anyway also... I don't think it's weird that people are uncomfortable by this kind of con...

as someone who dont consume shota/loli medias i feel like seeing this discourse happen again and again under this manga comment section is so tiring to look at, the antis are usually here screaming to everyone that theyre pedophiles and they all deserve to die, is not doing anything for any csa victims at all, and the shota/loli media consumers usually do say some fked up shit too probably coming from anger that they have to be told to die over and over again, nobody is going to change their prefrence/opinion on anything to the other side because they refuse to hear any other opinions

i feel like ur takes and points is valid and it make sense from my pov as someone who doesnt consume them, i do believe its each to their own that people can differentiate fiction and reality, while yes maybe SOMEtimes its the pedophiles that search for shota/loli medias to get off on, not the other way where everyone puts it as if mangas like this will make someone turn into a pedophile, discourse like this is always tiring because its always black and white and its a "you have to pick a side" thing because the two sides just refuse to hear eachother out.

and tbh for all the antis and people that are always complaining because they're disturbed, guys "DNI" works two ways, you cant expect to not get attacked/interacted by everyone u hate, when you litreally enter the space where its filled with everyone you hate, its like you enter a room with a sign that this room is full of bugs while you hate bugs, then you complain why the hell did you have to enter a room filled with bugs. Nobody is going to change their mind that suddenly they dont want to read this stuff because you called them a "pedophile" its litreally a dead end and its better to just actually donate or help to real csa victims/organizations if youre really worried abt the kids in REAL life. and protect ur own peace..to the both sides...

It IS tiring... they're just going in circles all the time... There used to be actual comment campers (like the same 5 or so people) that sent people rape/death threats on here consistently.

I tend to sympathize with the loli/shotacons more because everybody usually attacks them unprovoked. This comment section is a very good example of that. I've never seen one of them bringing this stuff up in any unrelated place. They're certainly much smaller in number.

the only real "fault" of this manga is making 'antis' uncomfortable... in which case they should just stop reading and thinking about it, because that's the sane, mature thing to do. I think they justify this obsession as a morality concern, but their threats and attitudes are more immoral than anything in this manga. Fbi tip lines for reporting csam have been flooded with reports about fictional stories and it has become an actual problem that is actively hurting victims waiting to be rescued. I would bet a lot that these are the same kinds of people complaining under here lmao. It's a cesspit.

mhm i seen it alot too, i personally work to help csa victims heal irl and im too genuinely is confused as why is this still even a debate till now, im sure everyone and i mean EVERYONE hates pedophiles irl that hurts children and if they see/watch a case that is including children getting hurt, im sure the shota/lolicons would react the same way as the antis and everyone else, that is the feeling of the need or want to protect children too. and if there are some disturbing people who exists and is saying heinous stuff about kids/have a lack of emphaty torwards irl children then thats another thing.

its pretty disturbing too on how most of the antis is very aggresive + vulgar on how they all pretty much say all of the insults, if only everyone would just stop saying things as "oh okay pedophile, you should go back to jerking off to kids-" and sort, what children is being comforted/helped with all of these sentences?? i couldnt help but feel like im disgusted with the supossed people that "cares" about kids, so i get ur point on somehow feeling like you "sympethatize" torwards the other side more

while i too on the other hand find no appeal in medias like sort, i feel like everyone who feels the same way as me should just try to understand/trust that people who say they can differentiate fiction and reality to some degree and its as easy as ignoring/not interacting w medias like sort, and tbh if theyre confused they should just maybe ask/have a convo calmly w some people who do consume medias like this, nobody is going to explain or hear u out if u just suddenly go and scream out "ahh! ure the weirdest person on earth and i hate you!" and all and all, i mostly agree on ur points, so im pretty glad to have an understanding in ur part, despite the little differences in some of the opinions !

thank you both of you!

it's really frustrasting when these people assume something bad and horrible just for what you like in fiction, and that frustration becomes anger because we are tired of this constant harrasment

it's okay to dislike things and avoid them at all cost, there are some stuff I hate in real life that I don't mind when I know is something happening in fiction, because I know is not real.

there are horrible things happening in real life right now, and when you have little spare time for enjoying the things you like that don't affect anybody, then these people come and say horrible stuff to you??? it's really frustrating, we are tired of these puriteens and weird moral complex they have...it's clear they don't care about real people

naur. i WILL call these people pedophiles because legit some people replied to me saying that the 10 year old CHILD groomed the 17 year old like ???

