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violence is wrong. It's not the way to handle an attempted kiss. What the uke did was no...

raindragon August 12, 2017 5:33 am

violence is wrong. It's not the way to handle an attempted kiss. What the uke did was not self-defense. It was an assault, and you people who think it was an okay thing to do need to learn the difference between right and wrong.

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    raindragon August 12, 2017 5:46 am

    you can downvote me all you want. I will keep advocating for non-violence

    Anonymous August 12, 2017 7:13 am

    You also need to learn that what the seme has done is called sexual harrasment where in some countries is even categorized as sexual assault. I will advocate against sexual assault! Except when you think that is no crime than I have no say for you.

    Ever August 12, 2017 8:09 am
    You also need to learn that what the seme has done is called sexual harrasment where in some countries is even categorized as sexual assault. I will advocate against sexual assault! Except when you think that i... Anonymous

    That's right.

    hogufan August 12, 2017 7:17 pm
    You also need to learn that what the seme has done is called sexual harrasment where in some countries is even categorized as sexual assault. I will advocate against sexual assault! Except when you think that i... Anonymous

    same here

    hogufan August 12, 2017 7:18 pm

    YOU ARE TRASH

    Anonymous August 12, 2017 7:51 pm

    Hahaha! I imagined you saying this like Clethus of Simpsom's. Paleto

    Sushi August 12, 2017 9:10 pm
    You also need to learn that what the seme has done is called sexual harrasment where in some countries is even categorized as sexual assault. I will advocate against sexual assault! Except when you think that i... Anonymous

    AMEN!!!

    Anonn August 13, 2017 1:28 am

    Then how do YOU defend yourself if YOU get sexually assaulted? You let him plunder you mouth? Try and talk him out of it? You are naive

    raindragon August 13, 2017 5:31 am

    In the most radical view, what the seme did might be considered rude. Rudeness doesn't call for violence. The punishment should fit the crime. You guys all have the same idea in your heads about sexual harassment, and those ideas will never stand up against a real life situation. It's just that you're too young and inexperienced to know that. You should realize that you can't write these things without revealing yourselves.
    That you've all banded together on this says that you are young. Young people have a strong need to fit in, so you all echo each other. What concerns me is that your ideas can lead to you, or worse, someone else getting hurt. When you've injured another person, believe me, no one is going to support your accusations of harassment against someone who did something as minor as trying to give you a kiss when you're out on a date.

    raindragon August 13, 2017 6:02 pm
    Then how do YOU defend yourself if YOU get sexually assaulted? You let him plunder you mouth? Try and talk him out of it? You are naive @Anonn

    LMAO - plunder my mouth. You have a way with words. Kisses are usually not sexual. They are done at the end of a date long before people actually get together to have sex, and dates also kiss even if they don't end up having sex. In society, families kiss, friends kiss. some families even kiss on the mouth, which I think is kind of gross, but to each his own. If your family was like that, would it be sexual assault if your dad surprised you with a kiss on the mouth?

    raindragon August 13, 2017 6:48 pm
    you can downvote me all you want. I will keep advocating for non-violence raindragon

    Let me just add that Jinho is as adorable and funny as any uke ever, and when he does it in the story, it's cute and hilarious, and it made me laugh. (I know the difference between reality and fiction)

    TreeChan August 13, 2017 10:27 pm

    Boy it's the same as if someone is pointing a gun at you, will you go like " ugh that's RUDE " or defend your mf self and with all the arguments and and comments you're making it seems that you're nowhere in this place and you're just making a fool out of yourself man. Why they're defending each other ideas is because that's a law out there that's for everyone and bruh if you're that "grown up" you could have known that even in the most minor things you cloud defend yourself. Just because you go on a date doesn't mean there's a right for the other person to kiss without premission. And bruh tf is with that " if my father kissed me in the mouth would that surprise me" bruh nobody has a retarded family like that. I mean not even animals don't go at that extent, there's a line for everything. And you sure do not know the difference between fiction and reality man.


    (Ps. By trying to sugar coat things by that last comment won't help)

    Ever August 15, 2017 12:50 pm

    Their relationship is not intimate, so it was not a consensual kiss. If someone I barely know try to kiss me out of nowhere, I strike him too. Their relationship is just not close enough for something like that to be forgiven.

    raindragon August 15, 2017 4:14 pm
    Their relationship is not intimate, so it was not a consensual kiss. If someone I barely know try to kiss me out of nowhere, I strike him too. Their relationship is just not close enough for something like that... Ever

    Did you notice that the uke went along with the kiss for so long that the seme thinks "I don't think I can stop at this point." I think it's totally out of line to suddenly punch and body-slam someone when you've given tacit consent by going along with things. (he also opened his mouth but that was supposed to be a naive automatic response)

    What if the person you punched for kissing you without your verbal consent is a woman? If so, you're an abuser, a criminal, and deserve to be locked up. If this crowd of people who are so enthused over hitting, punching, throwing to the ground, etc. think that your same rules don't apply in this situation if the other person is a woman, you need to deal with your double-standard.

    I do see what you're saying, and maybe your beliefs regarding verbal consent in every situation apply - for you, not for me. I just don't agree with previous comments that cheer-on the uke's violent response. I think it's great in this manga. It's funny and cute, and I'm Sinsing's biggest fan, but in Real Life, no way, not unless you're willing to chance seriously injuring someone, are willing to watch as the person you injured suffers, are willing to make an enemy out of the person you liked and wanted to have a romantic relationship with, are willing to be arrested and pay for the damage you've done, are willing to face the police who are going to point out that there aren't any marks on you, while the other guy is bruised and battered and lying on the ground, and if you are a cop, are willing to lose your job and pension over it, and are willing for the incident to be portrayed in the press as "police brutality."

    Ever August 15, 2017 4:40 pm

    I get your point however to my point of view, the uke being this violent is probably because he barely knows the seme. The respond might differ as to who is kissing him. It's a different case all together. If I'm putting myself in his shoes, I will do my utter best to defend myself because we are not a thing and I'm not particularly looking at him romantically. But if it was my friend, I would probably only shove him away and the same goes to family.

    raindragon August 16, 2017 3:45 am
    I get your point however to my point of view, the uke being this violent is probably because he barely knows the seme. The respond might differ as to who is kissing him. It's a different case all together. If ... Ever

    I just don't think you're defending yourself if you wait till the kiss is over and then start hitting. At that point you are on the offensive and the other person is now having to defend themselves against you because you are trying to hurt them. And they will defend themselves because you're making it so they have to. Who would just stand there and get hit? and for unknown reasons? Because I doubt if the other person is going to know exactly why you suddenly turned violent. If you push them away, however, it is clear to the other person that you are defending yourself against an unwanted kiss, unlike a sudden physical attack. Once you hit someone you are fighting, something society frowns on.
    You seem like a reasonable person. Thanks for discussing this with me in a nice polite way.