Forgive this non constructive comment, i kinfa got pissed.
But that Guy friend needs his head checked as well as going back to school to learn the meaning of consent. Like wtf does the body automatic physiological reaction have to do with consent. Please tell me it was a joke and he doesn't go around with that sort of rapey mentality.
It is simple, if anyone says no and truly does not want to have sex then it is rape. It is also rape if you get permission awhile they are drunk or unable to make a decision. Even if sex feels good does not mean it is consensual sex therefore rape. Please convince your friend to rethink on what he said. Hope this helps!
My opinion is that, it is a rape in every case the person dont want to have sex, yet he/she is doing it by force. If raper manage to find a point where the person feel good, doesnt mean that he/she still want the specific raper to make it feel good. He/she must be disgust after this and have no good memory.
Raper: I am only using this word to refer to the man who does it to the other.
Person , he , she is the second person.
even if it feels good physically doesn't mean it is the same mentally. you can force yourself on someone, made their bodies feel good, but if in their mind they didn't want it, they would feel like their bodies are betraying them and that is an even more horrible feelings... at least that's what I would guess from hearing and reading about this subject. Just ask for consent please. And don't think you yourself know what best. keep on learning and asking about these type of situation so as to keep being informed and not hurt people. And also, I appreciate the fact that your friend want public opinion rather than just hang onto his belief.
Show him this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbei5JGiT8
It's short and makes total sense. The cup of tea may taste good, but if they didn't want it in the first place don't give it to them.
qn: So your friend said it's good for who? the one being raped or the one who is doing the raping? coz clearly your friend haven't been raped... yeah as everyone says, there is no consent for the sexual act... Ask the friend imagine being rape. then asked... does it feel good? Fetish and actual events are different.
As everybody said sex with no consent is rape and if your dear friends still doesnt get it ask him. If he had a forced sex with a guy or a woman doesnt matter, would you still call it sex even though your body clearly shows affection but your mind doesnt. Would you still call it sex if you're drunk or unconcious and a person is using your body that's yours to have sex? I realy hope that your friend changes his mind.
Rape = no consent.
Thus, feeling good doesn't make it not rape if there is still no consent.
(oh and btw since your friend seems dumb enough to think that you should also tell him that, yes, a woman can get pregnant because of a rape, and it does not mean she gave her consent to the rapist)
(and men and women can rape and be raped, what you call it doesn't depend on gender) ("you" is not you specifically ^^)
Of course it is rape, even if it feels good. Arousal during rape is actually pretty common, a nature's subconscious response if you will. Why? Because it's the last way a poor raped women's body can protect itself during an act - by producing a "lube" down there so she gets injured as little as possible. As if that is not sad enough, women that "enjoyed" it will probably be emotionally scarred the most because she will blame herself more and feel guilty because she got wet, even though it wasn't her will.
Right? It's being so low key savage lol
Definitely should be played in all high schools and colleges.
This is what my guy friend said "it''s not rape if it feels good" and we were on the topic of gangrape. And my other two friends with me had a debate with him about how they don't think that's true and my guy friend wants public opinion.
If you don't want to answer it's fine. If you think this is childish it's fine. Thank you for your undivided attention and for your opinions.