the biggest difference between pedophilia and rape is that rape is physical, whereas pedophilia doesnt have to be physical. pedophiles are termed as people who consume child pornography, and child sexual material. or engage in child sexual abuse. this is classified as child sexual material as its endorsing relationships between a 10 year old BABY and an almost-adult.

so therefore, the people reading and enjoying this repulsive shit ARE indeed pedophiles. rapists hate being called rapists. but then they go and rape people. but they wont call themselves rapists.

same with pedophiles. these people will enjoy shotacon and lolicon, and then when someone calls them a pedophile, theyll get mad and upset about it.

you cannot go and say that these people will go and protect children in the future because they are actively contributing in the manufacture of child fetish content, which harms children and breeds even more pedophiles. these vile creatures are the reason why this disgusting shit is being normalized to the point where its getting an ANIME adaptation. that just shows the amount of damage caused by these people. and if ur failing to see that, then im sorry to say but your ignorant as hellll.

the reason why im ranting under these pedophiles' disgusting comments is because of the rage i feel for them endorsing such vile shit. the fact that the only argument they have is that 'its fictional' just shows how corrupt their mindset is.

no shit sherlock nobody wants to be called a pedophile. but id rather be a crazy 'deranged' person than a pedophile who is contributing to child sexual abuse.

i feel like of course everyone is gonna answer that "its fictional" because at the end of the day, it is fictional, i noticed you do read sa in your medias and i do too, but you do not go around thinking of wanting to get sa'd or you want to sa people in real life, do you? well if you do, that's an mental illness, same thing with the "pedophiles" youre referring too, it is an mental illness for these "pedophiles" to get turned on by children in REAL LIFE, but the difference is that they consume FICTIONAL materials hence they get interested in the FICTIONAL aspect of them, its not hard to understand really

you can tolerate sa in medias >> why? because its not real and nobody is being hurt in real life >> because its fictional

we all CANT tolerate sa in real life >> why? because theres an victim that has to life their life every single day hurting because of that and not only a few episodes on fictional media like manhwas and mangas and sort >> because the victim has feelings >> because it happened in real life and humans feel things

the conclusion here is that, no matter how much you preach that people u dont know is an pedophile, no matter how many times u scream into the void that this is cp material, NO matter how many times you tell people to kill themself :

1. theres no REAL life victims that are being hurt because the "victim" doesnt have feelings, thoughts, or the capability to "live" with trauma, because theyre FICTIONAL.
2. you say this is contributing to csa but do you have the proof that it is because of THIS genre of medias or is it because of an mental illness that made people like hurt children in REAL LIFE
3. you can call me ignorant but im sure i do more for the csa victims irl than you telling people with real life feelings to kill themself for a fictional character that wont even thank you for "defending" them

i dont know if youre just a bit slow or your acting that way on purpose. nowhere did i tell someone to kill themselves lmfao if youre gonna talk shit atleast make it credible.

and for a fact, i do not read stories that involve explicit SA. if i do, i drop them after the rape scenes occur because I will NEVER even read such filthy shit. please dont lump me in with those kind of people.

also, i dont get why u keep parroting the same thing. fictional rape is completely different because it is a projection of an irl kink that many people have—which is CNC (consensual non-consent). people consume that stuff to get off to THAT kink. and for those people who actually enjoy the rape, theyre scum too.

pedophilia is different because, as I said before, the literal DEFINITION of a pedophile is a person consuming CP/child sexual material/sexual material involving minors/performing child sexual abuse. that is literally what a pedophile is. aint no way ur actually defending these people for what they are. theyre pedophiles, by textbook definition and moral as well as legal standards too lmao.

the mental illness factor does definitely contribute to the surge in pedophiles. but it is quite literally a known fact (and common sense) that this is fetish content made for people who enjoy watching minors engage in non-consensual activities and relationships with adults (because children cant consent). ALL of the people reading this are pedophiles by definition. what ur referring to is people who actively sexually abuse children. although that may be a smaller proportion of consumers for this particular media, you cannot just discard the others because the others are pedophiles too, just not physically active about it. they still get turned on by imaginary children and works of fiction, they still fantasize about relationships between grown men and little boys.


also its very bold and pretentious of you to assume you do more for children just because you poured out some word vomit. maybe next time actually shut the fuck up if you dont know the other person personally lmfao. i sure as hell am sure ive done a shit ton of work for charities, adoption and child welfare centres.

