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I think it's Hashiba's fault that Kei became an av actor. Because when Yakuza have women t...

mint June 11, 2017 2:48 pm

I think it's Hashiba's fault that Kei became an av actor. Because when Yakuza have women they willingly spend money on them and they don't have to give back everything that was given to them. Plus, the head used to at least like Kei so for the sake of the past he would have let Kei go if he wanted to.

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    Anonymous June 11, 2017 3:36 pm

    Nope it's not his fault, the old man ordered him to get back the money he gave to his ex lover. He said it, it was debt when he was abandoned by the yakuza leader.

    mint June 11, 2017 4:05 pm
    Nope it's not his fault, the old man ordered him to get back the money he gave to his ex lover. He said it, it was debt when he was abandoned by the yakuza leader. @Anonymous

    The old man NEVER explicitly ordered Hashiba to get back the money he gave Kei. If he did that means I'm missing pages after I went back three times to check if what
    I'm saying is true. + When Hashiba mentionned that he gave Kei the money, the old man continued writing and didn't mention anything of importance. With the way Hashiba was acting in the past and recent chapters I suppose that Kei becoming a av actor was all Hashiba's doing. Confirmation may come in the future chapters.

    Anonymous June 11, 2017 4:59 pm
    The old man NEVER explicitly ordered Hashiba to get back the money he gave Kei. If he did that means I'm missing pages after I went back three times to check if what I'm saying is true. + When Hashiba mentionne... mint

    It's easy to figure out, hashiba told the uke to leave but he was in love with the old man so he stayed. The old man went to see him less and less then decided to stop his relationship and asked hashiba a way to get back his monay and to get rid of him. If it was Hashiba's will I think he would do it a long time ago

    mint June 11, 2017 5:41 pm
    It's easy to figure out, hashiba told the uke to leave but he was in love with the old man so he stayed. The old man went to see him less and less then decided to stop his relationship and asked hashiba a way ... @Anonymous

    On what do you base yourself to say that the old man wanted to stop his relationship with Kei and get rid of him? We don't know what Hashiba said to the old man, Kei never saw the old man again and the old man never told Kei by some way that he wanted his money back. By the way, why would the old man want the money back? He is a yakuza. He makes more money than you and me. Kei was his misstress, why should he give back what was spent on him. Doesn't make sense. + Doesn't the way Hashiba introduced Kei to the av world suspicious? Why would Hashiba still contact Kei after so many years?

    kurochi June 11, 2017 5:45 pm
    It's easy to figure out, hashiba told the uke to leave but he was in love with the old man so he stayed. The old man went to see him less and less then decided to stop his relationship and asked hashiba a way ... @Anonymous

    Actually, it is extremely easy to figure out that Hashiba is the one who thought of the plan, not the old man. As you can see on page 25 of chapter 5, the old man literally says nothing and just stays quiet since he is busy writing. Then Hashiba is quiet and on page 26 Hashiba says : ''Actually there's something I want to talk to you about 'that'''. The entire time the old man just responded with small ''uh huhs'', and on page 26 they obviously show that the one talking about the ''something'' is Hashiba. Also, on page 16 of chapter 5 you can see Hashiba's face when he meets the main guy for the first time. His face doesn't look that happy, and again you see that he stays quiet with the dots. So he must have been thinking something. And on page 19, Hashiba AGAIN, looks unhappy when the old man told him on page 18 to bring the car back the next morning. Showing displease with the old man staying over. It could have been worry, if not for the fact that he looked so unhappy and displeased the moment he saw the main guy AND that while the old man was quiet and was just calmly writing, minding his own business, Hashiba was the one who wanted to talk about ''something''. If you seriously think Hashiba is the good guy and the old man the bad guy who ordered him around, you should really re-read the chapters or learn the difference between facial expressions. Cause that old man cared for the main guy, and Hashiba looked displeased ALL the time.

