MC is unlikeable

are you a child? my other options for reasons for this lame ass comment are - you're a man and - you're dumb

did you even read the manhwa properly… what you called “prank” is literally a manipulation on a kid. if you DID read it properly then you’ll know that before coming to that fuckass house aria was such a bright kid despite being in a poor household. she also tried to get along well with mielle the day she arrived, which didn’t get a good feedback, from who? that shittie noble who thinks she’s superior to everyone. it’s safe to say she did all that due to the those MANIPULATIONS by mielle’s side. those maids brainwashed her, made her do all that shit, thanks to whose order? while it doesn’t erase all her wrongdoings, it’s understandable given her circumstances. she was a KID, the one who didn’t receive education at that. also the way you’re saying “The only thing Mielle did that warrants such revenge is poisoning Aria's mother” is funny to me cause as if killing her AND her mother isn’t a big deal and enough reason to get revenge

Thats the thing... no one MAKES anyone do anything. Even if you are manipulated into, lets say, killing someone. You still killed someone, no matter the reason. And no, cutting off someones tongue is not understandable.

Thanks for resorting to personal insults instead of being an adult and engaging in reasonable conversation.

girl, talk about zero literacy. i literally said that it doesn’t erase all her wrongdoings. she is still wrong. even aria herself aware that she’s wrong and aint a saint. but it was so obvious that those maids brainwashed and manipulated her. literally the only source of all of her inferior complex. did you even read those panels that show how most of her actions are also suggested by those shitty maids (like bullying mielle, buying stupid outfits, dolled her up and whatsover)? which MIELLE HERSELF said that she was the one who ordered them. and you said it yourself, killing someone for whatever reason is still wrong. so why is it the fact that mielle killed aria and her mother, somehow for you, isn’t enough reason for aria to get revenge?

What is it with people hurling insults over a simple manhwa?

You literally are insulting me over literacy, yet in your last sentence you are asking a question that I already answered in my original comment: Aria contributed heavily to her own downfall in her past life by being a terrible person and doing things such as cutting her maids tongue out. That is why I don't care for her revenge. Because both Aria and Mielle terrible people. Neither of them are innocent.

Going into more detail:

I read some spoilers for the novel **spoiler warning** which said that Aria tried to poison Mielle in her past life, and that is why the brother ordered her dead? What part of that warrants revenge on the brother when she is the one who committed a crime in the first place?

Take for example, you have an undercover police officer friend who coaxed you into shoplifting and then arrested you on the spot. The police officer was still shitty for doing that, but shoplifting is a crime and you should have never done it, peer pressure or not.

i just said zero literacy based on your takes on them after you read it, idek why you mad. and there, you said it again. both of them are terrible people, neither of them are innocent. which i also agree as you can see. the only difference is while aria well aware that she’s evil, the same can’t be said about mielle tho as even right before she beheaded she remained blinded by noble this noble that. yet based on your comments you clearly are biased towards her. saying “Aria contributed 90% to her own death in her first life”, ignoring the fact that she was brainwashed and manipulated “no one MAKES anyone do anything” you said, or she has not enough reason to get revenge and such.

your original comment and the one i replied to, was literally about her revenge on mielle (which i suppose you now agree that killing her and her mother IS enough reason?) tho. why is it suddenly turn into her brother? but sure, let’s see.

what part of that warrants revenge on the brother when she is the one who committed a crime in the first place, you asked? mind you, if you did read it you’ll know that in the very first chapter mielle herself said that it was also her who did the mess “it would be boring to poison you like i did to your mother. instead, i made it seems like you tried to poison me with with the same method.” and it was also her who poisoned her brother to death :D sure she originally planned to kill annie (+ aria) and it was aria who ‘pushed’ her to do that but hey, you said killing is still killing no matter what, right?

well, i personally think that the fact that he’s a misogynist loser who clearly lust over his stepsister is enough reason to off him tho. so a win for me idc.

I mean, why shouldn't I give you the side eye for insulting me? I'm just calling outy our lack of literacy as this is a clear example of the pot calling the kettle black.

I also find it very funny you think I am biased in favor of Mielle just because I don't like the MC. Has it ever crossed your mind that I maybe don't like either of them? The only reason I am talking about Aria specifically is because she is the main character. Everyone already hates Mielle for obvious reasons so why would I waste my time making a comment outlining the reasons Mielle is unlikeable?

As far as the whole manipulation thing goes, MANIPULATION DOESN'T ERASE AGENCY. Sure, Mielle manufactured the situations, however Aria is the one who ultimately chose to overreact and inflict harm on others.

As I mentioned in the comment, I read a novel spoiler about the poisoning. Maybe they changed the plot in the manhwa, idk, but that is why I specified it was a novel spoiler...

