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tokidoki June 12, 2017 9:12 pm

Just got banned from a Christian FB page for posting a rainbow sticker on it ... Pride

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    Coconut4U June 13, 2017 1:59 am
    As long as there is no sex same sex couples are okay? Incest is okay though, right? Pedophilia is okay, right? But sex between two women is not okay, I just dont get it. Have you ever thought that maybe god cr... @Anonymous

    One, I do believe that Incest and Pedophilia are actually worse than homosexuality in my religion. That's probably why you're confused, you should probably read into that a bit more on official sites and such. Two, God didn't create homosexuality, I actually found that a bit funny, we as a people, humans you could say, did that. Because like I said earlier if it was supposed to be they would be able to reproduce. Otherwise why try to make babies? That's what sex was to begin with a way to express your love to someone in the hopes of creating a child with a piece of each of them. As a woman if a man ever gave me a child, in otherwords a part of both him and me, it would be the greatest gift in this life. That's just what I believe, you don't need to believe it as well, that's your choice. If the earth was really crowded then don't you think all those wide open places would also be filled with people? There would be no empty mountains, no clear plains, no empty desserts. The only thing that's overpopulated are our cities. Small sections and corner of our vast world. We only struggle with limited resources because we don't share with each other all that we can. Billions of food spoil and rot and go to waste daily, while in other countries people are starving to death and never eat more than less than a cup of rice a day. Resources are only limited to others due to us and our choices. Some cows are overfed and stuffed so that when their slaughtered they have more meat. This is just and example. So no I don't believe God created homosexuality. And no pedophilia is the worst of the worst, along with incest. My mother actually cringes whenever she hears stories on the news about those two things.

    This is a manga site June 13, 2017 2:02 am
    The facts part works both ways, what proof do you have that God doesn't exist? Exactly, there is no proof either way. My facts backing facts only works with anything in this world, politics, moral values, favor... Coconut4U

    look kid, keep your religion to yourself. you are not going to turn anyone of us to the light side. you talking about your god while there are other people on this site with other religions and other gods, and we know how your god just has to be the only one. it is kinda rude to do so. you said yourself you are underage, you will have plenty of time in your life to question and reaffirm your faith, just please keep it off this site. you are offending people.

    Anonymous June 13, 2017 2:07 am
    I'm a catholic fujoshi (almost an oxymoron I know xD). And what a lot of people don't understand is that it's not that Christianity doesn't like gay people or anything. Its the act (as in sexually intercourse b... Coconut4U

    I am sorry can you enlighten me here "the sexual intercourse between two men you dont believe in that if it was real they would be able to produce" are you saying what you have exactly wrote here or is there some kind of different meaning to it?

    Coconut4U June 13, 2017 2:10 am
    look kid, keep your religion to yourself. you are not going to turn anyone of us to the light side. you talking about your god while there are other people on this site with other religions and other gods, and ... @This is a manga site

    I was actually planning on keeping it to myself, this is not a place to talk about it. But every since that "cherry picking remark" I've been getting dogged so excuse me while I defend myself, not really my faith. I know other will have ther religions on here and believe in other god, I'm not trying to convert anyone. I've actually never tried to convert anyone I can just imagine the looks I'd get.xD Anyway, yeah I'm underage, so what. I've actually questioned my faith already and affirmed it, my family life is a mess so I'm sure you can imagine why I'd doubt things. I didn't want to discuss this stuff here but you've seen how that turned out. And you say I'm offending people? If they are offended by my opinions then why are they going around and judging and insulting what I believe in (example. tokidoki) they are offending me, I'm only defending myself, which I have every right to do. If I offend them they have every right to defend themselves and what they believe. Just don't insult me and my beliefs. If I insulted them I apologize, that was not my intentions. But you probably won't see them apologize, but who am I to judge?

    Anonymous June 13, 2017 2:11 am
    One, I do believe that Incest and Pedophilia are actually worse than homosexuality in my religion. That's probably why you're confused, you should probably read into that a bit more on official sites and such. ... Coconut4U

    One, I am glad your mother cringes but in the bible there is incest, how else do you think the world was populated? It clearly states incest. Two, there have been plenty of catholic priest who have touched little boys, did they ever go to jail(that means it is okay, right)?? Three, are same sex couple OK as long as they dont have sex? Oh never mind there is no point in arguing with you, religion creates and spread ignorance and intolerance. Please dont send any prayers my way I am sooooo good on that. Thanks

    tokidoki June 13, 2017 2:13 am
    Okay that's fine, and don't worry I will pray. You didn't need to ask for my life story, I only gave it because you seem to like judging people without knowing them, just thought I'd enlighten you a bit. I'll a... Coconut4U

    I never once judged you, and I do not need enlightenment or prayers. Please desist. I am also done talking religion with you. And I don't hate Christians either nor did I call you a "P"reacher, imbuing you with a certification to lecture me, but you seem to like putting words in my mouth. Good day.

