearly he is trying to prevent weight gain which was after all the start of his eating disorder because his gf dumped him cause he was too fat*
These disorders are also psychological and very dangerous, they aren't something that you can simply say "oh, stop eating a lot or stop vomiting." I understand why people are very annoyed if they believe that this is wrongly interpreted.
UPDATE: A good commenter of facts, Marrow, have commented below that Yu-Geom never showed symptoms of Bulimia which with her/his facts proves that it is correct and further proves that it is indeed Anorexia.
Disclaimer: This is just from what I understood, I could be wrong but I would like to once again remind you this is a work of fiction and just chapter 1 so don't be so judgmental and it rare such a real life disorder which is mostly psychological is a topic in Yaoi manga so let's see how it goes, give it chance.
Honestly, throwing a tantrum over discrepancies in a manhwa is not worth writing a long essay with all that evidence but it pissed me off because I have seen translators stopping their translations because some idiotic commentators tried to be overly realistic or be dramatic about their grammar or English and hence discouraged the translators, the authors, and any new audience from picking up the manga/manhwa. Shut up and move along if you don't like the manga but that doesn't mean you have to mislead the rest.