yall have a fundamental misunderstanding of consent in the comments. do allow me to clarify. sexual consent is four pillared. 1) it must be Informed. he was not informed of her touching him (he thought what she did to him was a dream) and she was not informed of him touching her (she literally said she woke up feeling weird without reason ergo she didnt know it happened) (and no i dont think your personal assumption that just because you would know what happens to you when youre asleep somehow equates to her also knowing. are yall the same people? do yall think all people are the same? do yall think all sleep is equal? lets ponder with whimsy in our hearts. powered by all available brain cells in the room). 2) consent must be Explicitly Given. which is saying outloud i want this or writing it on a piece of paper. literally any mode of convey will ball. this happened only once at the very end (when she said i want this and grabbed his cock - correct). before that she was asleep when he jumped her and he was asleep when she jumped him. aurkay? you can say nada that you mean when youre asleep. 3) consent must be Enthusiastic. enthusiasm is most evident in the lack thereof. for example: girlfriends and wives often feel obligated to perform sexual activity because its “their (marital) duty”. so despite the propaganda of abundant pornography with an agenda, no you cannot show enthusiasm when youre asleep. your brain is not even on, there is no proper assessment of risk and reward. please be serious. and most importantly, 4) consent must always, without fail, be Reversible. if you cannot say no then saying yes holds absolutely ZERO weight. for example: if you are ‘persuaded’ and ‘convinced’ into saying yes after saying no then thats coercion. he could not have even said no (half asleep) and neither could she (completely asleep). sure we know now that they would have said yes - ah but they didnt. how can you reverse a decision you have never made? 5) i do acknowledge that the waters muddy in kink. thats why safeguards must exist in order to temporarily bypass these pillars. for example: safewords, clear boundaries (in discussion of kinks before practice, parties outline plays that are most often categorised in the colour system: red for no go/yellow for only in certain ways or only for a set period of time/green for totally good) and practice. it takes trust to lay still like youre sleeping and allow another person to touch you as they please. and that type of trust takes time to solidify. without these safeguards, where power is properly redistributed to ensure autonomy, its just rape. so in conclusion: yes they raped each other. it is possible for people to be both victims and perpetrators. and i dont think that saying that it is rape (because it violated all four tenets of consent they way they violated each other) is somehow unproductive. there is a 1:1 ratio between fiction and reality. if you cannot recognise rape in text, how will you recognise it in motion?
yall have a fundamental misunderstanding of consent in the comments. do allow me to clarify. sexual consent is four pillared.
1) it must be Informed. he was not informed of her touching him (he thought what she did to him was a dream) and she was not informed of him touching her (she literally said she woke up feeling weird without reason ergo she didnt know it happened) (and no i dont think your personal assumption that just because you would know what happens to you when youre asleep somehow equates to her also knowing. are yall the same people? do yall think all people are the same? do yall think all sleep is equal? lets ponder with whimsy in our hearts. powered by all available brain cells in the room).
2) consent must be Explicitly Given. which is saying outloud i want this or writing it on a piece of paper. literally any mode of convey will ball. this happened only once at the very end (when she said i want this and grabbed his cock - correct). before that she was asleep when he jumped her and he was asleep when she jumped him. aurkay? you can say nada that you mean when youre asleep.
3) consent must be Enthusiastic. enthusiasm is most evident in the lack thereof. for example: girlfriends and wives often feel obligated to perform sexual activity because its “their (marital) duty”. so despite the propaganda of abundant pornography with an agenda, no you cannot show enthusiasm when youre asleep. your brain is not even on, there is no proper assessment of risk and reward. please be serious.
and most importantly, 4) consent must always, without fail, be Reversible. if you cannot say no then saying yes holds absolutely ZERO weight. for example: if you are ‘persuaded’ and ‘convinced’ into saying yes after saying no then thats coercion. he could not have even said no (half asleep) and neither could she (completely asleep). sure we know now that they would have said yes - ah but they didnt. how can you reverse a decision you have never made?
5) i do acknowledge that the waters muddy in kink. thats why safeguards must exist in order to temporarily bypass these pillars. for example: safewords, clear boundaries (in discussion of kinks before practice, parties outline plays that are most often categorised in the colour system: red for no go/yellow for only in certain ways or only for a set period of time/green for totally good) and practice. it takes trust to lay still like youre sleeping and allow another person to touch you as they please. and that type of trust takes time to solidify. without these safeguards, where power is properly redistributed to ensure autonomy, its just rape.
so in conclusion: yes they raped each other. it is possible for people to be both victims and perpetrators. and i dont think that saying that it is rape (because it violated all four tenets of consent they way they violated each other) is somehow unproductive. there is a 1:1 ratio between fiction and reality. if you cannot recognise rape in text, how will you recognise it in motion?