    Coconut4U June 13, 2017 2:18 am
    I am sorry can you enlighten me here "the sexual intercourse between two men you dont believe in that if it was real they would be able to produce" are you saying what you have exactly wrote here or is there ... @Anonymous

    It may have come off a bit weird, I was typing as fast as I can and I'm a bit rushed. But here's a better way of saying it lifeteen.com/blog/catholics-care-about-gays-the-myth-debunked/ I've really got to go, it's really late here. Sorry I couldn't type it down for you I got to go.

    Coconut4U June 13, 2017 2:27 am
    I never once judged you, and I do not need enlightenment or prayers. Please desist. I am also done talking religion with you. And I don't hate Christians either nor did I call you a "P"reacher, imbuing you with... tokidoki

    It's late but seriously though, what part of your responses to mine didn't included or implied judging and insulting? and I quote,

    "The problem is that many Christians cherry pick what they want to support in the bible, so they are fine with condemning people for some things, then they go and eat shellfish, or wear blended fibre clothes, or refuse to sell their daughters for goats."

    "But there are quite a few hypocrites in every religion, who only use certain passages and justify their hate and intolerance with religious teachings. And if you followed the book verbatim then you must lead a very restricted life, which I doubt, since you are on this site."

    Especially this last one, "Okay, you go ahead a pray your futile prayers. I did not ask for your life story, I have actually read the book, once, which was more than enough, considering how horrible and unforgiving some of it is, and actually went to church, when I was still naive.
    And you are failing to realize that your book has many flaws, I pity you and your delusions. And if not believing in your particular brand of faith sends me to hell ... well, as I don't believe in folklore and fairy tales, guess my atoms will just happily float through the cosmos when I die.
    And I am happy (and glad that I am NOT a preaching Catholic) Sorry, not sorry."

    You implied I was naive, that I'm delusional, basically you said I was an idiot who didn't know any better. If I said any of this to you I"m sure you would defend your beliefs and yourself no? Anyway it's super late here and I've got stuff to do, good night all, and I"m sorry for offending anyone that was not my intentions nor was it my intentions to apparently 'preach' and put words in other's mouths. I'm sorry once again, I've got my dad's birthday to celebrate. Bye.

    tokidoki June 13, 2017 2:53 am
    It's late but seriously though, what part of your responses to mine didn't included or implied judging and insulting? and I quote,"The problem is that many Christians cherry pick what they want to support in th... Coconut4U

    Yeah, when you bother to log back in ... 'many Christians cherry pick what they want to support' was not judging YOU, and you all DO cherry pick ... or do you actually follow that book religiously?
    'But there are quite a few hypocrites in every religion' was not judging YOU ... and it DOES apply to all religions ... you just took it as a personal insult.
    I never called YOU naive, I said that I was ... then you really started getting preachy, and I got a little hot under the collar.
    Now, faux minister, if you have finally finished lecturing all of us sinners, please pray for your own soul. I checked your profile page and you have been reading porn since you were twelve or so ... bad Catholic.

    Coconut4U June 13, 2017 3:38 am

    I'm back, and I apologize if I misinterpreted your words but that is how I perceived them. I'm sorry for seeming preachy as well, we both got hot under the collar. I'm not a 'faux minister' either which is honestly kind of insulting considering I wasn't trying to be but that's how you've perceived me. I was never 'lecturing all of you sinners' but hey, I misinterpreted you and you misinterpreted me. If anything I'm just as much a sinner, there's nothing seriously weird about that. I doubt there's anyone in the world who isn't a sinner. Even priests and the Pope, but when they sin the to penance and such. Anyway I got off topic, I always pray for my family and myself so don't worry about that. I've only been reading yaoi since I was 14 and you're judging me ;) Also I never said I was a good Catholic either, but that should be obvious, I'm mean look at what site we're on. You know you also just insulted me by calling me a bad catholic, but whatever you call me I know myself more than you know me. I know why I do the things I do, why I say the things I say. I'm not going to call you a bad person or anything, but I know I am, you have insulted and offended me whether on purpose or not. I'm may have done the same to you, I apologize. But let's not say you never did, because you just did. But if you didn't in your previous responses I apologize. Anyway, I've got some manga to catch up on now that I've got time. I do hope this will be the end of our conversation, this really took a weird turn and if other's reading find me at fault I apologize, because I doubt anyone else will. But y'all don't really need to anyway. Good night-ish if it's nighttime for you, sorry for making this question go all over the place. And toki, you've made yourself clear, I harbor no hard feelings or anything of the sort towards you, you have the right to your own opinion and beliefs. Just please stop trying to ridicule me or mine. And if your not trying to and I misinterpreted you again, I apologize. Good morning, evening and night.

    tokidoki June 13, 2017 3:49 am
    I'm back, and I apologize if I misinterpreted your words but that is how I perceived them. I'm sorry for seeming preachy as well, we both got hot under the collar. I'm not a 'faux minister' either which is hone... Coconut4U

    I don't judge you for reading yaoi, you said you are under 18, and your profile states you have been reading it for 5 years - that would make you around 12 when you started. And reading porn is considered a pretty big sin - mortal in fact ""Producing or using pornography is gravely wrong. It is a mortal sin if it is committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent. Unintentional ignorance and factors that compromise the voluntary and free character of the act can diminish a person's moral culpability," says the approved version of "Create in Me a Clean Heart: A Pastoral Response to Pornography."

