What you're saying kinda makes it worse? Like wdym you wanna enjoy what we can't have in reality and it's a relationship between a 15 and his teacher ?? I don't think i wanna see that or would ever enjoy that in reality?? And it's really not that sweet if you think about how they started, i tried rewatching the anime a while ago and tbh kousuke did act like a predator, kissing him first, leading him on at the start till bro started to be like "oh yeah i like my teacher"
Like, you can like it, but you can't go on defending it that it's not problematic, it's not bad to recognize that you watch or read weird shit (i mean if you look at what i read, you'll see i do, too)
There's no defending pedophilia just because it's fiction, and what you said just makes it worse, like i wouldn't read a story that has r*pe for example because i want that in reality but can't have it??
It's not wrong that this is a guilty pleasure. This should actually stay a guilty pleasure. Regardless of fictionality or not this should not be seen as okay or normal. Just like horror and gore aren't seen as normal things to be entertained by, this is the same.
Just because we aren't bad people by reading this because technically in this manga nothing illegal was actually being done, (nasty age of consent technicality) it is still immoral and shouldn't be seen as anything but.
On god these antis are so annoying this manga has been going on for literally forever and they flock back to it EVERY SINGLE TIME dont like dont read kids, its that simple. and seeing how they come back every single update like... yall obviously like it too, so this "enjoy the blowjob but reflect on it" mentality is so annoying and fake
I know right? Can't stand these moralists. Like if this bothers them so much why don't you go after the criminals in real life. They get triggered every time they're called out
Ok no ,i apoligize. I think i havent made clear what i was trying to say.
1. I didn't meant that whoever read this, is enjoying pedophilia. And we dont phantasize about stuff like that, because we cant have that in real life. Were not reading this to compensate any hidden desires. But many teenagers once had a crush on an older person. That is kinda normal. As long as it stays legal.
Thats what many people can relate to.
But this or any similar manga should not be interpreted in whats right or wrong or just ok to do.
2. Yes, this manga contains pedophilia and grooming. Thats not ok. But this is a fictional work. You can write or protest all you want. Its already out. And its finished. No matter how many chapters will follow, the pedophilia happened and it wont change.
And what will that do to Reality? I dont think much.
Please spend you energy on things that happens to Real people and raise your voice to fight real problems.
Banning this wont solve the problems real people have.
I hope noone got hurt, by what im trying to say. I despise pedophilia as much as most of you. For me its the worst thing a human can do. But this is just fictional. I rather comment on things that happened to real people to show empathy or ask for justice than to hate comment mangas like these.
And sorry for my Bad englisch ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Oh yeah idk if I came off as rude. I mean im not speaking down on anyones morals, obviously Im reading it too. I js felt like too many ppl were seeing this as either good or bad. It's fine that this manga has its problems and we should keep it in the back of our minds. But fictionality doesn't change the morality of this manga nor the moral standings of the ppl reading it (unless they freaks like that..). Idk if I was specific I wanted to be concise.
Empathy is a good trait to have even in fictional context, but people acting like they're on a moral high ground js because they condemn it is weird. (Idk if I came across like that in my first comment but mb)
I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but why is saying that something that has pedophilia a bad thing? It's just that we say it's weird because it's really weird, reading it certainly doesn't make you a pedophile but not even recognizing that it's wrong and defending it is totally wrong, and yeah if you read weird shit it's really not bad to say it's weird bro, one pf my fav manhwas my guy sa's the other guy's shitty father and films it to blackmail him to make sure he doesn't bother the ml, and that shit was weird af but i still reread it because aside from that, it was a wild manhwa with a good plot,
The same how people like this story even tho it's weird af and their relationship is a total crime
Because yall won't shut up with your "it's wrong". We all know a 32 year old dating a 16 year old is bad, like okay, let us move on now.
Because it's really wrong? It's not bad to say something is wrong when it is wrong, and just because the manga has been there for long doesn't mean people can't hate on it?
Bro you like it, it's okay, but it's absolutely problematic and obviously will have haters?? I'd be more concerned if people didn't talk about how problematic it is
WE ALL KNOW ITS WRONG. You dont need to say it for the umpteenth time for us to know that. People can hate on anything, but hating on this doesn't solve anything, and didnt save any victim in any way, shape, or form whatsoever. It's performative as fuck. It's just saying "Oh look at this problematic thing! I dont approve of it!" Like okay? Yall want a cookie or sum? And its the same bullshit every fucking time. We get it. We are tired of hearing the same crap over and over again when we are just trying to enjoy a manga. Yall are essentially invading a problematic space and crying that there is problematic media in it, like... grow tf up. Instead of getting mad at fictional mangas go and help actual victims, this is honestly so sad to witness bye
Dude, we do also hate actual pedophiles?? And it's really not a big deal to express your hatred for the act in fiction, you just decided that all these people are okay with pedophiles in real life just from a comment?? You're the one that needs to grow up and respect that not because you like something other people have to like it too or that it won't get hate, people can comment and say it's wrong just like you can yap about how pedophilia in fiction is okay to read.
You're not the only one with an opinion on the planet and you don't get to judge what other people do in their life other than mangago, which btw doesn't even take a minute of your time to comment, like what do you want us to do? Go to prison and beat up the pedos there?? I think everyone tries their best for the people they know that are victims, and even if they don't, you don't get to judge anyone for their personal life that you know nothing about??
Jesus christ are you that dense? And yeah all that time most of yall here yapping tryna defend some pixels COULDVE been spent helping actual victims instead of this performative crap yall doing to protect pixelated kids. Which helps absolutely nobody, btw, except making yall feel better about yourselves, and morally superior, when yall arent. Nobody asking you to go beat up pedos lmfao, what? Im just wondering why and how you think continuously shitting on something that hurts literally no one, contributes anything to anybody. Being performative just to perform atp lmao. Anyways end of convo I'm tired of going in circles with you.
You Antis are genuinely cancerous to fandoms just look what your fellow "its wrong so we should hate on it" crowd did to the mangaka of "Go for it, Nakamura!"
https://x.com/i/status/2043176854639567090
Genuinely tired of you stupid fucks invading problematic spaces you didn't have to enter and ruining it for everyone else. Go fuck yourselves.
What fiction and reality? There's a limit to how deep you go in fiction. People with mindset like you is why even books like Lolita got romantised not only by publishers but also a large number of audience. It's another thing that characters are vampire or super matured mentally.
That was a regular high schooler who had some issues and a over 25 year old dude took advantage of his lack of maturity. If you need this in a fiction "cause you can't do this in reality", you need a self check that if you like the story or the anime faces?
What with all that sudden hate?
People seriously cant distinguish between fiction and Reality.
Yes, this is wrong. The age gap is to big, and this is grooming. In Reality.
This is purely fiction.
Fiction was made so we could enjoy what we could never do in real life. Its part of the mind, to separate ourselves from Reality.
You all enjoy action, fantasy, gore, horror, thriller, romance and so on. Whrn the antagonist dies after being defeated after a long and hard fight.
If the man falls in love with a pure hearted, not so pretty but always nice and selfless heroine. When the poor guy gets invited into a world full of magic.
If this were wrong, you should hate every fictional work out there.
Not everyone is or becomes pedophile reading this.
Same as not every horror loving person dreams of murder, blood and violence.
And every fictional work can be interpreted wrong. The hero doesnt always win. The good guy us not always right and righterous. The villain is not always the real evil.
All this is about enjoying a sweet FICTIONAL love Story. Nothing more, nothing less.
Focus your woke opinions somewhere else. In real life. Where its about real persons and problems that really matter and could change something.