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aririn January 3, 2026 8:51 pm

i genuinely cannot hate any characters ;; but every single time i imagine myself in the girl’s position, i get the ick. Imagine a man you genuinely liked ghosting you for like 10 years and coming back all nonchalant, and even if he had his reasons, the hurt you would have felt was real so even if she gets her closure, i don’t think the relationship would ever work out irl. so when i see eunhyeok, i genuinely can see he is not doing well and feel for him but i think a lot of his supporters and their arguments aren’t grounded in reality. Perhaps, they haven’t actually been in relationships outside of their para social world or so it seems. A lot of people read romance manhwas with happy endings in mind, but the most realistic outcome for this story would be none of them getting together in the end.

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    LatteGratte January 3, 2026 10:15 pm

    I partially agree with you. But this is fiction, so we don’t have to worry about the expectations of reality when reading it.

    Haily January 3, 2026 10:55 pm

    No, I hope she ends up with Dohwa. Because he is a yearner at heart & he would treat her better. However, idk if she is good for him tho :/

    LatteGratte January 4, 2026 1:19 am
    No, I hope she ends up with Dohwa. Because he is a yearner at heart & he would treat her better. However, idk if she is good for him tho :/ Haily

    I disagree, I hope she ends up with Eunhyuk, because to me what matters most is how Suae actually feels with each person, not just how they treat her on paper. With Eunhyuk, Suae can be herself. She doesn't have to perform or people-please. When she set a boundary, telling him not to interfere with her relationships, he respected it. She's comfortable enough with him to be honest about what she needs, and he listens (putting the ghosting aside.) That's the foundation of a healthy relationship. With Dohwa, despite his genuine feelings, Suae is visibly uncomfortable. She's already rejected him, yet he continues pursuing her in ways that disregard her clear signals of discomfort. The result? Their relationship is now in a strained place where she feels guilt and pity toward him. She can’t relax around him anymore. How is that "treating her better" if she's constantly anxious and guilty in his presence? Also, being a yearner doesn't mean you deserve to "get the girl,” what matters is mutual feelings and genuine compatibility. Suae's feelings are consistently pointing toward Eunhyuk, even despite their complicated relationship at the moment. Her thinking of him during Dohwa's kiss, the symbolism throughout the story (red string of fate, the refusal of his shoes, the yellow umbrella), and the parallels to The Rose of Versailles all indicate who is the male lead and the direction the story is heading. And overall, I think Dohwa deserves someone who loves him wholeheartedly, not someone who's with him out of guilt. And Suae deserves to be with someone she can be comfortable and authentic with, not someone around whom she constantly feels pressured and uncomfortable. That person is Eunhyuk.

    ILovemywifus January 4, 2026 7:38 am
    I disagree, I hope she ends up with Eunhyuk, because to me what matters most is how Suae actually feels with each person, not just how they treat her on paper. With Eunhyuk, Suae can be herself. She doesn't hav... LatteGratte

    I was about to completely refute your claims but honestly you support it quite well but it somehow doesn’t seem to make feel less pity for Dohwa. Poor guy you know? I think that’s also why most people want them to end up together. So much they forget it’s a mutual thing like you pointed out. In the end I think I’ll end upset with the ending but I don’t think it’ll stop it from being a great story. I’d like to think maybe in another life Suae loved Dohwa and not Eunhyuk (hopefully we get a short ver. like that it would be cute).

    Bee January 4, 2026 2:29 pm

    i really hope author thinking that too.. They need to go separate ways for each other’s sake..

    Bee January 4, 2026 2:37 pm
    I disagree, I hope she ends up with Eunhyuk, because to me what matters most is how Suae actually feels with each person, not just how they treat her on paper. With Eunhyuk, Suae can be herself. She doesn't hav... LatteGratte

    Idk.. for me she’s being all honest and tells straight was always her thing.. Imagine, she wasn’t set boundaries and acts all sad and uncomfortable.. That’s not her.. So i don’t think it’s just for Eun..
    For Dohwa, i don’t get why people so upset.. He knows she’s available. what’s so wrong a guy trying to win his fav girl over?
    As for Eunhyuk, i really couldn’t care less about him honestly…His sad reason can be anything, it’s already been predictable.. so..

    LatteGratte January 4, 2026 7:04 pm
    Idk.. for me she’s being all honest and tells straight was always her thing.. Imagine, she wasn’t set boundaries and acts all sad and uncomfortable.. That’s not her.. So i don’t think it’s just for Eu... Bee

    I think we're reading completely different scenes. Suae is absolutely showing discomfort with Dohwa. During the kiss, she's thinking about Eunhyuk, not Dohwa, and afterwards she's clearly uneasy and feels bad and guilty about it. In the parking lot, her facial expression shows discomfort as he leans on her. In the car, she visibly pulls her hand away when he tries to touch her. You say being "sad and uncomfortable" isn't her, but actually, that's exactly who Suae is in difficult situations. She's been established as a people-pleaser who struggles to assert boundaries, something Eunhyuk has pointed out to her in the past. So no, she's not being her "honest and straightforward" self with Dohwa right now. She's going along with things even when she's uncomfortable because she doesn't want to hurt someone's feelings. The only person she does not do that with is Eunhyuk. The manwha is showing us through her body language, facial expressions and internal thoughts that she's not okay with the situation.