    Do you confess that you read porn to your priest? If not, that makes you a Catholic living with a mortal sin - ergo 'bad Catholic" - I did not call you a bad person, and you need to read what I have said properly, as you think I am insinuating bad things, I am not.

    And this whole weird debate started when you started lecturing (yes, you are) on religion after I wrote that I put a harmless rainbow on a Christian FB page.

    Coconut4U June 13, 2017 4:12 am
    I don't judge you for reading yaoi, you said you are under 18, and your profile states you have been reading it for 5 years - that would make you around 12 when you started. And reading porn is considered a pre... tokidoki

    You just saved me! I totally didn't see that five years part, I typed that profile when I joined which was years ago,I don't even read it anymore but you're right, it says five years of yaoi, I meant to put five years of manga not yaoi! I didn't start reading yaoi till I was deep in manga already. Ugh, this is embarrassing! Also I replied to someone else, who mentioned the confession to my priest you should read that response, my hands are falling off on all this typing. But like I said I apologize if I misinterpreted you. And if you truly believe I'm lecturing I'm honestly not trying to, I may have at one point or another but not overall, not purposely. Also I do find 'bad catholic' offensive, but no more so than if someone called me a bad woman, a bad daughter, because being catholic is as much as my identity as being a female and a daughter. I understand that wasn't you're meaning, but that's how it is in my eyes. But hey I already apologized for they crazy direction this conversation took. But in response to your original post I honestly find that rainbow post of yours a but naughty, if a little funny. But I am still sad, I went to the doctors a while ago with multiple colored nails (cause I dig colors) the first thing she asked was if I was lesbian. I didn't take it as an insult but I find it sad that that's the first thing people think now. I just want to love colors without insinuations. But whatev. I only spoke my honest opinion on the matter which sparked this debacle. But if you posted it on a Christian page it wasn't necessarily harmless, not to the page if they kicked you off. I would've found it kinda funny. Because trust me there are gays in everything. MY gay friends believe in God as well so I don't see what the major problem is with what I believe in. Anyway, I'm going to continue re-reading Shoukugeki no Souma (I don't even think I spelled it right) cause I missed like a bajillion updates. I'm going to go fix my profile first, honestly this is so embarassing! My life is ruined! Anyway, buh bye, sorry for this crazy debacle, that wasn't my intention.

    tokidoki June 13, 2017 4:24 am
    You just saved me! I totally didn't see that five years part, I typed that profile when I joined which was years ago,I don't even read it anymore but you're right, it says five years of yaoi, I meant to put fiv... Coconut4U

    Glad I saved you! And I was doing a bit of trolling with my rainbow post, more because people automatically assume a rainbow means LGBT, I did not expect to be kicked off and found their reaction to be a bit extreme.
    Enjoy your manga. Good Night!

    Coconut4U June 13, 2017 4:49 am
    Glad I saved you! And I was doing a bit of trolling with my rainbow post, more because people automatically assume a rainbow means LGBT, I did not expect to be kicked off and found their reaction to be a bit ex... tokidoki

    I honestly love people who troll, like Milo said, trolls are the only people who tell the truth and speak their minds nowadays. But yeah, that was extreme of them, what is the world coming too! Anyway, while reading I totally forgot how competitive this manga was. I wonder if cooking schools are really this competitive? It's like me and my sister trying to out due each other in the kitchen and all you get is burnt or underdone. xD Well, good night. Also do you know any good unknown manga? Like the kind with hardly any reads, I found a couple recently and wondered why they didn't have more votes cause they were so good? Anyway, I'm so off topic. G'night, sorry for the mess.

    tokidoki June 13, 2017 4:57 am
    I honestly love people who troll, like Milo said, trolls are the only people who tell the truth and speak their minds nowadays. But yeah, that was extreme of them, what is the world coming too! Anyway, while re... Coconut4U

    My cousin is a Cordon Bleu chef, he said schools were quite competitive, but I have not read the manga you are referring to, so can't comment on that point.

    A great manga that needs more love is Genwaku no Kodou, super story with great art,if you want yaoi, Adekan is wonderful, (shounan ai) and [switch] has lovely art and a great story. G'night.