Why aren't I allowed to reference the brother, lol? My comment was about how the main character is unlikeable. The main point of my comment was NOT about "Aria's revenge on Mielle" and it is unfortunate that that was your takeaway. I used her revenge on Mielle as an EXAMPLE of why Aria is unlikeable, but revenge on Mielle specifically was not the main point of my comment.

well for someone who claimed to like neither of them you sure doesn’t seem like it tho, but ok mb. also the way i already answered your question regarding her brother…. i see you deliberately ignored that again. “MANIPULATION DOESN'T ERASE AGENCY” so why is that you’re so set stone on blaming aria for ‘manipulating’ mielle into poisoning her own brother…? but sure whatever, i’m done here

Girl yea I hope you're done here. And not sure why you're re-iterating that you answered my question about the brother, never said you didn't. Idk what it is you want me to say about that. Hope you get that reading comprehension checked cause I literally never claimed nor blamed Aria for manipulating Mielle into poisioning her own brother??? This is literally so funny cause I'm not sure where you got that from.

well too bad for you i happen to have another day off to talk to some not so smart people online :p there’s only one of us who needs a reading comprehension test (spoiler: it’s not me)! it seems like you don’t even know what you’re talking about and it speaks volumes. “I'm not sure where you got that from.” you were literally the one who brought up about aria’s revenge towards the asshole brother, and the only thing aria did specifically to that mf is manipulating mielle into poisoning him. or are you talking about different case again now?

Thought you were done here?

Ok girl, here is your problem. I will say something, and then somehow you will hallucinate what I said into something else.

Tell me, how does me saying "Aria tried to poison Mielle in her past life, and that is why the brother ordered her dead" equate to me, in your words, "blaming aria for ‘manipulating’ mielle into poisoning her own brother…? "

Where on earth in my original sentence did I mention Aria manipulating Mielle into poisoning the brother? Please explain.

ugh you’re not so fast to catch things, are you? i literally stated it in my previous comment. but here i’ll dumb it down for you.

1. you brought up aria’s revenge towards the brother first.
2. the ONLY ‘revenge’ aria did that is specifically to the said mf is manipulating mielle into poisoning him.
3. so, first you blamed aria for getting manipulated “Aria tried to poison Mielle in her past life, and that is why the brother ordered her dead” then belittling it with some “MANIPULATION DOESN'T ERASE AGENCY” and other bs but also blaming aria for getting ‘revenge’ by doing literally the same, saying as if she got it coming and doesn’t have any reason to get revenge on that deadbeat “What part of that warrants revenge on the brother when she is the one who committed a crime in the first place?”
4. i asked you, my bad if by chance you weren’t talking about this case while bringing up aria’s revenge on that mf, but then which other case?

Bro you still did not answer my question. Quote me. Where did I say that Aria manipulated Mielle into poisioning her brother?

Honestly I understand where you’re coming from. I didn’t agree when I first read your comment but I’m at chapter 18 now and she seems like her own worst enemy. Like don’t get me wrong her sister is awful as well but they have yet to show how exactly Mielle is responsible for Arias execution. Even Aria admits it was her behavior and she was acting foolish. It’s frustrating. Thankfully it’s not a long manwha though so I’ll try to read until the end to see how it goes.

so by your logic groomed victims are at fault..?? Like, wdym no one makes anyone do anything bruv. Power balances, blackmail, grooming, etc. I hope you're exaggerating bc that take is worryinging

??? I am now convinced you all are bots or something because how did you equate a perpetrator (a murderer) with a a grooming victim and claim that is the same thing???

Ok, maybe some people who are groomed go on to commit crimes. In those cases, in a court of law, the background of abuse is taken into account and you may be given a lighter punishment. But once you are of age, you are still held responsible on some level for your actions. That is why murderers who were abused in childhood still go to jail. Maybe a reduced sentence, but they still go to jail.

Anyway, I am so confused by these braindead takes so I'm retiring from this conversation. Peace.

Thank you. At least one sane comment in this sea of insanity. Please do let me know if this story improves. I would definitely continue reading if there is reasonable justification for Aria's quest for revenge.

?????? first, I didn't equate it a murderer, I was simply using your statement, "no one MAKES anyone do anything", so don't make yourself out to be the smartass here. Yes, it doesn't erase accountability, but your statement there doesn't make sense. You ABSOLUTELY can "make" someone do something. Idgaf abt whatever arguments you're having but you making that claim was just dumb, wrong, and ignorant. Judging by your statement, you believe that people can be groomed, but you just contradicted your original statement..?????

It's also weird that you're using the justice system as your support. The justice system bases its standards on changing and non-universal morals. What is the difference between 17 and 18? How can one thing be illegal but legal the next few years later? and observably, the justice system's purpose is to rehabilitate, otherwise they wouldn't release people because of the "good behavior" bs. The justice system is an unreliable source of morals. When you have to rely on another source that is prone to change as your moral compass, you're the bot here.

I'm just saying that using the law is terrible in an argument/debate and I don't know why you brought it up. Go if you want but if I seem braindead to you imagine how you look to me right now talking about "no one can make anyone do anything". If you're so loud and wrong with me, I don't wanna imagine what you're going on about in the other arguments you're having. Peace, but be at peace and at least educated to some degree

I have the same take as you. Both the villainess characters, Aria & Mielle are unlikable. Girl, if u don't like someone, u don't like them. U don't need to justify anything lol. You don't own anyone any explanation.