oh and also the last sentence u said really showed what kind of person u are lmao.

i dont do this shit to get thanked for. i do this so that pedophiles and creeps stay the fuck away from children—period. if u think the only reason i'd defend a notion is to get thanked for it, then youre definitely projecting. im not an asshole to expect something in return, a thanks or an apology, unlike you. yall genuinely retarded bro

Exactly

Thye consume pedophelic content to satisfy their pedophelic tendencies and behaviours.
If they didn't feel called out, they won't get mad at anti pedo comments

Literally
As if kind hearted and anti pedos people don't exist in real life

alright, you feel attacked cus you feel the need to defend urself from what you read fictionally and you feel like your hypocritical self is not credible to talk about this matter, "the literal DEFINITION of a pedophile is a person consuming CP/child sexual material/sexual material involving minors/performing child sexual abuse. that is literally what a pedophile is." once again, what real children is being mentioned in this manga? its proof you yourself cannot draw the line between reality and fictional, all this "word vomit" is you once again finding reasons to somehow tie this to reality that didnt exist where people who read shota oni is out here sa ing children in real life to act out their anime fantasy, when u dont know these people irl too, maybe for once take ur own advice to "actually shut the fuck up if you dont know the other person personally lmfao." isnt that what uve been doing all this time? not knowing anything about anyone yet you can call someone an pedophile despite some people explaining that they can draw the line on whats fictional and whats not? well maybe you cant and, thats a you problem.

well thats good for you if you do ur "charity, adoption, and welfare centres visits" but an advice, before u work with children, please grow up a little more to find the capacity to learn some anger management skill, cus someone here cant stop spewing insults when agitated, you dont want to look embarassing when u sound more childish than the kids you work with, do you? have a great day and this discussion ends here

also to jieun, idk why youre here when all u do is give unecesarry inputs, but hey, since u both think telling people to killthemself and saying the r slur is helping kids, you both do you am i right? maybe you both are slow on purpose i dont know ^^

its insane how u cant comprehend that child sexual material involves animated clips, books and comics lmao. a 5 year old would be able to differentiate between that. oh wait. i shouldnt mention kids around you.

its honestly funny how stupid you sound rn and you know it. and yes you are spewing word vomit because apparently your cortex has shrunk to the size of a small turd on the side of the road. imagine not being able to comprehend that anyone consuming ANY type of CSM whether it be real, animated, drawn or written, is a pedophile. i mean being that dense takes guts, you know. kudos to you!

also, do the guardians of the CSA victims u work with know about you defending such people? hmm. i wonder if theyd be okay with it since its just 'fictional' and not 'harmful at all'.

and about the anger management thing, I think its actually less normal to NOT get angry about people consuming child sexual content. it actually concerns me that youre so comfortable with people reading that shit while you work with CSA victims.

its honestly so embarrassing for you and im here for it. unlike you, i dont blatantly defend pedophiles while continuing to 'work' with CSA victims acting like im some moral god, all while im defending the filthiest people on planet earth.

hope u heal from this babes! xx

To @woorilings who is a pedo and rape enabler. I never wished you death corny ass.
And what is worse, calling pedos and rapists and their enablers retarded, or consuming and enjoying pedo and rape content.
Gtfo.
And you're retarded. Also pedos and their apologists deserve worse than death. You deserve to get used for chemical experiments instead of animals

girl preach. this is a breeding ground for these filthy bacterias. eradicate them all!

i was hoping otherwise but these people do is get angry and insult and completely ignore any valid argument or show any signs of knowing how conversing works. you shouldnt entertain people who do nothing but hurl insults. youll never get through to them with logic so i wouldnt worry about it. anyone who cant stay civil isnt worth talking to.

you two have strange things going on in your brains and its sad that you think you are a normal or well adjusted people. i think you could benefit from help about those concerning thoughts.

girl i have no interest in interacting with a pedophile. stay tf away from me

You're right. Those folks are obviously pedos.
The irony to manipulate us for rightfully getting angry at pedophelia.
It is like those bigots like racists and seixsts and genocide enablers who act rational at empathetic people who preach and practise justice.
If people are anti fascism and predators online, they are too off line

They don't understand that you can be kind and helpful online and off line by spreading awareness.
I am glad that I have met radical feminists off line when I was a kid in order to be socially aware.
This kind of media brainwashes people.