    Anonymous June 11, 2017 6:22 pm
    Actually, it is extremely easy to figure out that Hashiba is the one who thought of the plan, not the old man. As you can see on page 25 of chapter 5, the old man literally says nothing and just stays quiet sin... kurochi

    Hashiba is displeased because his master is fooling around with his mistress instead of producing a heir with his wife. When he asked Kei to get away it was like a warning. When the old man get bored with kei he abandoned him and the thing Hashiba was referring is the fact that kei keep waiting for him so Hashiba set the trap because someone told him to do it.

    Anonymous June 11, 2017 6:34 pm
    On what do you base yourself to say that the old man wanted to stop his relationship with Kei and get rid of him? We don't know what Hashiba said to the old man, Kei never saw the old man again and the old man... mint

    But hnashiba wouldn't have introduce kei to the av world if he hadn't the boss's bless so you can assume that the boss sell kei and granted nashiba green light to wathever he wants to do with kei, I think hanashiba did that cause he wanted kei to himself but if he asked directly to the boss probably the old man would rejected him so he come out with this sick idea of selling kei to make porn and on the way he took the chance to kept kei or at least a part of him to himself

    Anonymous June 11, 2017 6:52 pm
    But hnashiba wouldn't have introduce kei to the av world if he hadn't the boss's bless so you can assume that the boss sell kei and granted nashiba green light to wathever he wants to do with kei, I think hanas... @Anonymous

    Yeah I don't know why but somewhere I have the feeling that Hashiba was obsessed by Key. Maybe he was displeased to see Key with his boss because he was in love with him.

    mint June 11, 2017 7:12 pm

    We can say the old man cared for Kei because even when he stopped visiting Kei he still gave him money and a place to live. When Kei lived in the appartment, he didn't have to worry about anything and could have anything he wanted

    Anonymous June 11, 2017 7:23 pm
    We can say the old man cared for Kei because even when he stopped visiting Kei he still gave him money and a place to live. When Kei lived in the appartment, he didn't have to worry about anything and could hav... mint

    If he cared about him he should tell him let's break up instead of making him wait for nothing.

    mint June 11, 2017 11:36 pm
    If he cared about him he should tell him let's break up instead of making him wait for nothing. @Anonymous

    Still, Kei didn't go to college, doesn't have an house and only has the saving he earned from being an host. Being with the old man, he doesn't have to worry about anything

    Anonymous June 12, 2017 1:39 am
    Still, Kei didn't go to college, doesn't have an house and only has the saving he earned from being an host. Being with the old man, he doesn't have to worry about anything mint

    But the old man didn't care about kei I mean he let hanashiba do all that horrible things to kei, the old man is like the head of the group, and hanashiba is a simple high ranked subordinate but at the end a subordinate so hanashiba wouldn't dare do anything to kei without the old man approval, the old man didn't care for kei anymore he didn't love him he was a toy boy he kept until he was bored and then just discarded him in the most horrible and painful way

    kiwikitsune June 12, 2017 1:57 am
    If he cared about him he should tell him let's break up instead of making him wait for nothing. @Anonymous

    I agree.

    Anonymous June 12, 2017 2:14 am
    Still, Kei didn't go to college, doesn't have an house and only has the saving he earned from being an host. Being with the old man, he doesn't have to worry about anything mint

    He was in love with him and maybe it was the old man's conditions to stay with him

    Anonymous June 12, 2017 2:15 am
    He was in love with him and maybe it was the old man's conditions to stay with him @Anonymous

    And it's not free he paid with his body

    Rice Cake September 23, 2017 9:19 pm
    And it's not free he paid with his body @Anonymous

    Welp, it turns out it was hashiba all long, that bastard

    Tbh, I personally think the old man cared about kei (the sex was consensual, and kei was in love with him, so you can't say he was forced to sell his body for money) but because old man had a child he couldn't be with him as much anymore, but he still sent money to him because he cared about kei, but then hashiba went and spread some lies and fucked up kei's life (which still had a happy ending but still, damn he went through a lot)