Just label me deceased after this one. But on a side note, I almost find it humorous the...

Manga is getting a good response it is realistic no body is denying it . it's the seme who is getting bad response and he deserves it tbh

I didn't mean it was getting a bad response. I'm just saying the reactions to the manga are funny given how often I see people wanting realistic stories on other (happy) manga. Yeah the guy messed up, but people forget how big societal pressure is, especially in Japan.

Oh,alright. Well it's not like people forget about societal pressure well I can't say about other but I am from India and I can understand what societel pressure is. But if I see two partner where one is standing his head high and willing to give his all in a same sex relationship instead being in a society where homosexuality is a taboo where other is coward enough to leave the person because of society I will get angry and disgusted by him even if I know about the societal pressure because he acted cowardly and left his partner all alone because of his cowardness .it's not fair for the other partner it's still is a dick move even if he is in a society where homosexuality is a taboo.

No, I get that. I also think what he did was wrong and incredibly hurtful. I am not sure how Yuuki will come to trust him again after this. At the same time, I know that he was suffering through his marriage and forcing himself to be someone that he's not. I think breaking up was the best solution because he was hurting Yuuki either way. I'm the type of person that has to view both sides of the story so I can't really hate him, but I was disappointed.

Well well will agree to disagree a bit here because in this case our view don't match because in this case here even if I see both the sides I can't help but despise the seme . because his act of cowardness not only hurt one but two people and more then his suffering I find his decisions selfish and self indulgent in past or present he act on his own accord his suffering because of his marriage was not anyone's fault but only his in which also he had a loving wife where Yuki was hurt and in pain for almost 8 years which is so sad and painful. Then it took him 8 years to realise that he still love him and his words were I won't let you go .stay by my side always it was you who left in the first place. Yuki has such a big heart I can never hate him but I really despise the seme .
And no offence to you I was not being rude to you by any means but if in any of my comments it looked like it I apologise .and it was nice talking to you

I have to disagree with you about the realism. Oh sure, I will grant you there are possibly "societal pressures" in which some characters suddenly find themselves trapped (in spite of having thrown them off quite breezily before.) There are even "emotional pressures" and "biological pressures"; a baby is a very difficult biological imperative to resist for anybody who have a deep-seated desire to fulfill the role of mother or father. Those factors are not the issue. Where the realism fails is in the quick-chop plot changes. No set-up or warning. No exploration of thought or feeling. No period of emotional distancing. Just one thing after another, bang, bang, bang, no breathers, no processing, no integration. If the motivations are realistic, the execution of the story isn't. The overall effect is like those 10-minute Condensed Cream of Shakespeare or Harry Potter skits, comic for the wrong reasons, and in places where a person wouldn't normally laugh.

No worries, you did not seem rude to me at all ^^ And I think your opinion is perfectly fine and valid. I think the seme messed up a lot, and Yuuki is either really kind or really naive to take him back. Even though I say I can see the seme's side in this, I would have never taken him back if I were Yuuki.

It's like the author drew a rough draft of the story, colored it, submitted it to the publishers, and forgotten to write a coherent story.

it's like: this is what I want to write when the characters are XX years old. This is this, that is that... that's the gist of it...

But it's a very good half baked story. Because it manages to elicit strong feelings from the reader.

Doesn't stop the fact that the story feels like a rough draft than a finished product.

Sorry, just my honest thoughts.

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I really follow your comment. You're saying it's not realistic because you felt the story was choppy? I'm not entirely sure what that has to do with the realism of a gay couple in a country where being gay is "wrong" breaking up due to societal pressure?
As for the "quick-chop plot changes": The story takes place over multiple years, and each chapter tackles a certain moment (or moments) in time. In that case, yes it is choppy, but this is done on purpose and actually helps the story instead of hindering it.
You claim there is no set up or warning, yet the break up is definitely expected as soon as the second part of the third chapter starts. The seme is indifferent and Yuuki is desperate. Both knew what was coming, and the woman confessing to the seme must have had all kinds of things going through his head. How long can he say he's dating without ever telling them who? How can he move up in his career if he's single? What about his parents, etc. He was really scared and reacted poorly due to his fears.
No exploration of feelings? The fourth chapter does touch on the distance between the two, and how the separation has affected them. The seme (god I feel awful for not recalling his name) is clearly depressed, tries to avoid his wife as much as possible. He's constantly thinking of Yuuki and feeling guilty for him and his wife. Yuuki on the other hand sleeps with men that remind him of the seme, and has never gotten over their breakup. He stares longingly at a lighter because it reminds him of the seme and sleeps with the guy in hopes that the kiss will taste the same if he smokes the same brand as the seme did.
I'm sorry if these aspects of the story didn't work out for you, but they are definitely there and are done rather well for the amount of time spent on each age that the chapters follow. There's a lot of emotional weight in those small glimpses of their lives.

