Yeah . As far as I know, Noah is not too toxic.
Yes thank you and I just want a good chasing arc where he realizes all his mistakes and cries in front of her then they live happily ever after
I agree I think he’s needs to grovel and I’m glad River left bc the situation was toxic
The author don't known u will be the final lead, i prefer Julian Over Noah but we will see
He's not a redflag but he's toxic for her , he's not bad cause he chose to be or hurt her on purpose, he absolutely needs therapy
But like you went through something difficult why hurting others! You can't be in a relationship don't give her mix signals, when you know she likes you .. if it's just for the kids he could've found someone to bear them and after they're born that's it , without getting intimate or attached or all of this
The yarning and crying and begging is a must!
But then again I don't want them to ends up together, he was toxic for her and it's not like he can undo anything he's done so if she's gonna ends up with him can she really put everything he did behind and start a new?
Idk ..but probably no or maybe but i think she'll always keep thinking he's with her as a replacement or he's lonely or she's just second choice .. idk if she can actually feel secure or not doubt him
On Noah, it's the classic one's past/trauma does not excuse their current behavior/actions. His past is understandable and rightfully should be recognized, sympathized. But every traumatized person is responsible to come to terms with their issues, just like every other person in the planet, to become a better human for others and themselves. Noah deserves experiencing what's happening right now.
Julian, I don't see his actions as controlling at all, pushy but not controlling. I guess this perspective is different from one culture to another but his behavior is pretty common in Asia. Nosy neighbors can be annoying but they make a community that help each other out. And it's not in a transactional manner like what River is used to. But, Julian may not be Asian so, idk. Plus they are in Rome - idk the culture there.
I've read a lot of grey/red/black flags but I don't think Noah should be tossed aside just yet. Call me crazy but I think he needs therapy and to actually tell river how he's been feeling. He's just a guy that's been through something really traumatic and when he finally had the kids he wanted for his for love, he felt guilty falling in love with the surrogate. He was wrong for making the kids not call her mom but then again he didn't know it was gonna become a permanent thing, so imma cut him some slack as long as I get the yearning and crying I wanted from this arc. Also Julian idk just seems weird to me. He barely knows river and wants to just control her (for lack of a better word.) he's just too pushy but he's right about the emergency contact thing.