So you’re admitting that for you, enjoyment matters more than the story actually making sense. That’s fine, but don't confuse personal preference with narrative quality. Writing has objective standards just like art does. If a character is violated and then enters a happy relationship with their abuser- whether it takes 5 or 80 chapters-that is a fundamental break in character logic. You can't overcome that specific trauma to form a romance without the writing becoming objectively incoherent. If you need to ignore human psychology and the weight of a crime just to enjoy a happy ending, then you’re proving my point: the trauma was just used as cheap, pornographic bait. Enjoy the fluff, but it’s still bad writing.
Calling out bad writing isn’t hating it’s having a standard. You say we don’t know how it’ll end, but the author is already posting fluff art of them as a happy, lovey-dovey couple on Twitter. That literally proves my point: the author is using a life-altering crime as a shock-value hook while already marketing the cute ending on the side. When the social media marketing contradicts the weight of the actual plot, that is a narrative failure. I'm not hating on the tropes, I’m pointing out that the author is trying to have their cake and eat it too by using trauma for clicks and then pretending it never happened for the fans. If you have to ignore the author's own spoilers to make the logic work, that’s on you.
Again, I seem to be repeating myself: stories are made for different purposes. If you think this story was created with the intent of being the next moby dick then be ffr
Critique it based on the intent of the author not on some "objective" standard it was never trying to achieve in the first place; its just unfair to both the story and to people who have tastes like mine, who get less and less stories of these sorts as time goes by because of critiquers like u who insinuate our fav authors are morally bankrupt profit vampires and that these stories "should" be a certain way when the markets its intended for requests anything but.
you're wasting your time hun just let them be it's not worth it (￣∇￣") they won't change their way of thinking either
U right im just so so petty man
Nobody is asking for Moby Dick. I’m asking for a story that respects its own stakes. You’re missing the point: the author is the one who chose to include a life-shattering crime. Once they put that on the page, the intent of the story changes. You can’t use sexual assault to be edgy and then hide behind it’s just a fun romance when people point out that the aftermath makes no sense. That’s not a taste issue; it’s a narrative shortcut. And I never called the author a moral vampire… I called them a lazy writer. If critiques about basic logic are enough to make this genre disappear, then maybe the genre’s only foundation was shock value to begin with. You’re free to enjoy it, but demanding that everyone else stop noticing the broken logic just to protect your taste is what’s actually unfair. Enjoy your story, we’re clearly done here.
The same reason people slow down to look at a car crash lol I’m just here to see how much further the logic can flip before the inevitable explosion. Besides, someone has to keep the “objective standards light on” *wink wink* while everyone else is gaslighting themselves with Twitter fluff. Safe travels on your dip! ;)
Lmaoo how am i supposed to take you guys seriously hahh sure safe travels on your hypocrite trip too i guess
same lmao but it is what it is
Hypocrite? Hard to be one when my only standard is make the plot make sense, and I'm sticking to it. But hey, if calling me names helps the Wattpad logic go down easier, go for it. Enjoy the car crash
If the market its made for clearly doesn't want what you are "critiquing" to be changed, then is it a matter of lazy writing or maybe you're just not the target demographic? and instead of policing what clearly isnt made for you and ruining it for the people its made for, maybe stop reading and go back to what you deem to be appropriate: full on dark rape or fluffy puppy green MLs?
Leave this safe space alone. God forbid so many of us need it.
It’s not about choosing between extreme trauma or puppy fluff, it’s about wanting a story that is actually well-written. I’m not looking for a documentary, I’m looking for a plot that doesn't trip over its own feet. Also, calling this a safe space that’s being ruined is laughable. The BL world is literally famous for and flooded with badly written stories that use assault as a plot device only to force a happy ending. That is the majority of the market, not a rare sanctuary. You’re not protecting a safe space, you’re just defending the status quo of lazy writing because you don’t like it when someone points out the cracks in the logic. If my critique is enough to ruin your experience, that says more about the quality of the story than it does about me. Enjoy the echo chamber bestie ;)
Thats because ur critique which is just "rape in fiction needs to be x y z to show character would be a b c" would make it less enjoyable if it was a universally applied standard. Also; your critique doesn't ruin the experience, but its comment like urs that are precisely why the author is affected, which sours the experience. Seriously. How is it not common sense that what the market wants isnt the checklist for a "good objective story", nor are we reading yaoi for that. HOW??
If an author is affected by a basic critique of their narrative logic, that’s on them, not the reader. Expecting a story to follow its own internal rules isn't a checklist, it’s just the bare minimum for storytelling. The idea that this standard would ruin fiction is hilarious, considering the BL market is already drowning in identical, poorly written plots that use assault as a cheap trope. You aren't defending a unique safe space, you’re defending the most overused, lazy cliché in the genre. If the only way you can enjoy a story is by ensuring no one points out its massive plot holes, then you don't want a story, you want a vacuum. Authors aren't victims for being told their plot doesn't make sense, and readers aren't policing just because they have a memory longer than a goldfish. Enjoy whatever you want, but stop pretending that what the market wants is an excuse for bad writing *shrug*
I want to be clear: I condemn all personal attacks and the harassment of authors. However, we must distinguish between harassment and valid critique. Critique isn't harassment, and authors need to hear the truth: using sexual assault as porn for profit is a choice that deserves pushback. I don't mind dark horror, but I hate when authors romanticize rape and then hide behind idiotic excuses about „healing”. There is no both sides here - one is a criminal, the other is a victim. To suggest that such a story is about „becoming a better person” is total bullshit. That act destroys every chance of a normal relationship forever. Portraying it as a journey toward a 'cute' romance is twisted, and there’s no coming back from that.