i love this story. So for people who dont, just dont read. Your moral codes are yours. Min...

jim, read my replies on the other comment we both replied to

It's your turn to read that now. (●'◡'●)ﾉ

i can’t reply to u on that comment because ivan blocked me but,

first off, i never said that ur a lolicon nor did i say u watch cp. i never said that this manga is inherently pedophiliac, i just explained that it encourages the behaviour of it.

i honestly cba to go into depth with this anymore because ur just not understanding it. the problem is that it normalises children being in relationships with adults (and older one is ONE year away from being an adult so don’t even come at me). go research sociology.

if it was 13 year old x 18 year old suddenly it wouldnt be okay, but 12 year old x 17 year old is fine?

also the wikipedia page of pedophilia literally states that, “Pedophilic disorder is defined as a pattern of pedophilic arousal accompanied by either subjective distress or interpersonal difficulty, or having acted on that arousal. The DSM-5 reques that a person must be at least 16 years old, and at least five years older than the prepubescent child or children they are aroused by, for the attraction to be diagnosed as pedophilic disorder.”. soooo….seems like this manga falls under that.

also how tf is this manga not morally wrong? its a 12 year old boy - not even a teenager, paired with a borderline adult. the maturity gap is fucking INSANE. and honestly i think ur weird asf for putting the law before morality. if the law was that adults can legally rape children, would u still abide by it bc “it’s the law”?

also super lovers is disgusting as well

i understand you very well. And no, this manga doesn't fall under that, because the 17-year-old is not sexually attracted to the 12-year-old and the first symptom of this disorder is to feel sexual attraction to a prepubescent child. So, this manga absolutely doesn't fall under that. I am stating facts here. i am quite educated to know a bit about sociology, though its not my subject of interest. And yes, 17 x 12 is okay. since both are minors. It doesn't matter if he will turn 18 in a few chapters, or after many chapters; until he is 17, he is still a minor (not a 'borderline adult', there is no word as such that, it's either a minor, or an adult). And this manga is not morally wrong, because it doesn't promote any of those things you just stated. The plot of this manga is "for the seme to grow up faster and protect the person he loves." It's pure romance, and a kid falling in love with someone older than them is not wrong. The uke has no authority over what the seme thinks, nor does he promote it in an immoral way. So, this is a normal romance manga, shounen-ai on that. It doesn't promote anything, unless you put an ugly meaning to it. And I am just stating facts here, pure facts with no personal opinion to it. So, instead of wasting time writing such a long paragraph, why dont we both take a break and read what we like, dont read what we dont like. Isn't that simple?


To answer your last question. The law doesn't state anything heinous as that, nor will it ever, so dont twist the words of law to satisfy your moral values or thinking. I dont care if you think I am weird, but I do believe the law comes before morality. If the world ran on the emotions and moral values of each individual, it wouldn't be so good-looking anymore.

I guess we are very opposite, huh? So let's end this paragraph writing now. Believe me, everything I have said so far is pure facts. I shared no personal opinion here except the fact that I liked this manga and will support it. I don't intend to disrespect you, though you surely intend to do it to me. It doesn't matter. I know I am weird, but I am not wrong. Let's end this here because your main assumption is completely wrong. This manga doesn't promote paedophilia in any way. The disorder requires sexual attraction from the so-called adult(who is in fact a minor here), and Yuni doesn't show any attraction in immoral terms to Tsubaki. It's the opposite. Let's talk when such a thing happens.

And you do know that underage reading R-rated yaoi is legally wrong?

What’s wrong with this segu1m1 person? Why is he/she even here in the first place? LOLLLLL.

Dude, if you’re lonely with your life, dont spread it.

Keep your opinions to yourself since thats the only thing you’re entitled.

because i saw the title of this manga while scrolling through mangago, and was shocked bc it says shota, which i associate with ‘shotacon’. i then started reading the comments bc i was so bewildered after reading the description. only to find out most of the people here ARE shotacons

no, all you’ve been saying is that the maturity gap between a 11 year old and a 17 year old is okay just because theyre both minors.
let me repeat myself, would a 12 year old x an 18 year old be okay? no. so why is 11 x 17 okay?

also since ur knowledgeable on sociology, you must’ve learnt a bit about pedophilia and the different ways it gets shaped, one including media.

also, since i know u like super lovers as well - that shit is genuinely repulsive too. this isn’t even a debate about this manga anymore, but the entirety of shotacon in itself.

by the way, do you know what paragraphing is?

and to ur question, yes, i know, but why do YOU out of all people care since you enjoy seeing children with essentially adults?

also, borderline adult just means 1 year below or above 18.