    Bee January 4, 2026 7:21 pm

    Respect your opinion, but “ The only person she doesn’t do that is Eun”.. Idk After all she’s been through because of him.. i just can’t imagine she going back to her.. But again.. in this cliche love triangle thing she will.. But irl..? No one will..

    LatteGratte January 4, 2026 8:21 pm
    Respect your opinion, but “ The only person she doesn’t do that is Eun”.. Idk After all she’s been through because of him.. i just can’t imagine she going back to her.. But again.. in this cliche love... Bee

    Yes it’s my opinion that Suae should end up with Eunhyuk, but Suae's discomfort with Dohwa isn't simply my opinion/interpretation; it's literally depicted in the panels in the instances I described. You can’t look at those moments and tell me that she’s comfortable. And Suae being a people-pleaser also isn't my opinion, it’s her established character trait we’ve known for a while... It’s also a reason why some people dislike her, they believe she has no backbone and can’t stand up for herself/be straightforward. It’s because she is scared to hurt others. And indeed, it’s true that when she’s with Eunhyuk, she is able to properly express herself and prioritize herself without caring for his feelings. This is not an opinion. You can dislike Eunhyuk or think he doesn't deserve her, I don’t really care. But saying Suae is "being honest and direct" with Dohwa when the panels literally show the opposite is just ignoring what’s on the pages in front of you. As for "no one would go back to him IRL,” maybe, maybe not. But we're discussing what's happening in a story, and what the story is showing us through symbolism, parallels, and Suae's actual reactions is pretty clear about where her feelings lie.

    Haily January 6, 2026 10:06 am
    Yes it’s my opinion that Suae should end up with Eunhyuk, but Suae's discomfort with Dohwa isn't simply my opinion/interpretation; it's literally depicted in the panels in the instances I described. You can�... LatteGratte

    I see where you are coming from. But she only started being uncomfortable once Eun come back into her life. She is currently uncomfortable with both. She knows her heart still wants answers so she is spiraling around Eun but she also knows that bc deep down she is conflicted, she can not give her all to Dowha. Either way, whether she is comfortable or not. Eun isn't a very good boyfriend to her. He showed her once &he will show it her again. But Dowha has been faithful from the beginning. And yes, love is a two way street but that doesn't mean you stay with someone who isn't good to you JUST because you both love each other.

    LatteGratte January 6, 2026 2:25 pm
    I see where you are coming from. But she only started being uncomfortable once Eun come back into her life. She is currently uncomfortable with both. She knows her heart still wants answers so she is spiraling ... Haily

    That's not quite accurate though. Suae was perfectly fine being physically close to Dohwa before, holding hands, casual touch, all of it, because she was comfortable with him as a friend. Her discomfort only started after he kissed her and she realized he has romantic feelings for her. It's not that Eunhyuk's return made her uncomfortable with Dohwa, it's that Dohwa's romantic pursuit has now changed their dynamic. And it's not about her being unable to "give her all" to Dohwa, the kiss made her realize she doesn't have romantic feelings for him at all. There's nothing to give because the feelings simply aren't there. As for Eunhyuk, I'd actually argue she's more comfortable with him, not less. If she were truly uncomfortable around him, she wouldn't be all blushy blushy, she wouldn't have kissed him, and she wouldn't be expressing her genuine feelings, even her anger, so openly. With Eunhyuk, she can be straightforward and prioritize her own feelings over worrying about his, which is exactly what he's encouraged her to do. For someone who struggles with people-pleasing, that’s a big step. With Dohwa, it's the opposite. She feels guilty that she can't return his feelings, so instead of being honest, she stays silent to avoid hurting him which is exactly what a people pleaser would do. Her facial expressions and body language show she's not comfortable. She’s managing his feelings at the expense of her own. Whether Eunhyuk will be a good boyfriend is a separate question, but conflating "loves him but he might hurt her again" with "doesn't love Dohwa at all" isn't the same thing. One is a risk, the other is a fundamental incompatibility. Also, I want to say that I'm not just giving my personal take on these characters, I'm also connecting the multiple parallels to The Rose of Versailles (TROV), which the author is heavily inspired by and has referenced throughout the story and if you use that story it’s easier to tell the direction this one is heading (if the author stays on course) If you're interested, I can explain more in depth.