The hair and their blocking too. Man I was hoping I was wrong from the ch 1’s first panel but the hints got worse in ch 2. I especially adore this mangaka’s art style. I wonder what circumstances led them to use AI
Me too! How sad!! From what I know mangakas are more pressured to release faster manga, because of coreans webtoons and AI. Also they are getting less and less paid (it was not very well paid before but now…). Also big publisher want to replace artists with ai so big platforms are slowly and quietly switching to AI manga/webcomics. The future will not be big publisher or big platform if you want to read human made stories. Art will not come to you like today, you will have to come to art. Gosh internet is becoming more ai everyday. Greedy ceo roting everything for a few more dollars.
It doesn’t help that ai-generated mangas are winning awards in Japan of all countries. If that isn’t the biggest middle finger to one of their largest cultural exports
Yes, i think it’s young shonen jump that awarded an AI manga a few month ago, there is this ai generated manga on webnovel being first in sale. AI is becoming harder to spot even for artists, and some people just dont care what they are reading, dumb technology by dumb people for dumb people. Japan got his soft power from talented artists who put their soul in their work, making it resonate with people and making Japan shine internationally. Japan is making a horrible fatal mistake by being very AI oriented, but their government and companies are mostly ruled by greedy old people who don’t understand art and who only see three month in advance. Thats why their politics is old people oriented. Shitty times
Just curious, can you point out exactly which pages that have the errors?
Sure!
Ch1: Page 11 top right: shoes
Page 12 top right « no i got 2 more jobs after that » eyes, bottom right, same problem
Page 14 top right, the entire character holding the plate is ai generated look at the plate and the way he holds it. We dont draw it that way. Also ai hands.
Page 21 « don’t touch me like that » look at the hand
Page 22 top right, eyes were redrawn
Page 24, the character has a floating hand, no arm
Page 30 the details on the car (not really sure for this one though)
I dont want to doubt but did you take the year this was first made into consideration like if you are thinking the mangaka used ai assist?
It was first released in 2019 and a private scan team been had this completely translated by 2021 so it is a completed story and i dont recall ai being that advanced before 2022.
the arm you mentioned as “missing” honestly isn’t there when i reread it. i checked again carefully and couldn’t find what you’re talking about, so if possible, can you point out the exact panel? same goes for the “strange faces and hands” you mentioned because tbh this mangaka art style has always looked like this for me. (maybe im wrong idk?
i mean just look at their earlier works
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/bakana_inuhodo_itooshii/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/strelitzio/uu/to_chapter-1/pg-1/
Its on page 24 bottom right
Yeah i think the person just jumped the gun and wrongly assumed with confidence becuz i just looked at the specific plate example they mentioned and have seen artists give characters less details when theyre in the background and he wasnt holding the plate out of the ordinary.
There are no floating arms and weird faces. The specific panel where the "arm disappeared" looks fine becuz that's appropriate for the angle we are viewing it from.
And ai couldnt generate like this in 2019 if it was around that time which i dont remember it being
No it was not that advanced before 2022, but there is definitly AI, without doubt. But its kind of altering the original art. Like the pages have been redrawn.
Yeah I gotta agree with u there in 2019 ai text to image generation wasn’t a thing available to the public until the late 2020s
And the ai then was extremely site specific
Look it up if u don’t believe me
Also complicated to use
This statement is so funny…
How much stupidity can a person spew?
so sorry to say this, but is this the first manga you’ve read? all of this can be explained without the use of ai. details on the shoes don’t always look good because they’re usually very small and hard to draw. it’s also completely viable that artists spend less time on them in favor of drawing more important things, which means they can come out looking a bit wonky. same thing goes for other small details like the eyes and hand you’ve mentioned. in this case it seems upscaling messed up the tiny details even more, hence the weird looking eyes and hand. missing limbs can happen and be attributed to human mistakes. the way the guy held the plate looks close to normal to me, but even this… “WE don’t draw it that way”… do all artists draw things the same way? no. i think you’re just paranoid my dude
i reached out to the translator on batoto. they said they enhance the scans using waifu. they’re not sure if that site uses ai or not, but they just used it to improve the quality. i’ve been a fan of this mangaka since reverse, so i was surprised someone accused them of ai. the translator said they have the raws from renta and just enhanced them to make it easier to read. they didn’t use photoshop at all, so it’s hard to get a high quality scans. they also didn’t want to post this that low qua!
i reached out to the translator. they said they enhance the scans using waifu. they’re not sure if that site uses ai or not, but they just used it to improve the quality. i’ve been a fan of this mangaka since reverse, so i was surprised someone accused them of ai. the translator said they have the raws from renta and just enhanced them to make it easier to read. they didn’t use photoshop at all, so it’s hard to get a high quality scans. they also didn’t want to post this that low qua!
This makes the most sense. Thank you for clarifying with them.
if we're being technical, any kind of image enhancement (be it upscaling or whatever) always uses AI cause it adds pixels based on what is already there. i just hope nobody went to the artist's socials to give them shit for "using AI" based on this whole misunderstanding
exactly lmao i find this whole thread kinda stupid imo
Im glad to read it for free because i would not pay for AI assisted manga. A lot of panel are so obvious AI assisted, like the pannel in ch1 where yakuza holds a plate. Or when he jerks off MC and there is no arm. A lot of panel with strange hands, some weird faces not weird because of human mistakes.