12 x 17 is okay in fiction unless any sexual theme is included. thats why. And again its not pedophilia. And I never said I liked super lovers. I said we are opposite. Me, not finding the manga disgusting, doesn't mean I like it. Again, here both are minors so please change your ignorant thinking that a 17-year-old is an essential adult. They are not. and no word as "borderline adult" exists in legal terms. i know it, if you dont, you should search it. It's simple, dont mix fiction with reality. And I dont really care, though, because it's your choice. But it's legally wrong. You can't preach about moral values when you dont follow essential legal requirements. You are still young, maybe you will understand when you grow up? (not that grown-ups know more, said maybe.) Let's stop here. i have no interest in the debate with an underage person arguing over moral values which are not applicable over this manga neither morally nor legally.

omfg ur genuinely one of the most insufferable, ignorant, and emotionally unintelligent people i’ve ever met. i can’t even be asked to argue with u abt this anymore because u don’t even TRY to understand my points.

do you not see anything wrong with an 11 year old x a 17 year old? do you really not see anything REMOTELY bad? when i was 11 i had absolutely no interest in those older than me, most kids who do have crushes on older people at that age though should NOT have their crush being indulged in by the older person.

i don’t fucking care if the younger one liked the older one first, the older one still encouraged his behaviour by letting him even have a crush!! a kid doesn’t know what’s right or wrong - thats why theres adults with grown brains to tell them. the older one should feel responsible for the younger’s feelings and try to tell the younger one that it’s not okay to be in a relationship with someone much older than u at that age.

the younger kid doesn’t know anything at that age, and most older people know that. the older one is literally taking advantage of the kid by indulging him in the feelings he has. adults should PROTECT kids, not get into romantic relationships with them.

never go near a kid or have children in real life, ever.

Just don't read it if you have so many problems.

yeah i’m not gonna, but i’m also not gonna just sit still when i see comments like this

Go to the court and sue the author, then tell them how illegally and morally bad this manga is, that even if the Japanese government allowed it to be published legally, you can't accept reading this manga from some other country(that too through a pirated site) because it's bad. Better go to her official web page and complain about it. But don't tell them that you read it from a pirated site, which is illegal without paying any money, and then complain about free stuff. Go to the official site. go. Stop this author from 'sitting still'. I will comment on whatever I like reading.

ur saying this stuff as if ur not ALSO reading disgusting shotacon manga on an illegal website, how about u post ur original comment on her official website and say that you read it via pirating?

ur saying all this shit as if i didn’t already make so many logical points on why this type of content is damaging.

can’t believe u care about the law SO much yet u read pedophiliac and pedophiliac-esque media. one of the sole reasons why this manga is allowed to be read anywhere, is bc the mangaka finds a loophole by saying the older one is 17, rather than 18.

although there still are literal ANIMES that u can watch which are genuinely just pedophiles…cough cough boku no pico..cough super lovers….cough hitorijime my hero…

I also buy hard copies and support a lot of authors officially. I follow her on Twitter as well. And no, you are not making any logical statements here, you are just yelling, and being ignorant. If you really thought you were putting logical arguments against me, you are not. If the government allows it, I will read it. So stop yelling like a kid. It's not working, so spread your awareness in unpirated sites if you really want to help. its my choice what I read, not yours. dont divert this topic on me just because you dont have better excuses to put. Calling me a pedo isn't helping this world. And I recommended you to go to her official website because you have complaints with her, not me. In mangago, the golden rule is simple: "Dont mix fiction with reality, and dont read what you like". I didn't make this up.

when did i ever call you a pedophile tf…
also ur still reading on this website soooo. and if you cared to actually read my comments then you would see they do make sense.

ur whole thing with legality is weird. i’ll say it again, if the government made it legal for adults to rape and sexually abuse children whenever they wanted, would you just turn a blind eye because ‘it’s the law’? i’d hope not.

also i’ve said time and time again, the issue isn’t whether it’s fictional or not, the issue lies within how it normalises and legitimatises adults being in relationships with children.

they dont, your comments are filled with "what ifs" and "awareness". Maybe you should read your comments first, then mine again.
And I am saying it again- it does. It's what this story is about(romantic interest is 100 per cent there), and why do you think people read it? To check if it normalises relationships with a child or not? They know what it's about, and they read it. It's not new here. why? because they like it. We don't need to give a reason why we like it. We just do. We all know. You don't need to say it out loud and bring awareness by yelling, "It's weird!" because we all know that. Your addressing the issue here is a waste of time. We read it still because we like it. on this webpage, it's divided into three of people - one, who like this manga, and read this, otherwise knowing it's weird, even if its shota con. second- people like you want to spread "awareness" by calling it disgusting, pedo shit, a failure, and those who like it, pedo(not you, i am talking about others). and 3rd- who dont give a shit about this manga. so, who are you exactly trying to spread the awareness to? who are trying to save?

‘what ifs’ as in hypothetical situations, and i’ve barely done any.

even weirder that u know shotacon is wrong, yet u still try to defend it.

and i want to save the traumatised kid in everyone’s soul here. i want to show them that indulging urself in this form of media will not help them. it will only make them and the society they engulf themselves in worse.

and before u go on about how i’m trying to appear “superior”, is it really that unusual that someone ACTUALLY cares about the well-being of people? is it so strange that half of the reason i’m arguing is to help others?