Again, I disagree. Emotional connection to the seme is severed in the second part of the third chapter, which is the likeliest reason why nobody remembers his name, and some commenters even misname him. The emotional "weight" I experienced was (1) mainly disappointment that a promising story tanked after the first two chapters, in which the characters did come across as authentic, and (2) annoyance over the clumsy handling of sensitive material like self-delusion, betrayal and attachment. Yes, themes like self-delusion, betrayal and attachment carry emotional weight, but here, the sense is that they are overly dramatized. The whole radar love thing came across as borderline woo, and the punch and slap then hugs reconciliation scene feels like a BS reaction. It called for a heavier frost. The desperation you refer to at the end of the third chapter was too much, too soon and in a situation which came on like gangbusters, when the most realistic response would be uncertainty, possibly a little fear and some gentle probing, definitely not a sense of "all is lost" just yet. As for the avoidance of the wife and the depression, again, there was too much emotional disconnection, caused entirely by the choppiness of the scene progression. As for the social pressures of being gay in Korea, there was no sense of danger, either actual or imminent.

It could be that the choppiness and lack of realism had to do, as you said, with the sweeping time period of the story arch, but I've seen other mangaka handle similar time frames very effectively (for example, in the first story of http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/koakuma_no_sanctuary/ . The themes in the two stories are very similar.) Possibly the choice of a linear approach to time progression was a mistake. A nonlinear series of flashbacks might've been better. There are stories where a photo-album approach to key scenes in the character's lives can be effective. This was not one of them. The sequence of actions—the choppiness that you felt helped the progress of storytelling—was so poorly orchestrated and executed that it kept pushing me out, disconnecting me from the characters and the story line itself.

So, we'll just have to agree to disagree. I wanted to like this story. It began well.

Yes, this. It's still too much in the rough sketch stage.

I think it was a mistake for the mangaka to choose a linear approach to time progression. A more effective beginning would be the moment, in Alaska, where the uke lands his punches, possibly walking away and leaving the seme prone in a snowbank to cool his head for awhile and think seriously about how redemption requires atonement. Then the story can build with series of flashbacks to their first encounters, interspersed with the process of winning forgiveness in the story's "present".

So there are two things going on: there is the problem of the LaLaLand final epilogue style of quick-chop scene cutting throughout the third and fourth chapters, which causes the photo-album "key moments" to seem hyperbolic and unreal, and that's the second problem.

I appreciate that you elaborated further on your points, but will agree to disagree. I will check out the manga you shared as well :)

You know, I was struggling to explain why I found the manga so unrealistic, and it bothered me that I couldn't put my finger on it quite right. I think I've found the perfect analogy. It's the "Wild Kingdom" effect.

I don't watch much television, so I don't know if this is the case anymore, but nature shows were very popular when I was a younger adult. The problem, as a natural park superintendent once explained to me, is that these shows focused on dramatic elements like suspense, action and slaughter because, of course, this attracts viewers. But it wasn't an accurate representation of, say, a lion pack, because most of the time, the pack lies around sleeping or scratching, or, I dunno, "picking their noses". The hunt, the chase, the kill and the gore while they gorge themselves to satiation are a relatively small set of moments in lion packs' days, and it is quite common to see them drinking at the watering holes in peace with the other animals because they aren't hungry at that moment and every other animal, though wary, knows it, ie., most of the time, there is nothing going on. But the characteristics of what a lion is become skewed in the minds of viewers because of the intensity, focus and full-screen enlargement on the most dramatic elements of those animals' lives, the hunt. This effect carries over to viewers' perceptions of other animals, too, like the head-butting mating rituals of bighorn sheep and moose, or the mass suicide of lemmings. So the ferocity of lions or the hard-headed "stubborness" of goats becomes overly exaggerated, surreal and, oddly enough, anthropomorphized. This presents problems to naturalists because part of their jobs involve education and public awareness to a population which has been incorrectly "propagandized" about animal behaviour.

Well, the same thing happens with a choppy quick-cut set of moments in the progression of conflict and resolution. This would be the most important aspect of a story arc, and yet, it is hyper-condensed in this story to just two chapters. Now that wouldn't be a problem if this was a smaller story, but the pacing was already determined by the slow, luxurious treatment given to the school year development of friendship and love over the first two chapters. So, the change in pace was abrupt and unsettling. This could've been avoided if the mangaka had chosen a "in media res" style of exposition, opening on the moment of highest drama, and then working through two timelines simultaneously, one in the present, the other through flashbacks. Or, she could've chosen a more Robert Altman/Virginia Woolf-style of exposition where the plot and revelations of character are saturated with "stream-of-consciousness" world-building details and a constant white-noise buzz of activity, like life, which neutralize some of the dramatic distortion. Of course, the problem with that approach is it can get boring, like housekeeping.

Anyway, that's enough. It bothered me and I thought I was finished saying what I had to say, and I wasn't. Sorry to bang on about it.

No worries. I see your point, even if I don't agree with it.