sorry for the rant, english is not my first lmguange
I don’t know it would be like if some homeless woman fell out infront of my husband and he brought her home and started fucking her and got mad at me for being mad about it. “C’mon she has no house, think of your privilege cause you have one!” I can’t tell you legally how many people I’d kill but just know them bitches be dead as fuck
It's not having a home though, neither is it just homeless. This is way more severe. Rashta is entirely powerless, a homeless person if lucky could land a job or make it out of homelessness, rashta will never make it out of slavery no matter how hard she tries. Unless she has a powerful rich man. As for navier, she is proven to be a strong and intelligent woman who was raised for strategic thinking and born to be a ruler. If she so pleased, she could pivot to another option and she has a decent safety net. Rashta does not. This is more like if someone with no arms no limbs no eyes no ears and no mouth needed your husband to gain normal bodily function and autonomy, and you refuse because you just wove him soooo much!
Not to mention it would be your husbands fault because what privilege does a homeless person have to refuse? He could assault her and she wouldn't be able to do anything because who would believe and fight for a homeless nobody?
The analogy basically means no one has a justifiable reason to hurt another person no matter what they are lacking. If I’m lacking food, I can’t then go steal food from someone because I am hungry. No one is talking about somebody who’s been assaulted. We’re talking about somebody who carried on a relationship in a home with another women’s wife they willingly followed. You’re adding stuff to the story. Tell me which chapter she was stolen, raped and beaten by this man cause I missed it. She followed him like a dumb puppy. One person is not at fault for th breakdown of a relationship. The person fucking the man is wrong, the husband is wrong and on another level whatever the husband is not getting in his relationship that he needs where he would go out and cheat would make his wife wrong as well. Everyone deserves to be happy but your happiness can’t be bought on the of anothers. That’s just basic shit but not something that can’t really be taught.
Ooo if we could edit comments that might make sense but like we can’t be saying oh poor her she do it to survive. But I guess you can. (づ￣ ³￣)づ
Rashta WAS assaulted. She was underage and a slave. That's assault because of the power imbalance. And there is a justifiable reason depending once again on power differencces. I say homeless people can steal from big corporations, not fellow struggling people, because it's the job of the people in power to make a system that means that homeless people find homes and don't end up homeless in the first place. If people in power refuse to do that, (and yes they fucking can incase youre wondering) you can't get mad at the people for rebelling.
Okay the fact that you're willing to blame the wife just proves you're male centered and a massive bird, + battling with internalised misogyny. I'm not fighting a dumbass it genuinely makes me sad seeing women be misogynistic because you truly think a man in the pinnacle of the world? You can go into detail about how the mistress and wife are at fault but for the man it's just "hes bad" and that's it? Wooooowwww lololol. I pray you're born as a culmination of all the women you've undoubtedly shamed in your next life so you can understand that your words are a widespread belief that have real life problems. You can't be a woman and hate women in a woman hating world.
I’m an equal opportunity people hater. I mean, if I cheat on my husband, it would be his fault for not giving me what I need in the relationship that I asked for and my fault for not terminating the relationship before cheating and it would be the person I cheated on him‘s fault if they knew I was married. But you have called me a dumbass. I shall bow out. That is my queue. But it was nice having a conversation with somebody smart.
Thats a misogynistic take, it's entirely the cheaters fault plus it was a culmination of things you said like saying her losing her spot as a husband erased her mary sueness, and your insane hatred of rashta and the fact you can't consider her situation. You sound idk. Sorry I was really rude but come on man.
I didn't expect this to be a debate but, what I wanted to say is that in the story itself, the men always get no repercussions at all. Yes, Rashta manipulates and does bad things, but that's how she does to survive, growing up she didn't have any other choice but that. My point was that her desperation comes from a system that gave her zero rights or safety as a slave and a woman. That context matters when analyzing a character. She still made choices that hurt Navier, and that's wrong. My whole point was that the story pits two women against each other while Sovieshu - who actually orchestrated everything - walks away the lightest. So I do agree with swahbuckler. That's all.
I agree, her ending is unnecessary. She did all that out of desperation because she had no choice, he did all that just cuz he felt like it. So I dont get how his ending is so light and she got such a heavy sentence. This story revolves heavily around men. Naviers happy ending is a powerful man liking her, while rashtas bad ending is powerful men disliking her. I don't like it
Yeah! It would be much better if navier could be independent and stand up on her own without needing her husband or whatever. And rashta and navier could realize that they don't need to fight each other, because their comoon enemy is the system and the patriarchy.
After maturing and developing my frontal lobe, I just realized that this story is very male centered. I mean we can assume that in their era, patriarchy is very strong, even though Navier is seen as this strong empress, she's still at the mercy of the men of her life; the moment Sovieshu decides to dissolve their marriage, her only path to maintaining power is to immediately pivot to another monarch of equal rank. This inequality is even more harsher for Rashta, or "Trashta" as people call her (I'm guilty as well, sorry) who we perceived as the villain, is actually a product of her desperate need for survival in a world that offers her no legal rights or social safety net, as a slave and a woman. As a former slave, Rashta didn't have the privilage Navier had and her will to survive or desperation leads her to manipulate and etc. Ultimately, the story focuses heavily between the two women, while Sovieshu (the true villain) didn't suffer the way poor Rashta did.